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Old 22 November 2014, 04:11   #201
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Anything that has been shown to work in any capacity is clearly not vaporware.
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Old 22 November 2014, 12:33   #202
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There has to be said that a distinction between vapourware and "real" products exists.

Natami was/is real, just like Elbox Dragon was.

They simply haven't made it to market. Be it for a decision of their creators, for a lack of time, because it didn't work as expected or maybe because they got bored of it.

Thus, nobody here is saying that what the Apollo Team (or even Thomas Hirsch!) wasn't real. Just that shipping a REAL product takes age and that it might never happen even if there are working prototypes somewhere.

Vapourware instead is just something that exists in someone's mind but doesn't exist in any form

That said, good luck to everyone making new hardware, especially the Apollo Team
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Old 22 November 2014, 19:02   #203
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Thomas Hirsch is still on speaking terms with the Apollo team. Who says that the Natami is vapor?
OK is not vapor but after years in the same state seems like vapor, anyway is more exciting a fpga accelerator for amiga than this project.
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Old 11 December 2014, 22:31   #204
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Old 12 December 2014, 18:54   #205
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Any News?
Nothing official. We're still working on it. Bug fixes and features are being discussed and developed.
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Old 12 December 2014, 19:32   #206
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"The boards are in production/shipment.
We expect to receive them this week."

^^^^

In JUNE 2014

... 2015 January a few days away... zipshit nothing.



Please clean this vapourware trash of the forum. Its wastes time you never get back reading people you didn't took for liars when you clicked the thread - And you notice the names are always the same, jumping from fraudulent vapourware "project" to the other.

Or maybe they just used the slowest mail service in the planet! SIX EFFIN' MONTHS to ship to your home.

HE CLAIMED HE WAS GOING TO RECEIVE PRODUCTION BOARDS THAT VERY WEEK!

Is this turning into one of those banana dancing boards where weirdos who can barely speak english yammer about new "amiga" hardware in two more weeks?

EAB didn't use to be like that.
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Old 12 December 2014, 20:20   #207
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"The boards are in production/shipment.
We expect to receive them this week."

^^^^

In JUNE 2014

... 2015 January a few days away... zipshit nothing.



Please clean this vapourware trash of the forum. Its wastes time you never get back reading people you didn't took for liars when you clicked the thread - And you notice the names are always the same, jumping from fraudulent vapourware "project" to the other.

Or maybe they just used the slowest mail service in the planet! SIX EFFIN' MONTHS to ship to your home.

HE CLAIMED HE WAS GOING TO RECEIVE PRODUCTION BOARDS THAT VERY WEEK!

Is this turning into one of those banana dancing boards where weirdos who can barely speak english yammer about new "amiga" hardware in two more weeks?

EAB didn't use to be like that.
Which are you referring to? Apollo boards or fpga arcade?
I don't recall any direct announcement regarding the apollo boards and a release date. 2014 may have been mooted though. 2015 seems more realistic. Let's hope they can do it and there are not any major hiccups along the way.
Natami? Forget about it. if something surfaces in time then well and good, if not then meh.
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Old 12 December 2014, 22:10   #208
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the last info i have is there a pretty nasty bug that needs to be fixed so its pretty hard to give a completion date for the apollo core
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Old 13 December 2014, 12:52   #209
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"The boards are in production/shipment.
We expect to receive them this week."
(snip crap)
Production/shipment to the developers. Not to users.

Grow up.
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Old 13 December 2014, 14:42   #210
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weirdos who can barely speak english yammer about new "amiga" hardware in two more weeks?
Not everyone is English native, in fact English is native for approx only 360mln people - quite curious how many of native English people can speak just barely in different than English language.

But skip this part...

As You are 39 year old You should be able to behave like adult, mature person not spoiled kid.

Side to this FYI - this kind of project are expensive and big - as Amiga community is small it is clear that it is very difficult to make big profit on Amiga products (probably most of Amiga companies are barely able to not lose money - Ask Jens about his private yachts ).

It is common that those projects are long with high risk of failure - even today with low prices for electronic technology (yes, for last 30 years availability for decent cheap EDA tools and cheap components) made possible for amateur to have hobby like this even with this kind of designs.

I assume that financial support will be appreciated - You can offer money donation - i assume few 10k E will speed up design process.

TIA!

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Old 29 July 2015, 16:40   #211
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movep being supported now:
http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=4&note=3200
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Old 29 July 2015, 16:45   #212
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Which is a proof that, during all that time, it was perfectly doable - and that its cost isn't as high as some said.
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Old 30 July 2015, 11:09   #213
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So far it is just someone posting that it is supported on some web board, not exactly proof.
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Old 30 July 2015, 11:26   #214
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So far it is just someone posting that it is supported on some web board, not exactly proof.
That "someone" is the main author of the bloody thing.
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Just to clear up any ambiguity (and doubts), the Full Apollo core is up and running on the new test boards, there are still bugs to be ironed out and the Vampire is getting an upgrade so that all releases on all Amigas will be compatible with each other, there is no point in trying to support multiple cores.
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Old 30 July 2015, 13:01   #216
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the Vampire is getting an upgrade
They have managed to squeeze it into the original Vampire board?
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Old 31 July 2015, 10:55   #217
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They have managed to squeeze it into the original Vampire board?
I doubt it very much, but who says they can't have a scaled down -but still improved- version in the old Vampire...
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Old 31 July 2015, 11:19   #218
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That "someone" is the main author of the bloody thing.
Did you know that North Korea just landed a guy on Saturn? It was North Korea themselves who announced it, so I guess it must be true.
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Old 31 July 2015, 11:23   #219
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Is there a list of people who are (or preparing to) develop accelerator cards based on this? I know there is the Vampire card but was wondering if there are any more?
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Old 31 July 2015, 11:37   #220
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Did you know that North Korea just landed a guy on Saturn? It was North Korea themselves who announced it, so I guess it must be true.
USA did land guys on the Moon. They announced this themselves. But maybe it's wrong ?

Sorry, but if Gunnar says MOVEP is there, then it has many chances of being there, because he was originally against implementing it so he has no reason to lie !
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