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FFS Fast File System 8 27.59%
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Old 02 April 2019, 09:40   #1
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Amiga OS 3.14 FFS VS PFS All In One

For people on amiga os 3.14 how many of you are using the new fast file system and how many of you still perfer pfs3aio
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Old 02 April 2019, 13:01   #2
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There is also SFS (Smart File System)
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Old 02 April 2019, 13:08   #3
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There is also SFS (Smart File System)
While i know about sfs alot of the info at the time recommand pfs3 aio each to each there own i guess.
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Old 02 April 2019, 13:25   #4
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PFS3 is definitely the best choice, includes excellent tools, on the real Amiga I have always used PFS, but I must say that SFS is also a good alternative I use it and I have never had problems.
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Old 02 April 2019, 17:51   #5
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I hate to split hairs here, but can we please call it 3.1.4? 3.14 is not the correct version. It’s a furtherance of 3.1, not a furtherance of 3.x.
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Old 02 April 2019, 17:56   #6
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Hmm, It was 1-4 for PFS3. Logged in. Pressed PFS3 and voted...now it is 2-4? WTF?
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Old 02 April 2019, 17:56   #7
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I am not an AmigaOS 3.1.4 user so I am wondering did they fix any of the performance issues of FFS in 3.1.4?

PFS3 and SFS offer a huge performance increase over FFS from 3.1
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Old 02 April 2019, 18:06   #8
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Yes, PFS and SFS especially offer more guarantees, rare invalidated HardDisk, deleted file recovery and much more.
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Old 02 April 2019, 18:50   #9
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PFS3 is definitely the best choice, includes excellent tools, on the real Amiga I have always used PFS, but I must say that SFS is also a good alternative I use it and I have never had problems.
Unfortunately, PFS still has issues. For example, we had seen here cases where recursively deleting a directory from PFS caused a "object is in use" error, even though no lock was held on any object in the directory. The problem here seems to be that PFS does not delete objects immediately, but rather moves them around, but then as soon as "delete" attempts to delete the parent directory of such an object, barks, at least until the move is complete.
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Old 02 April 2019, 18:58   #10
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I am 100% PFS3 (newest version) filesystem supporter until death takes me! Any new update of pfs3 I will simply backup all my files and then format the hard drive with the new pfs3 and repeat cycle. That is how I function - sniff -

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OOH! IS THAT WHY everytime I delete a folder I get that annoying it still lingers there and it is in USE error message until later for it to disappear? Pfft that is trivial compared to what I am getting in return. I can handle such annoyance - grin -
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Unfortunately, PFS still has issues. For example, we had seen here cases where recursively deleting a directory from PFS caused a "object is in use" error, even though no lock was held on any object in the directory. The problem here seems to be that PFS does not delete objects immediately, but rather moves them around, but then as soon as "delete" attempts to delete the parent directory of such an object, barks, at least until the move is complete.
Yes is true Thomas, another problem is in saving large files, after copying you have to wait a few seconds, if you restart immediately you risk to have a file "not complete" and then corrupted. This was happening with PFS2 and PFS3 I have not tested with PS3Aio
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Old 03 April 2019, 00:17   #12
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Yes is true Thomas, another problem is in saving large files, after copying you have to wait a few seconds, if you restart immediately you risk to have a file "not complete" and then corrupted. This was happening with PFS2 and PFS3 I have not tested with PS3Aio
- hugs PFS3 - MY FAVORITE FILESYSTEM EVER!!!
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- hugs PFS3 - MY FAVORITE FILESYSTEM EVER!!
If you read my first post, I said that PFS is the best choice, I only mentioned a few flaws, even SFS has its flaws as the lack of tools for repairing a corrupt disc
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Old 03 April 2019, 12:19   #14
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If you read my first post, I said that PFS is the best choice, I only mentioned a few flaws, even SFS has its flaws as the lack of tools for repairing a corrupt disc
First thing first i appreciate all of the information in this thread by all users

When it comes to the ffs in 3.14.I know long file names has been added but don't know of any other improvements.

When it comes to the sfs vs pfs3-aio debate i usually use pfs3-aio. But that because it was highly recommended by users. And toni seem to be keeping it up to date and fixing bugs.

In the past i heard of ffs and sfs horror stories.none the less it look like pfs3-aio is the overall winner.

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I found by chance this interesting video a couple of weeks ago regarding this subject.

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Old 05 April 2019, 06:31   #16
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The "recycled files" feature of pfs naturally comes with a speed penalty and a few hickups, but it is also not at all mandatory.
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Old 06 April 2019, 21:24   #17
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YAY!! PFS All In One is WINNING!! WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!


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Old 06 April 2019, 21:35   #18
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My comment is here

Maybe the new FFS is worth the try... but it's hard to change habits especially if you are happy with what you use.
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Old 06 April 2019, 23:56   #19
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Btw, people should do more testing of filesystem during out of memory situations... that sometimes reveals unwanted "features".
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Old 07 April 2019, 22:16   #20
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PFS3 is nice and fast, but till it not support 4k blocksize, it will kill your CF/SD soon.

I changed my CF cards to new FFS with 4k blocksize.
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