recommendations apply thermal paste to 603

vitux · 03 July 2013, 20:59

some recommendations on how to apply thermal paste to 603 ppc? the 603 is very small.
extend or dots
thermal adhesive would be better? is effective?

Jope · 03 July 2013, 21:40

Put a dot in the middle, press the heatsink in place, see whether the thermal paste spreads out widely enough, add thermal paste if not.

vitux · 04 July 2013, 00:00

Jope, a good idea
I want to know if a thermal adhesive is also valid

prowler · 04 July 2013, 00:09

Use thermal adhesive only if the heat sink has no other method of fixing it in place, because it will not be as effective as a good quality thermal paste.

vitux · 04 July 2013, 00:14

Thx, he had this doubt

vitux · 05 July 2013, 10:58

I do not understand,
There is a separation between the heatsink and the CPU,
Therefore, not having pressure, pasta does not extend, just a slight touch.

Jope · 05 July 2013, 11:06

Seems like you either need to adjust the heatsink so that it lies flat, or you have to remove all other fasteners and use thermal adhesive.

If the heatsink isn't flat against the thing you want to transfer heat from, the thermal paste will work as an insulator instead of a heat transfer compound.

demolition · 05 July 2013, 11:09

Thermal paste is not a good heat conductor, although it is a lot better than air.
One should always use as little as possible between a chip and heatsink, but enough so that it covers the entire contact area. If there is a small gap between the heatsink and the chip, you will have very poor cooling performance, even if it is filled with thermal paste.

vitux · 05 July 2013, 12:24

Jope, Demolition: for that reason I do not understand
Would have to be full contact,
but it is the original design Phase 5

Pressed with your finger to test, like you would with the cooler installed,
impossible to adjust more, not flat

demolition · 05 July 2013, 12:32

Are you sure it is oriented correctly?
Otherwise maybe there could be a heat spreader missing between the CPU and cooler?

Mad-Matt · 05 July 2013, 12:34

It looks like the smaller 603 with the exposed core and the cooler appears to be laying flat as it should and the paste has spread nicely. Don't expect any significant pressure from the clips, they just hold it on.

vitux · 05 July 2013, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

Are you sure it is oriented correctly?
Otherwise maybe there could be a heat spreader missing between the CPU and cooler?

Yes, it's correct orientation,
I do not know, anyone can tell me if there is a metal piece in the middle?

vitux · 05 July 2013, 17:28

no contact

vitux · 23 July 2013, 21:54

Nobody knows if there is a piece in the middle?
Well I finally install new fan and also to the 060

Bamiga2002 · 23 July 2013, 22:52

You could do this trick to the Phase5 heatsink to make contact to ppc chip:

I have it like this on my BPPC.

vitux · 24 July 2013, 00:28

Ohh!
then I missed that golden piece, or maybe I was sold without her

Thx Bamiga, enigma solved for me

roy bates · 24 July 2013, 02:25

its called a shim,you can use polished copper plate or anything that transfers heat okay.

Bamiga2002 · 24 July 2013, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitux

Ohh!
then I missed that golden piece, or maybe I was sold without her

Thx Bamiga, enigma solved for me

it's an extra piece of metal you have to add yourself. The ppc heatsink don't come with it by default.

vitux · 24 July 2013, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

it's an extra piece of metal you have to add yourself. The ppc heatsink don't come with it by default.

The ppc heatsink don't come with it by default?
but then there is no contact.
Strange, can not be.

vitux · 31 July 2013, 13:23

stressing the ppc,
works great
Solved my ppc. was really heating problem

Still I have to find out what's wrong with my Mediator. Maybe it was the effect of the ppc.

03 July 2013, 20:59	#1
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	recommendations apply thermal paste to 603 some recommendations on how to apply thermal paste to 603 ppc? the 603 is very small. extend or dots thermal adhesive would be better? is effective?

05 July 2013, 12:24	#9
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	Jope, Demolition: for that reason I do not understand Would have to be full contact, but it is the original design Phase 5 Pressed with your finger to test, like you would with the cooler installed, impossible to adjust more, not flat Last edited by vitux; 05 July 2013 at 12:33.

24 July 2013, 00:28	#16
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	Ohh! then I missed that golden piece, or maybe I was sold without her Thx Bamiga, enigma solved for me Last edited by vitux; 24 July 2013 at 00:34.

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03 July 2013, 21:40	#2
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Put a dot in the middle, press the heatsink in place, see whether the thermal paste spreads out widely enough, add thermal paste if not.

04 July 2013, 00:00	#3
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	Jope, a good idea I want to know if a thermal adhesive is also valid

04 July 2013, 00:09	#4
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Use thermal adhesive only if the heat sink has no other method of fixing it in place, because it will not be as effective as a good quality thermal paste.

04 July 2013, 00:14	#5
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	Thx, he had this doubt

05 July 2013, 10:58	#6
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	I do not understand, There is a separation between the heatsink and the CPU, Therefore, not having pressure, pasta does not extend, just a slight touch.

05 July 2013, 11:06	#7
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Seems like you either need to adjust the heatsink so that it lies flat, or you have to remove all other fasteners and use thermal adhesive. If the heatsink isn't flat against the thing you want to transfer heat from, the thermal paste will work as an insulator instead of a heat transfer compound.

05 July 2013, 11:09	#8
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	Thermal paste is not a good heat conductor, although it is a lot better than air. One should always use as little as possible between a chip and heatsink, but enough so that it covers the entire contact area. If there is a small gap between the heatsink and the chip, you will have very poor cooling performance, even if it is filled with thermal paste.

05 July 2013, 12:32	#10
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	Are you sure it is oriented correctly? Otherwise maybe there could be a heat spreader missing between the CPU and cooler?

05 July 2013, 12:34	#11
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	It looks like the smaller 603 with the exposed core and the cooler appears to be laying flat as it should and the paste has spread nicely. Don't expect any significant pressure from the clips, they just hold it on.

05 July 2013, 17:28	#13
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	no contact

23 July 2013, 21:54	#14
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	Nobody knows if there is a piece in the middle? Well I finally install new fan and also to the 060

23 July 2013, 22:52	#15
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	You could do this trick to the Phase5 heatsink to make contact to ppc chip: I have it like this on my BPPC.

24 July 2013, 02:25	#17
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	its called a shim,you can use polished copper plate or anything that transfers heat okay.

31 July 2013, 13:23	#20
vitux Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 495	stressing the ppc, works great Solved my ppc. was really heating problem Still I have to find out what's wrong with my Mediator. Maybe it was the effect of the ppc.

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