Amiga Game Crackers

Smiley · 05 March 2005, 22:05

Hi, while playing on my games ive always noticed all the different cracking groups for amiga games. I was wondering how they got away with all this illegal activity, on all the intros they have all these, call our boards (what were these boards??) and come to the next crackers bash :address:. The cracking community seemed immensley large and they seemed to get away scot free. Also without the use of the internet how did these cracked games distribute so easily?

Thanks in advance

Firthy2002 · 05 March 2005, 22:26

Boards = BBSs. Places where crackers would meet, chat & trade.

mr_0rga5m · 05 March 2005, 23:38

Boards / BBS's ... fantastic .. better than all this internet shite.

( £360 for 1 months dialin's (fuckin n00b) .. £0 for the next (l337 discovered 'boxing') )

Amiga1992 · 05 March 2005, 23:42

I never boxed, really. The local BBSes were not great so the real deal was to call international HQs, and since I never boxed I didn't even care.

alexh · 06 March 2005, 01:55

Did boxing ever work in the UK? I kinda know the idea behind it... you use loopholes in the telephone network so you dont get billed... but did they ever work reliably?

Smiley · 06 March 2005, 12:00

Whats boxing?

alexh · 06 March 2005, 13:07

There were a number of phone dongles, bluebox, redbox, whitebox being the most famous. When added between your phone / modem & computer (before the introduction of digital telephone exchanges) they could do something to avoid the call being billed to your home.

I dont know exactly how they worked... or why... or if they were very successfull I just know they used to use them

06 March 2005, 17:03

Many of those games were cracked and distributed even before they were released.
Back in the day I ran a BBS ;-).
Which brings me to a question, I have MANY old games.
I was never really a gamer so these disks have sat boxed up for about 15 years.
I brought them out and thought I'd give some a try.
The question is ... what is required to run them???
My A2000 has an 060 accellerator 3.1 roms.
Do I need to go back to 1.3 roms and pull the accellerator ??

Duke · 06 March 2005, 17:23

For playing the games, you can use WHDLoad and run them from HD, Kickstart 3.1 and the accellerator is no problem then

Amiga1992 · 06 March 2005, 18:30

You could try and search for rarities there and dump them for the rest of us

06 March 2005, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

You could try and search for rarities there and dump them for the rest of us

If this was directed to me, I'm compiling a CD right now.
I don't know how rare any of these games are.
Most of them are DMS files and some have errors now after so many years.
After I'm done in a day or so, maybe I'll put up a list of what I have.
I don't want to have problems with copyright laws.

I shut the BBS down in about 1994 so everything is 94 or older.

Let me know what you think..........

06 March 2005, 20:48

Boxing is phreaking. Which is pretty much hacking the phone system.

The best box was probably a blue box, though these were obsolete in the early 90's. They exploited the 2600Hz frequency (where the mag 2600 got it's name). It was the frequency used to control CCITT trunks (for international calls) so you get free calls.
Steve Wozniak mass produced them and sold them at uni, then made a nice computer

Red box produces the same tones as dropping money into a payphone, giving you free calls. Also obsolete (there are ways around it).

Black box stopped people being charged for calling you.

Many other boxes existed, but nearly all are obsolete, the main aim was to get free calls!

plasmatron · 06 March 2005, 22:54

I used a dialer programm back in 1992. And it worked! Was hanging around for hours on party lines for free.

Methanoid · 06 March 2005, 23:06

0800 890055 anyone

redblade · 07 March 2005, 10:04

ah yes, Chicken dialer 2.05, Arested Dialer workshop 004b, Roxbox 5.72, Roxbox 6.68

sounds like Chile

.

Ah yes party lines,

bitch on the recording 'I've never sucked two cocks at once before'

hahahaha

Although Citibank Venezuela was always hard to break.

But I guess the BSA couldn't really bust postal address's. You'd would have thought they would of teamed up with BT, and busted the BBS Numbers, but I guess that is what the disclaimer was for before you logged in.

Only bbs's I was on was, Beyond Reality, Electric Warrior, Wrath of Kahn.

I could never get onto Sal-ones Boon Docks. And well zolly kicked me from Spaced out cos all i wanted to do was leech old games for 80s -93 era. And sysops don't like leechers

. As if t-files count as 0day amiga uploads

worldlam · 02 January 2009, 03:54

[quote=redblade;185813]ah yes, Chicken dialer 2.05, Arested Dialer workshop 004b, Roxbox 5.72, Roxbox 6.68

Anybody have these programs they could upload to thezone?

Thanks.

03 January 2010, 16:44

also searching for these types of apps to add to my public archive so others wont have such a hard time finding them!!

mattbarton.exe · 05 January 2010, 18:54

Hehe. I remember this stuff. Never got much into building anything, but did enjoy reading the H/P/A files on the local BBSes. I always thought about 99.9% of it was pure and total b.s., but I guess some if it may have been true. I was never able to get free calls, but did find lists of BBSes on 1-800 lines that you could hack into to swap files and chat. They'd usually find out eventually, though, and since they had records of who called them you could get into trouble.

Merlin · 05 January 2010, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

There were a number of phone dongles, bluebox, redbox, whitebox being the most famous. When added between your phone / modem & computer (before the introduction of digital telephone exchanges) they could do something to avoid the call being billed to your home.

I dont know exactly how they worked... or why... or if they were very successfull I just know they used to use them

WOW!!

Something Alexh doesn't know about......

You forgot Roxbox

Ahh, the days of knowing the old AT hayes command set by heart and 38400 baud speeds on US Robotics Diamond Supra modems, (gets all nostalgic.....

)

Ice Station Zebra, Lowlife, Twilight Zone, those were the days; there was a guy not far from me who had a Nintendo BBS...

Back when you could get American 1-800 free phone numbers, it was a lot easier. The idea of 'Blueboxing' was it could send a tone that triggered a dial tone on the old Bell analogue telephone network, from which you could dial into another BBS and it wasn't likely to be traced to you unless you really took the mick.

Since most phone networks are digital these days, I suppose it's nearest equivalent on t'Internet these days is proxy spoofing.

Merlin · 05 January 2010, 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucidphreak

also searching for these types of apps to add to my public archive so others wont have such a hard time finding them!!

**cough**

link

05 March 2005, 22:05	#1
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,350	Amiga Game Crackers Hi, while playing on my games ive always noticed all the different cracking groups for amiga games. I was wondering how they got away with all this illegal activity, on all the intros they have all these, call our boards (what were these boards??) and come to the next crackers bash :address:. The cracking community seemed immensley large and they seemed to get away scot free. Also without the use of the internet how did these cracked games distribute so easily? Thanks in advance

06 March 2005, 17:23	#9
Duke HOL-Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 520	For playing the games, you can use WHDLoad and run them from HD, Kickstart 3.1 and the accellerator is no problem then Last edited by Duke; 06 March 2005 at 17:33.

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05 March 2005, 22:26	#2
Firthy2002 2nd era... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leeds, England Age: 40 Posts: 288	Boards = BBSs. Places where crackers would meet, chat & trade.

05 March 2005, 23:38	#3
mr_0rga5m Tik Gora :D Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Round yo momma's Posts: 1,273	Boards / BBS's ... fantastic .. better than all this internet shite. ( £360 for 1 months dialin's (fuckin n00b) .. £0 for the next (l337 discovered 'boxing') )

05 March 2005, 23:42	#4
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I never boxed, really. The local BBSes were not great so the real deal was to call international HQs, and since I never boxed I didn't even care.

06 March 2005, 01:55	#5
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,342	Did boxing ever work in the UK? I kinda know the idea behind it... you use loopholes in the telephone network so you dont get billed... but did they ever work reliably?

06 March 2005, 12:00	#6
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,350	Whats boxing?

06 March 2005, 13:07	#7
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,342	There were a number of phone dongles, bluebox, redbox, whitebox being the most famous. When added between your phone / modem & computer (before the introduction of digital telephone exchanges) they could do something to avoid the call being billed to your home. I dont know exactly how they worked... or why... or if they were very successfull I just know they used to use them

06 March 2005, 17:03	#8
MelOtt Posts: n/a	Many of those games were cracked and distributed even before they were released. Back in the day I ran a BBS ;-). Which brings me to a question, I have MANY old games. I was never really a gamer so these disks have sat boxed up for about 15 years. I brought them out and thought I'd give some a try. The question is ... what is required to run them??? My A2000 has an 060 accellerator 3.1 roms. Do I need to go back to 1.3 roms and pull the accellerator ??

06 March 2005, 18:30	#10
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	You could try and search for rarities there and dump them for the rest of us

06 March 2005, 20:48	#12
Traquer Posts: n/a	Boxing is phreaking. Which is pretty much hacking the phone system. The best box was probably a blue box, though these were obsolete in the early 90's. They exploited the 2600Hz frequency (where the mag 2600 got it's name). It was the frequency used to control CCITT trunks (for international calls) so you get free calls. Steve Wozniak mass produced them and sold them at uni, then made a nice computer Red box produces the same tones as dropping money into a payphone, giving you free calls. Also obsolete (there are ways around it). Black box stopped people being charged for calling you. Many other boxes existed, but nearly all are obsolete, the main aim was to get free calls!

06 March 2005, 22:54	#13
plasmatron Zone Friend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 967	I used a dialer programm back in 1992. And it worked! Was hanging around for hours on party lines for free.

06 March 2005, 23:06	#14
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,873	0800 890055 anyone

07 March 2005, 10:04	#15
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	ah yes, Chicken dialer 2.05, Arested Dialer workshop 004b, Roxbox 5.72, Roxbox 6.68 sounds like Chile . Ah yes party lines, bitch on the recording 'I've never sucked two cocks at once before' hahahaha Although Citibank Venezuela was always hard to break. But I guess the BSA couldn't really bust postal address's. You'd would have thought they would of teamed up with BT, and busted the BBS Numbers, but I guess that is what the disclaimer was for before you logged in. Only bbs's I was on was, Beyond Reality, Electric Warrior, Wrath of Kahn. I could never get onto Sal-ones Boon Docks. And well zolly kicked me from Spaced out cos all i wanted to do was leech old games for 80s -93 era. And sysops don't like leechers . As if t-files count as 0day amiga uploads

02 January 2009, 03:54	#16
worldlam Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14	[quote=redblade;185813]ah yes, Chicken dialer 2.05, Arested Dialer workshop 004b, Roxbox 5.72, Roxbox 6.68 Anybody have these programs they could upload to thezone? Thanks.

03 January 2010, 16:44	#17
lucidphreak Posts: n/a	also searching for these types of apps to add to my public archive so others wont have such a hard time finding them!!

05 January 2010, 18:54	#18
mattbarton.exe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St Cloud, MN/USA Posts: 328	Hehe. I remember this stuff. Never got much into building anything, but did enjoy reading the H/P/A files on the local BBSes. I always thought about 99.9% of it was pure and total b.s., but I guess some if it may have been true. I was never able to get free calls, but did find lists of BBSes on 1-800 lines that you could hack into to swap files and chat. They'd usually find out eventually, though, and since they had records of who called them you could get into trouble.

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