WinUAE 0.8.21R2 released

Toni Wilen · 07 March 2002, 20:24

http://www.winuae.net/

Filesystem fixes, CD32/uaescsi.device fixes, custom chip emulation fixes, hopefully better sound (?) etc...

Ian · 07 March 2002, 20:37

I had work to do tonight, guess that's all out of the window now

Keep up the good work Toni

Paul · 07 March 2002, 20:42

Thanks again Toni. Keep up the good work.

Looking good so far. State of the Art runs as well as it does on Winfellow. Well it does on my PC anyway!

rlake · 07 March 2002, 20:45

Just to let u know that the new code to scan drives and boot the CD works great (well, my config is probably as bad as it gets), am now playing a quick game on Beneath a Steel Sky. Must not play until the early hours, must work... d'oh

Steve · 07 March 2002, 21:28

I'm just a little curious Toni. How come the size of the WinUAE executable has dramatically dropped from 2.71MB (0.8.17r3) to 1.93MB in the latest version. Was there a lot of code not being used or something like that? Also is there going to be an updated help file. I think that's quite overdue. Keep up the good work though Toni. The best thing about this release to me sounds like the CD32 Joypad emulation. I'll go try it out now and see what it's like.

RetroMan · 08 March 2002, 00:57

Heyhey

New Version works like a charm here, no more Bluesreens as in R1

Keep up the good work Toni !

jmmijo · 08 March 2002, 01:17

Great work Toni, keep it up

@Steve, since Toni mentioned he had re-written and streamlined some of the code, this would be expected. Of course there maybe a point where tweaking the code could also result in a larger file size

Steve · 08 March 2002, 15:22

Ok I've had a bit of a play with it and I'm quite impressed by the latest version. It's a lot better than release 1 anyway. I've found that setting the CPU tab to about 6 or 7 gives a good stable speed with not much slow down. On version 0.8.17 I used to keep the "Fastest Possible" radio button selected and I had perfect speed in every game I played but it doesn't seem to offer fast results in the latest version. It slows the emulation right down in fact. Is that option now redundant? Another thing I've noticed is that the sound isn't as crystal clear as it was. It gives an occasional crackle every few seconds. Could this be a Soundblaster Live issue? I'm running on an Athlon 600 with XP. I was hoping for proper CD32 joypad emulation that uses the sidewinder joypad and is configurable but I'll have to wait a bit longer for that.

I managed to get Aladdin AGA to work (boot properly) at last using the latest release which I was very pleased about. Unfortunately it Guru'd before the first level loaded. Has anyone tried Gloom Deluxe out? That's really bizarre. The palette looks all corrupt. Very strange. I'll stick to 0.8.17 for now because I suspect that the latest release demands a faster processor than what I currently have. The games and Workbench appear quite a bit slower on my machine. I'm not moaning by the way. I'm hoping this will help Toni a little bit. I'm really pleased with the CD32 emulation. Top stuff. One more thing before I sign off. Is it possible for a HDF file to become corrupt and get a read error. Because it happened to me yesterday with one of my HDFs. I booted it up and it came up with the read error on sector 5543.... blah. How is that possible? I had a backup though so it wasn't a big disaster.

andreas · 08 March 2002, 17:44

Quote:

I managed to get Aladdin AGA to work (boot properly) at last using the latest release which I was very pleased about. Unfortunately it Guru'd before the first level loaded.

Well I wasn't half as lucky as you.
I'm using the PRODIGY crack (you too?) and it gurus immediately after the intro. Could you post your config, please? I'll try to tweak it because I remember this problem before 1st level could be solved if you adjust the mem settings appropriately.

Chuckles · 08 March 2002, 17:58

In playing around with WinUAE and trying to create configs for all of my games that actually work, I've run across a few that exhibit problems. I thought I'd pass these along in the hope that the info might be of use in working out the kinks in the emulator.

Batman - The Caped Crusader

This one was working perfectly under 0.8.17, but under 0.8.21, when it reaches the title screen, both the sound and the graphics are badly corrupted.

Faery Tale Adventure

This one has been baffling me for a long time. The game works fine, but during the intro (when it's flipping through pages in the book), the sound is VERY scratchy/noisy. When you get past the intro and into the game, the sound is fine. I've tried this one with a number of WinUAE versions, including the 0.8.8 version that so many people swear by, with the same results. With 0.8.21, the problem has actually gotten somewhat better, in that the sound starts to clear up before the intro is finished, but it still starts out sounding really bad.

If there's any other information that I can provide that might be helpful in trying to isolate the problem, I'd be happy to do that when I'm at home.

Steve · 08 March 2002, 18:05

Here is the config file I'm using. I've just tried it again and tweaked a couple of things and lo and behold it has actually managed to load up the level. HOORAH!!

. Finally this awesome game works on WinUAE. There's just one small problem with it. It runs incredibly slow on my machine for some reason. All other Amiga games run at good speeds but not this. It's super slow even with sound emulation turned off. Anyway I Hope you can get it to work on your machine Andreas. Good luck.

stainy · 08 March 2002, 21:15

Well that scratchy sound in the into for Faery Tale Adv is in the original sometimes too.. as a massive fan of FTA, I can say this without doubt

Chuckles · 08 March 2002, 22:17

@Stainy
I don't doubt that, but it doesn't do it when I run it on my real A500 - only when I run it in an emulator. Hmmm, I'll have to see if that affects WinFellow as well - should have done that already.

08 March 2002, 23:25

Chaos Engine CD32

Under R1, The Chaos Engine CD32 had no sound (except from the CD), now that is fixed in R2

However there is still some graphic corruption in the game (horizontal garbage lines about 1 per screen) , but much much more playable with the fixed sound!

CDTV

Tony, can you please confirm if CDTV is emulated yet? I have the ROMs from Amiga Forever 5, but get WinUAE error "Error while reading kickstart" when I try!!

Regards

Toni Wilen · 09 March 2002, 12:44

Oops, CDTV Kickstart error is caused by a stupid bug..

"Fortunately" fixing this bug doesn't help much because CDTV CDROM hardware isn't emulated yet. (you only get red CDTV boot screen)

andreas · 09 March 2002, 14:33

Thanks so much @Steve.
Unfortunately, nothing works here (yet).
Aladdin AGA gurus like before, and if I use your unmodified config (except changing the location of the Kickstart ROM) I get this error:

"DirectDraw initialization failed with Unsupported. /-2147467263".

This doesn't happen in windowed mode, but it happens in full-screen mode (the one pre-selected by you).
Pity. I even tried it with the encrypted Cloanto ROM you were using.
However, it boots to Track 19 if I use an 68000 CPU.
Absolutely weird. 68000 + AGA is seldom seen in the Amiga world ...

09 March 2002, 14:36

Quote:

"DirectDraw initialization failed with Unsupported. /-2147467263".

After loading your config, click "detect 16-bit pixel format" once, save it the way it is and then click ok.

edit: You need to do that detection when you change your display driver or use someone else's config. Doing it once and then saving the config solves the problem completely.

Steve · 09 March 2002, 15:19

Also the screenmode I'm using is 720x576. This is a custom (PAL) resolution I have setup which gives the best resolution to play Amiga games on WinUAE. You'll either need to get a program that lets you create and select that resolution (can't remember the name of it now) or just stick with 800x600. Either way that shouldn't make a difference to get Aladdin to work. Try setting immediate blits and switching fast ram to 8MB. Has anyone else managed to get Aladdin to work or is it just me? Incidently I also managed to get Aladdin working on WinUAE 0.8.17!

What is your PC setup andreas. RAM, OS etc.

andreas · 09 March 2002, 15:54

Ok, relevant setup information:
(well I actually HATE these people vying for bragging rights by competing in some silly "best, fastest and most expensive hardware" race)

- Athlon Thunderbird 1.333 GHz
- Jetway 849 BS motherboard
- Win 2000 Service Pack 2
- enough RAM to feel satisfied with
- quite an ancient gfx card
- a SB Live! Value sound card
...

Steve · 09 March 2002, 15:57

Ok. Well my processor is half the speed of yours so I'm wondering if it's something to do with the CPU and Chipset slider. try booting Aladdin at different settings. If that fails then I'm stumped at to what the problem is. The only other major difference is that I'm running WindowsXP. I also have a GeForce II GTS. Good Luck. Here is some motivation for you:

07 March 2002, 20:24	#1
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,526	WinUAE 0.8.21R2 released http://www.winuae.net/ Filesystem fixes, CD32/uaescsi.device fixes, custom chip emulation fixes, hopefully better sound (?) etc...

07 March 2002, 20:37	#2
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	Damn I had work to do tonight, guess that's all out of the window now Keep up the good work Toni

07 March 2002, 21:28	#5
Steve I Identify as an Ewok Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Lincolnshire Age: 45 Posts: 2,356	Conspiracy Theory I'm just a little curious Toni. How come the size of the WinUAE executable has dramatically dropped from 2.71MB (0.8.17r3) to 1.93MB in the latest version. Was there a lot of code not being used or something like that? Also is there going to be an updated help file. I think that's quite overdue. Keep up the good work though Toni. The best thing about this release to me sounds like the CD32 Joypad emulation. I'll go try it out now and see what it's like.

08 March 2002, 15:22	#8
Steve I Identify as an Ewok Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Lincolnshire Age: 45 Posts: 2,356	Small WinUAE 0.8.21r2 Report Ok I've had a bit of a play with it and I'm quite impressed by the latest version. It's a lot better than release 1 anyway. I've found that setting the CPU tab to about 6 or 7 gives a good stable speed with not much slow down. On version 0.8.17 I used to keep the "Fastest Possible" radio button selected and I had perfect speed in every game I played but it doesn't seem to offer fast results in the latest version. It slows the emulation right down in fact. Is that option now redundant? Another thing I've noticed is that the sound isn't as crystal clear as it was. It gives an occasional crackle every few seconds. Could this be a Soundblaster Live issue? I'm running on an Athlon 600 with XP. I was hoping for proper CD32 joypad emulation that uses the sidewinder joypad and is configurable but I'll have to wait a bit longer for that. I managed to get Aladdin AGA to work (boot properly) at last using the latest release which I was very pleased about. Unfortunately it Guru'd before the first level loaded. Has anyone tried Gloom Deluxe out? That's really bizarre. The palette looks all corrupt. Very strange. I'll stick to 0.8.17 for now because I suspect that the latest release demands a faster processor than what I currently have. The games and Workbench appear quite a bit slower on my machine. I'm not moaning by the way. I'm hoping this will help Toni a little bit. I'm really pleased with the CD32 emulation. Top stuff. One more thing before I sign off. Is it possible for a HDF file to become corrupt and get a read error. Because it happened to me yesterday with one of my HDFs. I booted it up and it came up with the read error on sector 5543.... blah. How is that possible? I had a backup though so it wasn't a big disaster.

08 March 2002, 17:58	#10
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 69 Posts: 685	A few incompatibilities to report ... In playing around with WinUAE and trying to create configs for all of my games that actually work, I've run across a few that exhibit problems. I thought I'd pass these along in the hope that the info might be of use in working out the kinks in the emulator. Batman - The Caped Crusader This one was working perfectly under 0.8.17, but under 0.8.21, when it reaches the title screen, both the sound and the graphics are badly corrupted. Faery Tale Adventure This one has been baffling me for a long time. The game works fine, but during the intro (when it's flipping through pages in the book), the sound is VERY scratchy/noisy. When you get past the intro and into the game, the sound is fine. I've tried this one with a number of WinUAE versions, including the 0.8.8 version that so many people swear by, with the same results. With 0.8.21, the problem has actually gotten somewhat better, in that the sound starts to clear up before the intro is finished, but it still starts out sounding really bad. If there's any other information that I can provide that might be helpful in trying to isolate the problem, I'd be happy to do that when I'm at home.

07 March 2002, 20:42	#3
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Thanks again Toni. Keep up the good work. Looking good so far. State of the Art runs as well as it does on Winfellow. Well it does on my PC anyway!

07 March 2002, 20:45	#4
rlake Hittin' the hardware... Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA Age: 44 Posts: 156	Just to let u know that the new code to scan drives and boot the CD works great (well, my config is probably as bad as it gets), am now playing a quick game on Beneath a Steel Sky. Must not play until the early hours, must work... d'oh

08 March 2002, 00:57	#6
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Heyhey New Version works like a charm here, no more Bluesreens as in R1 Keep up the good work Toni !

08 March 2002, 01:17	#7
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	Great work Toni, keep it up @Steve, since Toni mentioned he had re-written and streamlined some of the code, this would be expected. Of course there maybe a point where tweaking the code could also result in a larger file size

08 March 2002, 21:15	#12
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Concord, NC, USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,712	FTA Chuckles.. Well that scratchy sound in the into for Faery Tale Adv is in the original sometimes too.. as a massive fan of FTA, I can say this without doubt

08 March 2002, 22:17	#13
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 69 Posts: 685	@Stainy I don't doubt that, but it doesn't do it when I run it on my real A500 - only when I run it in an emulator. Hmmm, I'll have to see if that affects WinFellow as well - should have done that already.

08 March 2002, 23:25	#14
barkingboy Posts: n/a	Chaos Engine CD32 Under R1, The Chaos Engine CD32 had no sound (except from the CD), now that is fixed in R2 However there is still some graphic corruption in the game (horizontal garbage lines about 1 per screen) , but much much more playable with the fixed sound! CDTV Tony, can you please confirm if CDTV is emulated yet? I have the ROMs from Amiga Forever 5, but get WinUAE error "Error while reading kickstart" when I try!! Regards

09 March 2002, 12:44	#15
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,526	Oops, CDTV Kickstart error is caused by a stupid bug.. "Fortunately" fixing this bug doesn't help much because CDTV CDROM hardware isn't emulated yet. (you only get red CDTV boot screen)

09 March 2002, 14:33	#16
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Thanks so much @Steve. Unfortunately, nothing works here (yet). Aladdin AGA gurus like before, and if I use your unmodified config (except changing the location of the Kickstart ROM) I get this error: "DirectDraw initialization failed with Unsupported. /-2147467263". This doesn't happen in windowed mode, but it happens in full-screen mode (the one pre-selected by you). Pity. I even tried it with the encrypted Cloanto ROM you were using. However, it boots to Track 19 if I use an 68000 CPU. Absolutely weird. 68000 + AGA is seldom seen in the Amiga world ...

09 March 2002, 15:19	#18
Steve I Identify as an Ewok Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Lincolnshire Age: 45 Posts: 2,356	Also the screenmode I'm using is 720x576. This is a custom (PAL) resolution I have setup which gives the best resolution to play Amiga games on WinUAE. You'll either need to get a program that lets you create and select that resolution (can't remember the name of it now) or just stick with 800x600. Either way that shouldn't make a difference to get Aladdin to work. Try setting immediate blits and switching fast ram to 8MB. Has anyone else managed to get Aladdin to work or is it just me? Incidently I also managed to get Aladdin working on WinUAE 0.8.17! What is your PC setup andreas. RAM, OS etc.

09 March 2002, 15:54	#19
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Ok, relevant setup information: (well I actually HATE these people vying for bragging rights by competing in some silly "best, fastest and most expensive hardware" race) - Athlon Thunderbird 1.333 GHz - Jetway 849 BS motherboard - Win 2000 Service Pack 2 - enough RAM to feel satisfied with - quite an ancient gfx card - a SB Live! Value sound card ...

09 March 2002, 15:57	#20
Steve I Identify as an Ewok Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Lincolnshire Age: 45 Posts: 2,356	Ok. Well my processor is half the speed of yours so I'm wondering if it's something to do with the CPU and Chipset slider. try booting Aladdin at different settings. If that fails then I'm stumped at to what the problem is. The only other major difference is that I'm running WindowsXP. I also have a GeForce II GTS. Good Luck. Here is some motivation for you: Attached Thumbnails

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