4 way buffered IDE adaptor ???

piemmeweb · 03 October 2009, 23:58

Hello,
I heard that there is a special cable that can connect 3 ide hard drives to the single socket of the amiga 4000... it's name is "4 way buffered IDE adaptor" ... anybody can supply a schematic of that cable and if it ineed a special driver?

thanks a lot

prowler · 04 October 2009, 00:24

Hi piemmeweb,

It's rather more than a cable, because of the buffering that it incorporates. You can obtain one of these for €20 here:
http://www.worldlink.it/s-cube/idesplitter.html
It can be used with IDEFix software.

Photon · 04 October 2009, 00:35

--> "Price: 39.000 lire (20 Euro)."

Hehe, lire and yen are always funny to me. Must suck to be a millionaire in Italy and Japan

Photon · 04 October 2009, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

--> "Price: 39.000 lire (20 Euro)."

Hehe, lire and yen are always funny to me. Must suck to be a millionaire in Italy and Japan

piemme: you also need to check that the IDE drives tolerate each other on the same channel - if you can, see if they like each other on a PC with IDE.

Mostly it's harddisks and optical drives that are primadonnas, I think.

prowler · 04 October 2009, 00:40

I got worried when I saw the price in Lire. I hope the site still works for piemmeweb. The 'Order Now' link worked for me. It will be better if he can get it locally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photon

piemme: you also need to check that the IDE drives tolerate each other on the same channel - if you can, see if they like each other on a PC with IDE.

Mostly it's harddisks and optical drives that are primadonnas, I think.

That problem is not an optional extra with these IDE splitters, I'm afraid, but a necessary evil.

piemmeweb · 04 October 2009, 11:01

Thanks to all for the info

Because the price is still in LIRE, probabily the site doesn't still works...

I already have 80GB HDD + DVD-ROM in my amiga 4000, I'd like to add a ZIP but I don't know if it works or not... The 80GB is MASTER, the DVDROM is slave, the ZIP would be??? or need to setup all as a CABLE SELECT?

alexh · 04 October 2009, 11:19

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=532

€14.81

meega · 04 October 2009, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemmeweb

... the ZIP would be???

On the other channel. A 4-way adapter gives two IDE channels, each can have two devices.

piemmeweb · 04 October 2009, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by meega

On the other channel. A 4-way adapter gives two IDE channels, each can have two devices.

that's ok, I understand now, thanks

prowler · 04 October 2009, 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemmeweb

Because the price is still in LIRE, probabily the site doesn't still works...

Maybe the price in Lire has been left there for reference? I was able to get the "Order Now" link to work, so maybe the site's OK.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemmeweb

I already have 80GB HDD + DVD-ROM in my amiga 4000, I'd like to add a ZIP but I don't know if it works or not... The 80GB is MASTER, the DVDROM is slave, the ZIP would be??? or need to setup all as a CABLE SELECT?

The IDE splitter gives you a second channel for connecting another two devices - one as master and/or one as slave. No need for Cable Select.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=532

€14.81

This item, together with the similar EIDE99 at Vesalia, does not mention compatibility with the A4000, whereas the IDE splitter from the Italian site does. Is there actually any difference between them as regards this? They all appear to be very similar devices.

piemmeweb · 04 October 2009, 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=532

€14.81

thanks for info, but It will works on amiga4000 + idefix'97?

alexh · 04 October 2009, 11:35

Sorry that was the wrong item

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=599

€20.51

piemmeweb · 04 October 2009, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Maybe the price in Lire has been left there for reference? I was able to get the "Order Now" link to work, so maybe the site's OK.

The last update is 24 Aug 1999 , I tried to place an order but the form doesn't works properly on the send...

prowler · 04 October 2009, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemmeweb

thanks for info, but It will works on amiga4000 + idefix'97?

I suggest you have a look at the readme docs in the IDEFix'97 archive on Aminet:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/IDEfix97
Only "your Amiga" is mentioned regarding compatibility, so maybe it's meant to be universal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Sorry that was the wrong item

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=599

€20.51

That's more like it!

piemmeweb · 04 October 2009, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Maybe the price in Lire has been left there for reference? I was able to get the "Order Now" link to work, so maybe the site's OK.

Received now a failure notice from MAILER-DAEMON, the email address had a permanent error, so I assume that I cannot buy it

alexh · 04 October 2009, 11:45

Use AmigaKit, you pay a premium but their service is second to non.

Fingerlickin_B · 04 October 2009, 11:45

From IDEFix'97 doc:

"Amiga IDE port (A600, A1200, A4000, A4000T)"

All good

PZ.

piemmeweb · 04 October 2009, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

That's more like it!

wow! that's what I'm looking for!!! seem that it have not electronic parts, so i can build it myself... but how to find the connections schematic?

piemmeweb · 04 October 2009, 11:50

I found a solution (on italian website

)
http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/amig...o_01/4ide.html

it's on aminet, called IDE-DOUBLER
http://aminet.net/docs/hard/4IDE.lha

alexh · 04 October 2009, 11:57

I think I'd rather pay €20 than risk destroying the IDE port on my A4000D

03 October 2009, 23:58	#1
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04 October 2009, 00:24	#2
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi piemmeweb, It's rather more than a cable, because of the buffering that it incorporates. You can obtain one of these for €20 here: http://www.worldlink.it/s-cube/idesplitter.html It can be used with IDEFix software.

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04 October 2009, 11:01	#6
piemmeweb Commodore Lover Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 128	Thanks to all for the info Because the price is still in LIRE, probabily the site doesn't still works... I already have 80GB HDD + DVD-ROM in my amiga 4000, I'd like to add a ZIP but I don't know if it works or not... The 80GB is MASTER, the DVDROM is slave, the ZIP would be??? or need to setup all as a CABLE SELECT?

04 October 2009, 11:19	#7
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=532 €14.81

04 October 2009, 11:35	#12
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Sorry that was the wrong item http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=599 €20.51

04 October 2009, 11:45	#16
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Use AmigaKit, you pay a premium but their service is second to non.

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Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	From IDEFix'97 doc: "Amiga IDE port (A600, A1200, A4000, A4000T)" All good PZ.

04 October 2009, 11:50	#19
piemmeweb Commodore Lover Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 128	I found a solution (on italian website ) http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/amig...o_01/4ide.html it's on aminet, called IDE-DOUBLER http://aminet.net/docs/hard/4IDE.lha

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alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	I think I'd rather pay €20 than risk destroying the IDE port on my A4000D

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