Whdload, ACA500 Plus and Cannon Fodder - Page 2

Galahad/FLT · 17 June 2018, 23:21

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Originally Posted by jotd

list the non-AGA whdload slaves that need more than 1MB chip for ECS slaves?

I don't see a justification apart from Primal Rage.

EDIT: I could scan the slaves myself, I have built some python tools to analyse whdload slaves.

Cannon Fodder was a very old install of mine, about the second or third one I ever did, and in all honesty I didnt understand everything that WHDLoad did at the time which meant I didnt uses the expmem function.

Ive actually updated it this week now that I have mantis reports coming through again, chipmem requirements are now 1meg and the extra $10000 is handled by expmem, and also fixed install directory and put in 68000 quit key.

Superman · 18 June 2018, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

list the non-AGA whdload slaves that need more than 1MB chip for ECS slaves?

I don't see a justification apart from Primal Rage.

EDIT: I could scan the slaves myself, I have built some python tools to analyse whdload slaves.

Whizkid and The Settlers are 2 I can think of unless they have been updated recently.

Galahad/FLT · 18 June 2018, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Superman

Whizkid and The Settlers are 2 I can think of unless they have been updated recently.

Wizkid has just been updated, expect it on WHDLOAD.DE anytime soon.

Memory requirements reduced and 68000 quit key added.

StingRay · 18 June 2018, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Superman

Whizkid and The Settlers are 2 I can think of unless they have been updated recently.

Settlers patch doesn't need more than 1 MB chip memory.

jotd · 18 June 2018, 23:28

so it seems this was all Galahad's fault

Galahad/FLT · 19 June 2018, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

so it seems this was all Galahad's fault

Yeah pretty much....... read the fucking documentation

But I don't know about anyone else, but when I started doing WHDLoad installs, there was never much consideration for 68000 users, its only later that there was a call for installs to be compatible, most of the early stuff was catered toward AGA and big box Amigas.

Retroplay · 19 June 2018, 13:21

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Wizkid has just been updated, expect it on WHDLOAD.DE anytime soon.

It seems the install script went AWOL in the latest installer package.
Slave works works great if copied to an already installed game.

turrican9 · 26 February 2020, 14:09

So the only OCS/ECS whdload game left that requires 2MB chip is Sensible World of soccer? I have an HD install version of this game which should not suffer from the famous slowdowns. But there are many whdload versions of sensible world of soccer so would be nice to have all these work with 1MB chip and no slowdowns.

I know I had slowdowns on both my ACA 620 and 2MB chip A600 and Furia 2MB chip A600. I think it worked fine on my ACA 1233 based A1200 though?

So any progress in this matter? And are there any other OCS/ECS whdload games except SWOS which hasn't been updated to run on 1MB chip yet?

Edit: Also, are there any of the ECS/OCS whdload games that would get any extra features by having 2MB chip, even if they will start with 1MB chip? Like extra sound effects or etc.?

dlfrsilver · 26 February 2020, 15:57

the very latest slave for Cannon Fodder use all the languages UK,FR,DE,IT.

Please Big supes, upgrade your installed game.

dreadnought · 26 February 2020, 16:21

Yesterday I tried to run Fusion on my A500/ACA500+ and it hanged up with a black screen. I think I had all the memory enabled (also tried on 7Hz). I'm very new to this stuff, any idea why it might not be working?

turrican9 · 26 February 2020, 16:37

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Originally Posted by dreadnought

Yesterday I tried to run Fusion on my A500/ACA500+ and it hanged up with a black screen. I think I had all the memory enabled (also tried on 7Hz). I'm very new to this stuff, any idea why it might not be working?

I just tested it on my A500 with 1MB chip, Regular (Not plus) ACA 500 combined with my ACA 1221 overclocked to 28MHz and 64MB fast RAM. Works fine here.

How much chip RAM you have available?

dreadnought · 26 February 2020, 17:04

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Originally Posted by turrican9

How much chip RAM you have available?

Thanks for trying. I'm not 100% sure. I have 512kb trapdoor extension, Amiga is rev6 ECS with the appropriate (for 1MB chip ram) Agnus chip.

In ACA menu I have "1MB fast ram" set to On and "1MB chip extension" set to On. Game shows the initial WHDLoad screen then goes dark.

turrican9 · 27 February 2020, 13:47

So there is one more game I forgot about. Dungeon Master 2 requires 1.5MB chip. It is listed as an AGA game but will run on an ECS machine with enough chip.

So then I know about two OCS/ECS whdload games that requires more than 1MB chip. SWOS and Dungeon Master 2. As mentioned above, Cannon Fodder and Wizkid have later versions which will run on 1MB chip.

Any other games I have missed?

26 February 2020, 14:09	#28
turrican9 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Norway Age: 47 Posts: 893	So the only OCS/ECS whdload game left that requires 2MB chip is Sensible World of soccer? I have an HD install version of this game which should not suffer from the famous slowdowns. But there are many whdload versions of sensible world of soccer so would be nice to have all these work with 1MB chip and no slowdowns. I know I had slowdowns on both my ACA 620 and 2MB chip A600 and Furia 2MB chip A600. I think it worked fine on my ACA 1233 based A1200 though? So any progress in this matter? And are there any other OCS/ECS whdload games except SWOS which hasn't been updated to run on 1MB chip yet? Edit: Also, are there any of the ECS/OCS whdload games that would get any extra features by having 2MB chip, even if they will start with 1MB chip? Like extra sound effects or etc.? Last edited by turrican9; 26 February 2020 at 15:01.

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18 June 2018, 23:28	#25
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,163	so it seems this was all Galahad's fault

26 February 2020, 15:57	#29
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	the very latest slave for Cannon Fodder use all the languages UK,FR,DE,IT. Please Big supes, upgrade your installed game.

26 February 2020, 16:21	#30
dreadnought Registered User Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Ur, Atlantis Posts: 1,899	Yesterday I tried to run Fusion on my A500/ACA500+ and it hanged up with a black screen. I think I had all the memory enabled (also tried on 7Hz). I'm very new to this stuff, any idea why it might not be working?

27 February 2020, 13:47	#33
turrican9 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Norway Age: 47 Posts: 893	So there is one more game I forgot about. Dungeon Master 2 requires 1.5MB chip. It is listed as an AGA game but will run on an ECS machine with enough chip. So then I know about two OCS/ECS whdload games that requires more than 1MB chip. SWOS and Dungeon Master 2. As mentioned above, Cannon Fodder and Wizkid have later versions which will run on 1MB chip. Any other games I have missed?

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