Icaros Desktop (aros) 1.1 released

chiark · 27 March 2009, 12:28

http://www.icarosdesktop.org/

Big news is undoubtedly the beta of the OWB browser now included!

Version 1.1 of your new AROS distribution has finally been released. It's not perfect yet, but it's more stable, and includes all the most urgent features any hobbyst, usable operating system should have. Icaros Desktop has everything VmwAROS already had, with many improvements you'll surely love, like the integration of the modern web browser OWB (which can now open HTML file on your hard drive clicking on them, or launching some famous cloud-computing web applications straight from AmiStart), the addition of the wonderful PDF reader ArosPDF, the vastly-improved AmiBridge thanks to Janus-UAE 0.3 and many, many more.

New since VmwAROS 1.0.2:

- changed name to Icaros Desktop
- added OWB
- added opening HTML files from hard drive
- Direct launcher for many web applications
- improved AmiBridge with Janus-UAE 0.3
- faster Amiga emulation: more sessions possible
- fixed Picasso96 support under emulation
- Running Amiga emulation full screen now possible
- added support for Amiga Forever 2008
- added ArosPDF and removed PoorPDF
- added status bar and other improvements to Wanderer
- updated system files to March 22nd, 2009
- added Drascula adventure game for ScummVM
- updated ScummVM to version 0.12
- added support for iMica network card
- added new background pictures
- updated and fixed MarranoFTP
- updated Radeon driver (better 24 bit support)
- added abrick and some other games
- updated amimemos, finder and simpleeditor
- MPlayer now supports encrypted DVDs
- Music and movie icon files access
- added mkisofs, ptplay, wiiloader and many others
- added awin for Windows-like keyboard shortcuts
- added lookhere image browser and viewer
- updated Wookiechat to version 2.11
- UHCI check before enabling USB support
- less verbose VmwUpdate, now called Updater
- improved overall system stability
- updated libraries and development chain
- updated QEMU files for Live! version

cosmicfrog · 27 March 2009, 13:06

Charlie · 27 March 2009, 15:28

Getting there!

chiark · 27 March 2009, 16:04

Indeed.

This post has been made from OWB inside Icaros within VMWare

. So yes, there's a viable browser on AROS.

Blimey!

chiark · 27 March 2009, 16:11

OK, colour me very impressed - impressed enough to start using this in anger. Sure there's lots of little idiosyncrasies, but they're just cute

, like OWB posting everything twice...

But wow, this is looking positive.

cosmicfrog · 27 March 2009, 19:45

what machine are u running it on chiark ???

Amiga1992 · 27 March 2009, 23:37

I am trying to install this on a USB stick or SD card... Does anybody know how to do it? No matter if I copy all shit to the card or pendrive, it would never boot. Do I have to format the card in a special way? Or should I format it from within AROS?

An help[?

Rabbit80 · 28 March 2009, 00:15

Will it run on my hardware?
Nvidia 570 Chipset
Nvidia 8800GTX (SLi)
4Gb RAM
Athlon 6400 Dual core
Creative soundcard
SATA hard disks (RAID - but I can put a non RAID drive in for this)
IDE CD/DVD x2

TCD · 28 March 2009, 00:22

All you need is VMWare

Your setup should run it fine

Rabbit80 · 28 March 2009, 01:05

Bah - I hate VMWare - I use it every day

Amiga1992 · 28 March 2009, 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

All you need is VMWare

Your setup should run it fine

I know about VMWare and there's more than one reason I want it installed apart.
So, did anybody install this on a pendrive or SD card? Please help.

mihcael · 28 March 2009, 05:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit80

Will it run on my hardware?
...
Nvidia 8800GTX (SLi)
...

Not certain... but it it should!

8800GTX is not supported yet so you will need to boot using VESA graphics (boot menu option)

Amiga1992 · 28 March 2009, 06:50

Mihcael, can you help me out with my issue?

I cant seem to install the system on my SD card.
I dont want to partition or mess with my internal drive AT ALL.

mihcael · 28 March 2009, 07:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Mihcael, can you help me out with my issue?

I cant seem to install the system on my SD card.
I dont want to partition or mess with my internal drive AT ALL.

Im not actually familiar with the procdure myself, never tried!

But all the work done to make AROS bottable from USB devices has been done my Michal Schulz you can read about his work on his blog!! You might find the anser there???

The AROS-EXEC website is down atm, but that would be a good place to search for info and ask the question directly in the forum!!

if you use IRC client someone could help you at aros irc channel, irc.freenode.net #aros

sorry i cant help you further!

Amiga1992 · 28 March 2009, 08:02

I got a warning from firefox saying that the website had sread malware or somethng like that, so i couldnt enter the forums.

thanks for the other link though!

Rabbit80 · 28 March 2009, 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Mihcael, can you help me out with my issue?

I cant seem to install the system on my SD card.
I dont want to partition or mess with my internal drive AT ALL.

For a PeeCee to boot from ANY media it has to be marked as bootable... I'm not too sure how to do this with SD/ Mem stick etc...

Try this maybe.. (from a quick googly search)

Extract from bootable.zip the "bootable.exe" file
Put your SD card into reader or SD slot in computer and copy "bootable.exe" to the SD card
SD card behaves as disk and has assigned some letter (for example "F:"). Run shell (on winXP: menu Start - Run..., type "cmd") and change to SD card (by typing "F:" and press Enter in this example case)
Run "bootable.exe" You will be prompt to give right syntax as "bootable.exe F:"
Confirm and your SD card is bootable (Note: Doesn´t work with SanDisk Ultras "USB-Edition"!)

hit · 28 March 2009, 12:29

@Akira. IIRC , starting Icaros, it does some sort of setup, asking for usb suport, etc. if thats enabled and its recognized somehow, have a look at Tools/HDToolBox.
its a bit tricky here. it should look like: ata.device -> unit 0 -> partition 0 -> DH0/DH1
(in case of a recognized usb device you have to choose usbmss.device - i guess so)
partition 0 has to be the AROS RDB thing, the DHx are setup as FFS (or SFS). reboot aros after saving changes.
then you have to format DHX from cli ( format DRIVE=DHX NAME=WB FFS INTL ). HDToolBox again: "Switches" for DHX to make it automount/bootable.
then you can use the Tools/InstallAROS to move all files to DH0. you also have to edit DH0:boot/grub/grub.cfg, like this example (if its not done by the aros-installer - i had to add it manualy):

Code:

title AROS VBE  640x480  16bpp
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/aros-pc-i386.gz vesa=640x480x16 ATA=32bit floppy=disabled
quiet
boot

the guide is here: http://aros.sourceforge.net/document...stallation.php
these were the steps (those i can recall) i had to do, when i installed an aros-nightly build, to make the system boot from the virtual hdd. maybe it helps somehow.

Amiga1992 · 28 March 2009, 20:54

Well, I accepted the USB thing, entered HDToolbox and found the USBMSS.DEVICE thing... but I am not able to make any changes to it! Is it because I am running it under QEmu?

However from what I read from Mihcal's post. the support for mass storaqge devices is not complete yet.

hit · 30 March 2009, 22:04

i run it also using qemu and i was able to "edit" the ata.device. not tested with usbmss.device. maybe its just lacking proper implementation for now.

mihcael · 31 March 2009, 03:52

Couple of videos showing icaros in action on the imica (1.6 Gz mini itx pc)
[ Show youtube player ] - OWb and other programs
[ Show youtube player ] - Nice demo of Janus UAE

27 March 2009, 12:28	#1
chiark Needs a life Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England Posts: 1,707	Icaros Desktop (aros) 1.1 released http://www.icarosdesktop.org/ Big news is undoubtedly the beta of the OWB browser now included! Version 1.1 of your new AROS distribution has finally been released. It's not perfect yet, but it's more stable, and includes all the most urgent features any hobbyst, usable operating system should have. Icaros Desktop has everything VmwAROS already had, with many improvements you'll surely love, like the integration of the modern web browser OWB (which can now open HTML file on your hard drive clicking on them, or launching some famous cloud-computing web applications straight from AmiStart), the addition of the wonderful PDF reader ArosPDF, the vastly-improved AmiBridge thanks to Janus-UAE 0.3 and many, many more. New since VmwAROS 1.0.2: - changed name to Icaros Desktop - added OWB - added opening HTML files from hard drive - Direct launcher for many web applications - improved AmiBridge with Janus-UAE 0.3 - faster Amiga emulation: more sessions possible - fixed Picasso96 support under emulation - Running Amiga emulation full screen now possible - added support for Amiga Forever 2008 - added ArosPDF and removed PoorPDF - added status bar and other improvements to Wanderer - updated system files to March 22nd, 2009 - added Drascula adventure game for ScummVM - updated ScummVM to version 0.12 - added support for iMica network card - added new background pictures - updated and fixed MarranoFTP - updated Radeon driver (better 24 bit support) - added abrick and some other games - updated amimemos, finder and simpleeditor - MPlayer now supports encrypted DVDs - Music and movie icon files access - added mkisofs, ptplay, wiiloader and many others - added awin for Windows-like keyboard shortcuts - added lookhere image browser and viewer - updated Wookiechat to version 2.11 - UHCI check before enabling USB support - less verbose VmwUpdate, now called Updater - improved overall system stability - updated libraries and development chain - updated QEMU files for Live! version

28 March 2009, 12:29	#17
hit Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: planet earth Posts: 1,115	@Akira. IIRC , starting Icaros, it does some sort of setup, asking for usb suport, etc. if thats enabled and its recognized somehow, have a look at Tools/HDToolBox. its a bit tricky here. it should look like: ata.device -> unit 0 -> partition 0 -> DH0/DH1 (in case of a recognized usb device you have to choose usbmss.device - i guess so) partition 0 has to be the AROS RDB thing, the DHx are setup as FFS (or SFS). reboot aros after saving changes. then you have to format DHX from cli ( format DRIVE=DHX NAME=WB FFS INTL ). HDToolBox again: "Switches" for DHX to make it automount/bootable. then you can use the Tools/InstallAROS to move all files to DH0. you also have to edit DH0:boot/grub/grub.cfg, like this example (if its not done by the aros-installer - i had to add it manualy): Code: title AROS VBE 640x480 16bpp root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/aros-pc-i386.gz vesa=640x480x16 ATA=32bit floppy=disabled quiet boot the guide is here: http://aros.sourceforge.net/document...stallation.php these were the steps (those i can recall) i had to do, when i installed an aros-nightly build, to make the system boot from the virtual hdd. maybe it helps somehow. Last edited by hit; 28 March 2009 at 12:49.

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27 March 2009, 13:06	#2
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557

27 March 2009, 15:28	#3
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Getting there!

27 March 2009, 16:04	#4
chiark Needs a life Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England Posts: 1,707	Indeed. This post has been made from OWB inside Icaros within VMWare . So yes, there's a viable browser on AROS. Blimey!

27 March 2009, 16:11	#5
chiark Needs a life Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England Posts: 1,707	OK, colour me very impressed - impressed enough to start using this in anger. Sure there's lots of little idiosyncrasies, but they're just cute , like OWB posting everything twice... But wow, this is looking positive.

27 March 2009, 19:45	#6
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	what machine are u running it on chiark ???

27 March 2009, 23:37	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I am trying to install this on a USB stick or SD card... Does anybody know how to do it? No matter if I copy all shit to the card or pendrive, it would never boot. Do I have to format the card in a special way? Or should I format it from within AROS? An help[?

28 March 2009, 00:15	#8
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	Will it run on my hardware? Nvidia 570 Chipset Nvidia 8800GTX (SLi) 4Gb RAM Athlon 6400 Dual core Creative soundcard SATA hard disks (RAID - but I can put a non RAID drive in for this) IDE CD/DVD x2

28 March 2009, 00:22	#9
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	All you need is VMWare Your setup should run it fine

28 March 2009, 01:05	#10
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	Bah - I hate VMWare - I use it every day

28 March 2009, 06:50	#13
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Mihcael, can you help me out with my issue? I cant seem to install the system on my SD card. I dont want to partition or mess with my internal drive AT ALL.

28 March 2009, 08:02	#15
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I got a warning from firefox saying that the website had sread malware or somethng like that, so i couldnt enter the forums. thanks for the other link though!

28 March 2009, 20:54	#18
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Well, I accepted the USB thing, entered HDToolbox and found the USBMSS.DEVICE thing... but I am not able to make any changes to it! Is it because I am running it under QEmu? However from what I read from Mihcal's post. the support for mass storaqge devices is not complete yet.

30 March 2009, 22:04	#19
hit Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: planet earth Posts: 1,115	i run it also using qemu and i was able to "edit" the ata.device. not tested with usbmss.device. maybe its just lacking proper implementation for now.

31 March 2009, 03:52	#20
mihcael Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aussie Posts: 1,144	Couple of videos showing icaros in action on the imica (1.6 Gz mini itx pc) [ Show youtube player ] - OWb and other programs [ Show youtube player ] - Nice demo of Janus UAE

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