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Old 03 March 2021, 17:37   #4381
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I hope we get this resolved! I know Hedeon has a Ragnarok running in his AA3000+ so we should get this figured out.
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Old 03 March 2021, 18:06   #4382
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I hope we get this resolved! I know Hedeon has a Ragnarok running in his AA3000+ so we should get this figured out.
Well Hedeon has worked wonders getting PPC's to work via PCI, something that was original promised "sharkPPC" but never materialised. I bet this takes a lot of Hedeons free time because just testing and trialling my card takes forever with all the trying this setting and seeing the results, he also has the programming side of it, you could say we are his BETA testers

What you are doing here is giving him results on a different hardware setup

I think he'll crack it

@Hedeon I have a question ref this Beta lib for the Prometheus bus-boards will this be compatible for both mediator and Prometheus or will you keep them separate
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Old 03 March 2021, 18:11   #4383
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Any hits outside of the standard memory being present in the memory list gives a DSI hit. So also 00000004 which is....the exec library base. I guess I have to remove that from the hit list from the debug version (which you have).

It would be nice to see the version of the powerpc library you are using @torsti76. Also, try with the latest asm version if you have a Mediator. The C version was made to make it easy to add stuff as the asm version was becoming unmaintainable.
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Old 03 March 2021, 19:47   #4384
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If @torsti76 and @matt3k are using the debug version of the library, there might be sense in plugging in a null modem cable to a PeeCee and capturing the serial output - see what that says.
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Old 03 March 2021, 20:00   #4385
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If @torsti76 and @matt3k are using the debug version of the library, there might be sense in plugging in a null modem cable to a PeeCee and capturing the serial output - see what that says.
I already did. Can post the complete output later on.

Nothing mighty suspicious though, just the DSI hit message above.
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Old 03 March 2021, 20:56   #4386
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@Hedeon first of all I wanted to say that I really appreciate what you accomplished with the Sonnet library. And I'm very grateful that you push it even further with the new C library.
What's more, this is all done open source which rarely happens on such a level in the Amiga software world.

That said, I really see myself as a tester, alpha, beta, I don't mind. I built an AA3000+ in full knowledge that this is an experimental machine. I like what's been accomplished within about a year of its incarnation - getting it to run with the Firestorm firmware and awakening the DSP. I'd like to help piecing together more of this great puzzle.

So, since I'm not interested in the Mediator atm but rather in getting the PPC cards to work in the AA3000+, the asm library is not an option.

I am using the prometheus.library and PowerPC.library from the testlibs.lha you shared here several days ago.

As said, the Apocalypse basically works. All test routines and software besides the Warp3D stuff work as intended.

Only when I start any Warp3D stuff, the graphics output immediately freezes. If it's something with sound, the sound just plays fine, only the graphics output is trashed. I've tried both my trusted Voodoo3 2000 and a spare Voodoo3 3000. Same result.
I tried numerous versions of P96. I did all the suggested MMUlib setup, I tried both OS 3.1.4 and 3.9 + Boingbags. Nothing helps.

68k Warp3D stuff works fine, btw. I'm using the 4.2a from aminet.

What else could I try?

What debug levels/outputs could be helpful?

Thanks!
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Just a shot in the dark, but have you guys verified your P96 settings? GrantDirectAccess or BorderBlank caused some crashiness for me in the past.
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Old 03 March 2021, 22:15   #4388
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Just checked:

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version full libs:powerpc/powerpc.library
powerpc.library 17.14 beta (20.01.2021)
I saw that there happened several commits to the PowerPC github since then, among them fixes for Voodoo setup and MMU.

I just can't seem to be able to cross-compile the new lib on linux like I could with the SonnetAmiga repo.

Would it make sense to try a more recent build?

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Old 03 March 2021, 22:23   #4389
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Just a shot in the dark, but have you guys verified your P96 settings? GrantDirectAccess or BorderBlank caused some crashiness for me in the past.
Thanks, just set GrantDirectAccess and BorderBlank explicitly to "No". Unfortunately, no change.
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Old 03 March 2021, 22:34   #4390
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Output after "StartPPC" with debug=1 in ENV:sonnet

Code:
Started Library Init routine
Version: $VER: powerpc.library 17.14 beta (20.01.21)

Detected Firestorm/Firebird PCI bridge
Opening of support libraries completed
3DFX card detected, Gfx address at 60000000, config address at 62000000
Size of Gfx card in PCI memory is 02000000
Detected Harrier based PPC PCI card
Setting PMEP base at 64050000
Setting up Harrier config base at 64051000
Setting up Harrier PIC base at 64000000
Done setting up PPC memory at address 68000000 with size 08000000
Waiting on PPC card to respond
Accessible PPC memory set up with header at 68410000
Inserted PPC memory into Exec memory list
Library base set up at 6FF76CB0
Copied PPC kernel code into place
Gort 68K interrupt now running at 07E699D4
MasterControl now running at 07ED8950
Completed adding various patches to Exec library
ramlib_PPC -> CreateTaskPPC(07EFC9A0)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68410040, 00000100)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68410180, 00000040)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68410200, 00000018)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68410260, 00000007)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 684102A0, 00000018)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68410300, 00010000)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68420340, 00000018)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68420380, 00000448)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68420820, 00000018)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68420860, 00000064)
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC(68420890)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68420900, 00000020)
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC() = FFFFFFFF
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68420960, 000003A0)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68420D40, 00000012)
ramlib_PPC -> CreateTaskPPC() = 68410040
Started Kryten PPC cleanup task
Now starting VoxelSpace:

Code:
voxelspace_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC(04002001, 00080200, 00040020)
voxelspace_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68420EA0, 0000002C)
voxelspace_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC() = 68420EA0
voxelspace_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68445140, 00200060)
voxelspace_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC(04012001, 00080200, 00040020)
voxelspace_PPC -> Signal68K(07E8ACA8, 40000000)
voxelspace_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 6866A980, 0000002C)
voxelspace_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC() = 6866A980
voxelspace_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 6866B1C0, 00080220)
voxelspace_PPC -> Signal68K(07E8ACA8, 40000000)
voxelspace_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 6871D200, 00041060)
Closing it:

Code:
Kryten -> DeletePoolPPC(6866A980)
Kryten -> DeletePoolPPC(68420EA0)
Starting "gearsppc_small":

Code:
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC(00012000, 00080200, 00040020)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68421080, 0000002C)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC() = 68421080
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 6846D540, 00080220)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC(00002000, 00080200, 00040020)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68421100, 0000002C)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC() = 68421100
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 684ED7A0, 00080220)
Detected DSI hit outside of memory bounds at 00000004
ramlib_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC(00002000, 00080200, 00040020)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 684213E0, 0000002C)
ramlib_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC() = 684213E0
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68585E80, 00080220)
ramlib_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC(00012000, 00080200, 00040020)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 68421460, 0000002C)
ramlib_PPC -> CreatePoolPPC() = 68421460
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 6866ADE0, 00080220)
Detected DSI hit outside of memory bounds at 00000004
Detected DSI hit outside of memory bounds at 00000004
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC(6866B220)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 686062C0, 00000020)
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC() = FFFFFFFF
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC(6866B2C0)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 6860AE60, 00000020)
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC() = FFFFFFFF
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC(6866B360)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 6860AEC0, 00000020)
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC() = FFFFFFFF
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC(6866B400)
ramlib_PPC -> SetCache(0000000B, 6860AF60, 00000020)
ramlib_PPC -> InitSemaphorePPC() = FFFFFFFF
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC(00000000, 00001000)
gearsppc.exe_PPC -> SetSignalPPC() = 00000000
Then it freezes...
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Old 03 March 2021, 23:01   #4391
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Yeah, one of the errors I saw was that the gfx memory is at 0x62000000 and the config at 0x60000000 really (and not the other way around like in your output). That was fixed.
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Yeah, one of the errors I saw was that the gfx memory is at 0x62000000 and the config at 0x60000000 really (and not the other way around like in your output). That was fixed.
Yes, that's one of the commits that got my attention. :-)

If I setup vbcc, vasm, etc., and GNU make on the Amiga, will the C library compile with the included makefile?
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Old 04 March 2021, 01:03   #4393
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Yes, that's one of the commits that got my attention. :-)

If I setup vbcc, vasm, etc., and GNU make on the Amiga, will the C library compile with the included makefile?
The makefile depends on CubicIDE so you need to adapt it probably. Also you need the prometheus includes and mediator includes i think.

I would compile it for you, but I need to assemble my AA3000+ first for that.
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Old 04 March 2021, 01:30   #4394
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Well... here you go.

It works on my machine.
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File Type: lha powerpclib_nodebug.lha (45.1 KB, 24 views)
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Thanks Hedeon, I will give it a try soon!

Really appreciate all the time and help to get this going.
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Well... here you go.



It works on my machine.
Thank you very much! Will try today.
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I gave it a quick test with the same results, didn't work.

Good luck Torsti, maybe it will work for you... Interesting that voxel space doesn't run that fast like you encountered.
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I gave it a quick test with the same results, didn't work.

Good luck Torsti, maybe it will work for you... Interesting that voxel space doesn't run that fast like you encountered.
What's your VoxelSpace framerate?
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So far, it still doesn't work for me. Tried with a minimal startup-sequence to no avail.

Now playing a bit with the P96 tooltypes and envvars.
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Old 04 March 2021, 10:29   #4400
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Guys, nothing personal but you really should give more info.

Not like 'it runs half the speed of my CSPPC' or
Not giving the resolution you running at or
Not giving version numbers or
Not going to a basic installation if something does not work etc.
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