Question over DID old game titles ?

22 November 2005, 17:18

I'm arguing with a friend of mine over which one of those titles from digital image design first used a copy protection dongle ...

He says it was as soon as 1989 with F29 Retaliator or Robocop 3 (he doesn't remember precisely).
I say it was not until Epic, 3 years later.

Am I correct ? Or is he ? (and if so, which title among F29 and Robocop was it ?)
I may be wrong because of Inferno (Epic sequel on PC) which was "play protected"

) (damn I was so disappointed back then ...)

Thanks for any help

superquake · 22 November 2005, 17:32

I believe it was Robocop 3

sarek2k · 22 November 2005, 17:38

yeah it was robocop 3 and it was defeated before the game hit the shops

kriz · 22 November 2005, 17:50

Robocop 3 was released in 92 btw

So you were right about the year atleast..

IFW · 22 November 2005, 19:35

F29 had a Copylock protection, not dongle.

Galahad/FLT · 22 November 2005, 21:13

F29 had a special Copylock protection track

It didn't show up at all in a warper.

I think Turbo Slug/Quartex did F29 for DID

X-ray · 23 November 2005, 02:08

The F29 copy protection was so fussy that the game didn't work in the A500 pack that it was bundled for (the first pack I got). It was the only title that didn't work, and it was a must-have for me. The plane would take off and a certain amount of time into the game it would just explode. Kept the game, exchanged the A500 and it was fine after that.

Captain_ Kal · 23 November 2005, 12:07

Yes. It was Robocop 3. And I bought the pirate version first and then the boxed one.

F-29 and EPIC, had no hardware protection. According to a review that I had read at Amiga Format (I think), the leaked pirate version was a beta version, and the dongle was an experiment by Ocean that published the game, at the time.

And I don't think Inferno,had any copy protection.(At least the CD version I bought a few years back.

. You can still play it. Home of the Underdogs, have the disk version, and it's fully playable with DosBox

)

23 November 2005, 16:35

Woaw, that's what I called precised answers, thanks to you all.

I might have indeed been confused about the game/year

Zetr0 · 24 November 2005, 08:23

Ahhhh robocop 3.... yeah that dongle was sooooo easy to defeat.. grabbed an external connecting numeric keypad (i got it for 50p in a bargin bin in 1990) choped the end off and plumbed it up to the joyport.... i then got some celotape and polystrene and held down the numbers 189 (or atleast i think it was that).. and HEY presto

Game on!!!!!!

now before you think OMG what a lucky guess i dissasembled the dongle first and low and behold it was using the same chip as the one in the numberic keypad, i knowted what lines where grounded and 2 mins with a binary output i was able to tell what numbers where pressed.. in hex lol

ahhh those were the days.... cracking BSB and Sky.... i remember the look on my parents face when i dupped their sky card (series 7/8 i believe) using the serial port on my amiga

))... mmmm gotta love hardware.....

hey did i ever tell you about the time when i made a par-laplink cable from guitar wire?????......
....

22 November 2005, 17:18	#1
Celluloïd Posts: n/a	Question over DID old game titles ? I'm arguing with a friend of mine over which one of those titles from digital image design first used a copy protection dongle ... He says it was as soon as 1989 with F29 Retaliator or Robocop 3 (he doesn't remember precisely). I say it was not until Epic, 3 years later. Am I correct ? Or is he ? (and if so, which title among F29 and Robocop was it ?) I may be wrong because of Inferno (Epic sequel on PC) which was "play protected" ) (damn I was so disappointed back then ...) Thanks for any help

23 November 2005, 12:07	#8
Captain_ Kal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 54 Posts: 157	Yes. It was Robocop 3. And I bought the pirate version first and then the boxed one. F-29 and EPIC, had no hardware protection. According to a review that I had read at Amiga Format (I think), the leaked pirate version was a beta version, and the dongle was an experiment by Ocean that published the game, at the time. And I don't think Inferno,had any copy protection.(At least the CD version I bought a few years back.. You can still play it. Home of the Underdogs, have the disk version, and it's fully playable with DosBox )

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22 November 2005, 17:32	#2
superquake Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 76	I believe it was Robocop 3

22 November 2005, 17:38	#3
sarek2k E.A.B Addict and Proud Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 56 Posts: 543	yeah it was robocop 3 and it was defeated before the game hit the shops

22 November 2005, 17:50	#4
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	Robocop 3 was released in 92 btw So you were right about the year atleast..

22 November 2005, 19:35	#5
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	F29 had a Copylock protection, not dongle.

22 November 2005, 21:13	#6
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	F29 had a special Copylock protection track It didn't show up at all in a warper. I think Turbo Slug/Quartex did F29 for DID

23 November 2005, 02:08	#7
X-ray Angry Kid Fan Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London Posts: 230	The F29 copy protection was so fussy that the game didn't work in the A500 pack that it was bundled for (the first pack I got). It was the only title that didn't work, and it was a must-have for me. The plane would take off and a certain amount of time into the game it would just explode. Kept the game, exchanged the A500 and it was fine after that.

23 November 2005, 16:35	#9
Celluloïd Posts: n/a	Woaw, that's what I called precised answers, thanks to you all. I might have indeed been confused about the game/year

24 November 2005, 08:23	#10
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Ahhhh robocop 3.... yeah that dongle was sooooo easy to defeat.. grabbed an external connecting numeric keypad (i got it for 50p in a bargin bin in 1990) choped the end off and plumbed it up to the joyport.... i then got some celotape and polystrene and held down the numbers 189 (or atleast i think it was that).. and HEY presto Game on!!!!!! now before you think OMG what a lucky guess i dissasembled the dongle first and low and behold it was using the same chip as the one in the numberic keypad, i knowted what lines where grounded and 2 mins with a binary output i was able to tell what numbers where pressed.. in hex lol ahhh those were the days.... cracking BSB and Sky.... i remember the look on my parents face when i dupped their sky card (series 7/8 i believe) using the serial port on my amiga ))... mmmm gotta love hardware..... hey did i ever tell you about the time when i made a par-laplink cable from guitar wire?????...... ....

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