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Old 01 February 2019, 19:03   #61
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Puyo Puyo 2 is more dynamic and have better graphics than Minskies Furballs.

About Moon Patrol i must confirm that ST version is better than arcade one.
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Old 01 February 2019, 20:27   #62
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Puyo Puyo 2 is more dynamic and have better graphics than Minskies Furballs.

About Moon Patrol i must confirm that ST version is better than arcade one.
Really? Minskies was available as ECS and AGA graphics
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Old 01 February 2019, 20:42   #63
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Time Pilot
Tima Pilot... man...
I remember Time Pilot on my C64.
It was very hard, and very awesome game. I got to the aliens level, and could not beat it!
Didn't know Amiga had no port.

I see here people also mention Rolling Thunder.
I haven't played it on Amiga (I saw it on youtube... yikes! ), and also, if I recall it correctly, C64 had great version of Rolling Thunder.
I remember, as a kid, it was also very hard, but it was one of the rare games that gives that "arcade feel" on the C64 (like Express Rider, and similar games).
I have to check now C64 Rolling Thunder on Youtube.
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Old 01 February 2019, 20:50   #64
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Some of the games that I allocated for you (In Alphabetical order):
Battlezone
Choplifter
Crystal Castles
Joust
Millipede
Pole Position II
Robotron 2084
Star Raiders
Super Breakout
Tempest

Of course there are many other, which I am not able (too lazy) to list now, but I think the above list is pretty good for a start.
There are some arcade games that were officially ported to 8-bit Atari computers (with dubious quality), but not to the Amiga.
Thanks a lot, but I have problem with Choplifter and PolePosition II - are you sure that theese games exists on Atari ST ?
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Old 01 February 2019, 20:52   #65
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Joust has some decent attempt: "Jouster 3", freeware.
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Old 01 February 2019, 20:59   #66
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I still play Moon Patrol on Mame. The 3 games I mentioned are among the games I most play on Mame when I am playing on my own (Add New Rally-X too)

With friends around fighting games are more popular.
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Old 01 February 2019, 22:06   #67
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My suggestion Super pang , easily adaptable to Amiga.Amiga have first version pang.I wrote S.pang game for amiga with amiga c language.I have tested .its not bad .But it is better to be assembly language.


i call name " RUN RUN PANGI PONGI " below video


[ Show youtube player ]




I'm dealed Sega game Super Fantasy Zone.But I took a break.i used assembly language.



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Generally the arcade ports are adapted hard to amiga.but mcgeezer doing it successfully.
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Old 01 February 2019, 22:15   #68
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Yeah, NBA Jam is sooooo good

I purchasing this on the SNES and had loads of fun playing this with friends using the 4 joystick adapter



Regarding these Capcom CPS1 games; doubt an Amiga could really do them TBH. There would have to be massive compromises; and even still...
CPS1 & CPS1 QSOUND or CPS2 are possible, but with a programmer able to process the arcade code with a tool in order to dismantle each parts.

And A1200-4000 with tons of fast ram + Hard drive mandatory !
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Old 01 February 2019, 22:46   #69
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Why would we need a Robotron port on the Amiga when we have Llamatron?
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Old 01 February 2019, 22:49   #70
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Thanks a lot, but I have problem with Choplifter and PolePosition II - are you sure that theese games exists on Atari ST ?
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https://ataricrypt.blogspot.com/2017...-position.html

Pole Position would be nice on the Amiga, but based on the original arcade game, not on the STe code.
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Old 01 February 2019, 22:54   #71
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I have worked out quite an amount of data tilemaps inside Blood Bros Code.

Very interesting
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Old 01 February 2019, 23:22   #72
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Reminds me Pitstop II on C64.
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Old 01 February 2019, 23:25   #73
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Reminds me Pitstop II on C64.
Yes, but I am not sure if raw A500 1MB can reproduce the full awesomeness of this port:

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Runs at a 60fps to bring the speed and difficulty in line with the arcade game.
You can thank the Blitter chip for whizzing the graphics so furiously!
Sprite scaling utilisied for that arcade feel for ultra-smooth results.
Even good 'ol Mount Fuji is displayed in all its glory!
The sky gradient is back along with numerous fixed graphical and audio glitches.
Sound effects are taken from the arcade machine and played using DMA coprocessor.
Code compiled with GCC 7.1 for a significant performance increase.
Many optimisations are made, mainly around text rendering for authenticity.
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Anyway is the source code even available?
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Old 02 February 2019, 01:00   #75
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Get 2 Atari 2600 joysticks and glue them to a table.

Thinking about Robotron controls some more, most modern gamepads have 2 analog controllers in the PS2 manner. Thus, it might work as an option for emulation.


As for Amiga hardware users, they can use this setup.
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Old 02 February 2019, 09:10   #76
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How about ASSAULT, with dual joystick support? :-D
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Old 02 February 2019, 14:55   #77
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Pole Position would be nice on the Amiga, but based on the original arcade game, not on the STe code.
Hi everyone, I'm the author of the STE Pole Position conversion.

Just to clear up any possible misconceptions, this conversion is based upon a reverse engineering of the arcade game logic, so the gameplay should be a close replica of that featured in the arcade game.

I've had to write the graphics and sound engine from the ground up to take advantage of the strengths/quirks/weaknesses of the STE. This is something that would also need to be done for the Amiga.

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Anyway is the source code even available?
I assume you were referring to Pole Position STE in this comment - apologies if this is not the case.

To answer your question, the ST-specific parts of the codebase are not available to the public, although I would be more than happy to hand over the code to somebody with the time and inclination to port it over to the Amiga.

The non-ST parts of the code (i.e. the reverse engineering of the Pole Position game logic) are available to the public, as part of the "ppengine" project to create a modern 3D accelerated port of Pole Position.

You can find this at https://github.com/jonathanopalise/ppengine
 
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Yes, I meant Pole Position. Great! since we don't need the ST parts.
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Old 02 February 2019, 17:21   #79
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Well, I feel, if some games would never been released on Amiga (Mortal Kombat 2, Setllers, Ruff'n'Tumble...) many people would claim today that it wouldn't be possible to make a port (or with huge compromises).
Actually I wouldn't say that about any of those three games you mentioned. They all look pretty doable.


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Who needs parallax for the proper gameplay?
I'd say, remove parallax, make sprites smaller, and it's possible to make awesome beat em up for OCS.
Well, with these lessened requirements off course you could port almost any game from that era....

Here comes the formula:
Give up the parallax, reduce colours to 32 and then reduce the frame count to whatever works with the amount of blits you need to do.

Every now and then load stuff from disk if you can't keep everything in RAM.

Bam, this will surely be an amazing arcade port.
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Since my 4000 probably wont be a happy camper for a long time yet, I'll suggest something I was thinking of trying myself: 1942.

It just so happens to use 32 colours...
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