Best Amiga Settings?

newoski · 30 December 2016, 16:37

Hi Guys,

I have Amiga setup and working using the defaults, however, I'm running into a few games that aren't working. The first of which is Settlers.

I have powerful hardware, so I'm not worried about using extra computer power unnecessarily.

Not worrying about CPU power etc, what would the best settings be, to avoid in game errors about memory etc?

Toni Wilen · 30 December 2016, 17:33

Quickstart A500 settings are the only "supported" ones if target system is mostly unexpanded A500.

Settlers is an exception, it allows larger (random) maps if system has more RAM. Most games ignore extra RAM and only work with "slow RAM" and ignore real fast RAM.

Your problem sounds like having too many external drives enabled. Start with basic config first, only add drives/memory/etc after confirming that basic config works.

newoski · 30 December 2016, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Quickstart A500 settings are the only "supported" ones if target system is mostly unexpanded A500.

Settlers is an exception, it allows larger (random) maps if system has more RAM. Most games ignore extra RAM and only work with "slow RAM" and ignore real fast RAM.

Your problem sounds like having too many external drives enabled. Start with basic config first, only add drives/memory/etc after confirming that basic config works.

I'm using default settings at the moment, settlers is the first game I ran into that errored out...

what's settings would I change to get Settlers working... and can they be enabled globally without breaking other games?

Pat the Cat · 30 December 2016, 21:01

Not many games bug out because you have fast RAM added.

Some insist on having 512K of slow fast RAM. So I suggest you add that first, and see how Settlers likes it.

You should find very few games that stop working. Probably none.

Switching chipsets is more of a headache, but happily if you hold down both mouse buttons while starting up a real Amiga, it lets you choose. I think that was added in 2, might be 3 and later, machines.

Toni Wilen · 30 December 2016, 21:14

"default" setting does not really explain much.. Default means loading "default.uae" if it exist.

0.5 chip + 0.5 "slow" is the most common A500 configuration. 1 or 2 floppy drives.

rare_j · 30 December 2016, 22:43

The settlers is a system friendly game that is tolerent of all sorts of cpu and memory configurations.
Where did you get your copy of the game?
Can you specify how it is 'not working'?

DamienD · 30 December 2016, 23:10

Just checked my Settler's configuration; it's basically:

Quickstart "A500 - 1.3 ROM, ECS Agnus, 512 KB Chip RAM + 512 KB Slow RAM".

The .ADFs that I use are as follows:

... Settlers, The (1993)(Blue Byte)[cr FLT](Disk 1 of 3)(Intro).adf [CRC: 2A786568]
... Settlers, The (1993)(Blue Byte)[cr FLT](Disk 2 of 3).adf [CRC: A88175B1]
... Settlers, The (1993)(Blue Byte)[cr FLT](Disk 3 of 3)(Boot).adf [CRC: 15B9A872]

Only enable one drive though.

Pat the Cat · 30 December 2016, 23:22

Config looks good to me. Although it could be the game insists on two floppy drives.

Also, try boosting chip RAMs to 1MB, and add some Fast RAM (1-8MB is usually not a problem). That might get Settlers running. Although it might mess with compatibility of your other games.

rare_j · 31 December 2016, 04:04

It's not necessary to run a cracked version of the game; the disks have no protection. Use images of the original disks and when the copy protection comes up just use the manual.
http://hol.abime.net/1878/manual

From the manual:
a) General remarks about the configuration
Do not forget that any program already loaded when the game is
launched will take up memory space; memory space that might be
needed by the Settlers game in order to run properly. We recommend,
therefore, that you do not load other programs into memory if you are
going to use the game. If several programs are automatically loaded
when the computer boots up, use another startup-sequence for The
Settlers.
b) Configuration for 512 KB of Chipram or 1 MB of total
memory only.
If you have 1 MB of Chipram and at least 1.5 MB of RAM total, you
can skip this paragraph. The program uses Chipram memory for the
screens, the animation, the sound effects and the music. If you have
only 512 KB of Chipram, you will have to sacrifice something: you will
hear only part of the sound effects, and no music at all. The sound
effects are loaded based on the available memory. You can increase
the available memory by:
- disconnecting unnecessary disk drives
- not activating the hard disk (if it contains Chipram)
- avoiding to launch other programs
The rest of the available memory is used by the program for the
data, the scenery, and the graphics. In order to use the scenarios with
only 1 MB of memory, we recommend that you reread the points
mentioned above.

30 December 2016, 16:37	#1
newoski Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Philadelphia, USA Posts: 19	Best Amiga Settings? Hi Guys, I have Amiga setup and working using the defaults, however, I'm running into a few games that aren't working. The first of which is Settlers. I have powerful hardware, so I'm not worried about using extra computer power unnecessarily. Not worrying about CPU power etc, what would the best settings be, to avoid in game errors about memory etc?

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30 December 2016, 17:33	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Quickstart A500 settings are the only "supported" ones if target system is mostly unexpanded A500. Settlers is an exception, it allows larger (random) maps if system has more RAM. Most games ignore extra RAM and only work with "slow RAM" and ignore real fast RAM. Your problem sounds like having too many external drives enabled. Start with basic config first, only add drives/memory/etc after confirming that basic config works.

30 December 2016, 21:01	#4
Pat the Cat Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 481	Not many games bug out because you have fast RAM added. Some insist on having 512K of slow fast RAM. So I suggest you add that first, and see how Settlers likes it. You should find very few games that stop working. Probably none. Switching chipsets is more of a headache, but happily if you hold down both mouse buttons while starting up a real Amiga, it lets you choose. I think that was added in 2, might be 3 and later, machines.

30 December 2016, 21:14	#5
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	"default" setting does not really explain much.. Default means loading "default.uae" if it exist. 0.5 chip + 0.5 "slow" is the most common A500 configuration. 1 or 2 floppy drives.

30 December 2016, 22:43	#6
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	The settlers is a system friendly game that is tolerent of all sorts of cpu and memory configurations. Where did you get your copy of the game? Can you specify how it is 'not working'?

30 December 2016, 23:10	#7
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Just checked my Settler's configuration; it's basically: Quickstart "A500 - 1.3 ROM, ECS Agnus, 512 KB Chip RAM + 512 KB Slow RAM". The .ADFs that I use are as follows: ... Settlers, The (1993)(Blue Byte)[cr FLT](Disk 1 of 3)(Intro).adf [CRC: 2A786568] ... Settlers, The (1993)(Blue Byte)[cr FLT](Disk 2 of 3).adf [CRC: A88175B1] ... Settlers, The (1993)(Blue Byte)[cr FLT](Disk 3 of 3)(Boot).adf [CRC: 15B9A872] Only enable one drive though.

30 December 2016, 23:22	#8
Pat the Cat Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 481	Config looks good to me. Although it could be the game insists on two floppy drives. Also, try boosting chip RAMs to 1MB, and add some Fast RAM (1-8MB is usually not a problem). That might get Settlers running. Although it might mess with compatibility of your other games.

31 December 2016, 04:04	#9
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	It's not necessary to run a cracked version of the game; the disks have no protection. Use images of the original disks and when the copy protection comes up just use the manual. http://hol.abime.net/1878/manual From the manual: a) General remarks about the configuration Do not forget that any program already loaded when the game is launched will take up memory space; memory space that might be needed by the Settlers game in order to run properly. We recommend, therefore, that you do not load other programs into memory if you are going to use the game. If several programs are automatically loaded when the computer boots up, use another startup-sequence for The Settlers. b) Configuration for 512 KB of Chipram or 1 MB of total memory only. If you have 1 MB of Chipram and at least 1.5 MB of RAM total, you can skip this paragraph. The program uses Chipram memory for the screens, the animation, the sound effects and the music. If you have only 512 KB of Chipram, you will have to sacrifice something: you will hear only part of the sound effects, and no music at all. The sound effects are loaded based on the available memory. You can increase the available memory by: - disconnecting unnecessary disk drives - not activating the hard disk (if it contains Chipram) - avoiding to launch other programs The rest of the available memory is used by the program for the data, the scenery, and the graphics. In order to use the scenarios with only 1 MB of memory, we recommend that you reread the points mentioned above.

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