Bad MCP, BAD!

Amiga1992 · 21 August 2003, 01:19

My 1200 is locking up frequently and I think I can blame MCP. When I boot without no shit added, the machine runs fine for hours on end. Now I changed a setting in MCP and I cant even open a bloody window without the meega GURUing.

Is there any new version, or, do I *really* need MCP? I have no fucking clue about most of the patches included in it, and I don't know if it is safe to turn them on or off...

Any help apreciated.

Amiga1992 · 21 August 2003, 03:14

After deleting the config file, and just turning on the patches that I do understand, the machine works just fine! Seems like one of the more compromised patches (processor maybe?) is fucking up the system.

Now all is well, except two things:

1) I used to have turned on a patch that allowed me to double-click a window to bring it to front. What's its name? It's not clicktofront, like the WB commodity

2) dunno if MCP has something to do with this, but... now when I enter the Fonts preferences, and I try to set the icon font, the fonts window doesnt appear, only the "text and field color' window. WTF?
[edit] I clicked on PROCEED and the font requester appeared... It wasn't like this before, how strange. Oh well....

Codetapper · 21 August 2003, 06:26

Are you sure number 1 isn't ClickToFront? I thought ClickToFront was buggy for ages until I realised they had set some stupid default for the key combination to bring the window to the front. If you look in the tooltypes you'll see it...

Amiga1992 · 21 August 2003, 06:37

I mean a patch from within MCP. I know it is like that because once I resetted MCP the ability was gone, I didn't touch any commodity.

Maybe the Key Shortcuts ? I will try. let's hope the system doesn't go ballistic, it's working *very* well since I removed all that crap.

Another patch w=question: should I really use BlazeWCP?Doesn't seem to be of much use to me, but I oculd be missing somehting.

Severin · 21 August 2003, 12:01

MCP is a badly written hack, It works on basic 1200's with a bit of extra ram, but above that, problems start to creep in, it totally fails on A4k's with 060's, and is not happy with 040's

I reccommend you try MultiCX (aminet), it's not as big and clunky as MCP, doesn't have all the features (it's mostly missing the ones that cause problems) but it has all the usuall patches and the docs arn't too bad either...

PM me for the 'Registration Details'

as for BlazeWCP, you only need it for things like doom / quake etc. and if you havn't got a gfx card...

woody57 · 21 August 2003, 15:28

... On the two 16mb 1230 expanded 1200,s I,ve run I never found a way of intergrating it without conflicts with other patches , twice I ended up having to reinstall workbench just to clear out its effects . .. But I,m just a humble user not a tech specialist .. so I don,t have any "Fix " solutions .

SORRY

Amiga1992 · 21 August 2003, 16:38

Hey Sev, thanks for the mega tips! I will download MujtiCX RIGHT NOW.

I remember I dloaded BlazeWCP for trying out ScummVM... Besides of that I never found any other use for it. Yep, I have no GFX card.

Will report results here. I'm about to make the switch to SFS too

Amiga1992 · 21 August 2003, 19:58

well, MultiCX is a beaut

I have disabled most of MCP's patches. I'm still keeping it because of only ONE bloody reason: ForceHiResPointer works better with it, and MCP's screen promotion facility works better with the AHX Tracker (ModePro makes the Amiga crash with AHX when I switch from the pattern editor to the instrument editor)

Is ModePro really the best mode promotion app?

Severin · 21 August 2003, 23:33

Quote:

ONE bloody reason

ONE bloody answer: scrap it... it's not worth the memory for one hack...

add this tooltype to MultiCX:

I_AM_REGISTERED=42

Woodshed: it's all your fault, I've got to find a Fat Freddy Avatar now...

Edit: oops forgot the ModePro bit...

give NewMode a try, it's not as configurable as ModePro but I've used it for many, many years without problems...

Amiga1992 · 22 August 2003, 01:08

Ta for the tooltype, and new modepromotion proggy.

Actually, there were two reasons I wrote

Will report again

haynor666 · 22 August 2003, 06:33

Hmm... I have also problems with MCP, for example with Reqtools patch and GUI3D hack.

Amiga1992 · 22 August 2003, 07:34

NewMode still fucks up the machine after I load AHX... I need to turn it off for a while and back on again for it not to lock up when i click on an icon (!).

I guess I'm stuck with MCP for now. It's working OK, much better than before, so it's fine. For now :P

woody57 · 22 August 2003, 12:21

..... have you been forced to change avatar because of sudden wieght gain due to a gravitational flux in your local area thus compressing and increasing the density of your frame ?, or have my inane and often pointless posts driven you to despair and despondency so much that you now wish to disguise your distinguished features so I wont harass you in thread ? { thinks MAYBEE Stalker could be a career change ! }
if so I,m sorry !:eek

Severin · 22 August 2003, 16:17

Unfortunately I am the 'gravitational flux in your local area'

as for 'or have my inane and often pointless posts driven you to despair and despondency', hmmm, well, no more than everybody elses

hmmm, I will have to remember 'distinguished features' it's a bit more polite than the usual 'ugly fat bastard'

oh, and harass away and NEVER apologise to a harassee, it's a sign of weakness

and of course Fat Freddy has been a role model to me for most of my life...

woody57 · 22 August 2003, 16:23

......is to lure the victim into a sense and false security then strike with deadly force and having struck move onto the next target
{ See I am doing my homework! }

21 August 2003, 01:19	#1
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Bad MCP, BAD! My 1200 is locking up frequently and I think I can blame MCP. When I boot without no shit added, the machine runs fine for hours on end. Now I changed a setting in MCP and I cant even open a bloody window without the meega GURUing. Is there any new version, or, do I really need MCP? I have no fucking clue about most of the patches included in it, and I don't know if it is safe to turn them on or off... Any help apreciated.

21 August 2003, 15:28	#6
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	I agree with Sevrin ! ... On the two 16mb 1230 expanded 1200,s I,ve run I never found a way of intergrating it without conflicts with other patches , twice I ended up having to reinstall workbench just to clear out its effects . .. But I,m just a humble user not a tech specialist .. so I don,t have any "Fix " solutions . SORRY

22 August 2003, 12:21	#13
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	What Sevrin ? How it my fault ? ..... have you been forced to change avatar because of sudden wieght gain due to a gravitational flux in your local area thus compressing and increasing the density of your frame ?, or have my inane and often pointless posts driven you to despair and despondency so much that you now wish to disguise your distinguished features so I wont harass you in thread ? { thinks MAYBEE Stalker could be a career change ! } if so I,m sorry !:eek

22 August 2003, 16:23	#15
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	The Assasins Art........ ......is to lure the victim into a sense and false security then strike with deadly force and having struck move onto the next target { See I am doing my homework! }

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21 August 2003, 03:14	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	After deleting the config file, and just turning on the patches that I do understand, the machine works just fine! Seems like one of the more compromised patches (processor maybe?) is fucking up the system. Now all is well, except two things: 1) I used to have turned on a patch that allowed me to double-click a window to bring it to front. What's its name? It's not clicktofront, like the WB commodity 2) dunno if MCP has something to do with this, but... now when I enter the Fonts preferences, and I try to set the icon font, the fonts window doesnt appear, only the "text and field color' window. WTF? [edit] I clicked on PROCEED and the font requester appeared... It wasn't like this before, how strange. Oh well....

21 August 2003, 06:26	#3
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Are you sure number 1 isn't ClickToFront? I thought ClickToFront was buggy for ages until I realised they had set some stupid default for the key combination to bring the window to the front. If you look in the tooltypes you'll see it...

21 August 2003, 06:37	#4
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I mean a patch from within MCP. I know it is like that because once I resetted MCP the ability was gone, I didn't touch any commodity. Maybe the Key Shortcuts ? I will try. let's hope the system doesn't go ballistic, it's working very well since I removed all that crap. Another patch w=question: should I really use BlazeWCP?Doesn't seem to be of much use to me, but I oculd be missing somehting.

21 August 2003, 12:01	#5
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	MCP is a badly written hack, It works on basic 1200's with a bit of extra ram, but above that, problems start to creep in, it totally fails on A4k's with 060's, and is not happy with 040's I reccommend you try MultiCX (aminet), it's not as big and clunky as MCP, doesn't have all the features (it's mostly missing the ones that cause problems) but it has all the usuall patches and the docs arn't too bad either... PM me for the 'Registration Details' as for BlazeWCP, you only need it for things like doom / quake etc. and if you havn't got a gfx card...

21 August 2003, 16:38	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Hey Sev, thanks for the mega tips! I will download MujtiCX RIGHT NOW. I remember I dloaded BlazeWCP for trying out ScummVM... Besides of that I never found any other use for it. Yep, I have no GFX card. Will report results here. I'm about to make the switch to SFS too

21 August 2003, 19:58	#8
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	well, MultiCX is a beaut I have disabled most of MCP's patches. I'm still keeping it because of only ONE bloody reason: ForceHiResPointer works better with it, and MCP's screen promotion facility works better with the AHX Tracker (ModePro makes the Amiga crash with AHX when I switch from the pattern editor to the instrument editor) Is ModePro really the best mode promotion app?

22 August 2003, 01:08	#10
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Ta for the tooltype, and new modepromotion proggy. Actually, there were two reasons I wrote Will report again

22 August 2003, 06:33	#11
haynor666 retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 1,748	Hmm... I have also problems with MCP, for example with Reqtools patch and GUI3D hack.

22 August 2003, 07:34	#12
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	NewMode still fucks up the machine after I load AHX... I need to turn it off for a while and back on again for it not to lock up when i click on an icon (!). I guess I'm stuck with MCP for now. It's working OK, much better than before, so it's fine. For now :P

22 August 2003, 16:17	#14
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	Unfortunately I am the 'gravitational flux in your local area' as for 'or have my inane and often pointless posts driven you to despair and despondency', hmmm, well, no more than everybody elses hmmm, I will have to remember 'distinguished features' it's a bit more polite than the usual 'ugly fat bastard' oh, and harass away and NEVER apologise to a harassee, it's a sign of weakness and of course Fat Freddy has been a role model to me for most of my life...

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