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Old 24 November 2016, 10:54   #21
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@Foul the problem is there are no (so far as I know) CHDs for those particular games.
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Old 24 November 2016, 11:01   #22
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Toni, I didn't think you would be interested in going to the trouble of adding laserdisc emulation and video playback facilities just to enable these games to be played. I just wanted to thank you, as Mad Dog 1 & 2 are two of my favourite games ever.

If we could obtain a dump of them and get them into a playable state that would be incredible.
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Old 24 November 2016, 11:06   #23
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I've found a YouTube rip of the laserdisc of the ALG game Gallagher's Gallery, if it's any help someone (I guess I could if there are no volunteers?) could download the video and slice off the second or so at the start. No luck finding Mad Dog McCree etc so far.

[ Show youtube player ]
Wouldn't it be easier to search for the dvd/3do/cdi version of MDM? Wouldn't the video already be split into the correct sections on the disc?
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Old 24 November 2016, 11:09   #24
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Wouldn't it be easier to search for the dvd/3do/cdi version of MDM? Wouldn't the video already be split into the correct sections on the disc?
I thought about that, I guess the answer is maybe but absolutely no guarantee.
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Old 24 November 2016, 11:13   #25
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I think the CD-i version uses MPEG1 video, maybe the best way to test, before changing to cdxl if thats what you had planned?, if WinUAE supports FMV support?
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Old 24 November 2016, 11:30   #26
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The old DOS PC version is using Mpg 1 videos ! 352x240 and for audio : mp2 / 224 kbps / 48Kz

Easy to import and use

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Old 24 November 2016, 11:50   #27
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Toni, I didn't think you would be interested in going to the trouble of adding laserdisc emulation and video playback facilities just to enable these games to be played. I just wanted to thank you, as Mad Dog 1 & 2 are two of my favourite games ever.

If we could obtain a dump of them and get them into a playable state that would be incredible.
I normally would not have cared but genlock video emulation exists and LD commands are very simple (play from frame x, report current frame, pause etc..). Genlock video stuff does the playback and transparency automatically.

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I think the CD-i version uses MPEG1 video, maybe the best way to test, before changing to cdxl if thats what you had planned?, if WinUAE supports FMV support?
Genlock video uses Windows codecs, any supported video format should work.

Only problem is frame position that needs to match what game expects.
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Old 24 November 2016, 12:06   #28
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This all sounds very exciting! I loved playing Maddog Mcree in the arcades back in the day... I also never knew it was running on Amiga hardware?!
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Old 24 November 2016, 12:28   #29
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Not to get ahead of ourselves, more a info post, according to System 16, these AML games used Amiga boards as well;

Gallaghers Gallery - 1992
Mad Dog McCree - 1990
Mad Dog II : The Lost Gold - 1992
Space Pirates - 1990
Who Shot Johnny Rock - 1991

Even says Amiga Computers on this poster!
http://www.flyerfever.com/post/98445...ot-johnny-rock

Atari games, but Amiga computer!
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Old 24 November 2016, 12:32   #30
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You missed some, all of them are listed in MAME source linked above. All of them use practically identical hardware.

EDIT: I have already collected all game roms to single package. I can upload it later today if needed.

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Old 24 November 2016, 12:51   #31
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You missed some, all of them are listed in MAME source linked above. All of them use practically identical hardware.

EDIT: I have already collected all game roms to single package. I can upload it later today if needed.
Oh yeah thanks, i'll post the list here for those who didn't see it;

Mad Dog McCree [3 versions]
Who Shot Johnny Rock? [2 versions]
Mad Dog II: The Lost Gold [2 versions]
Space Pirates
Gallagher's Gallery
Crime Patrol
Crime Patrol 2: Drug Wars [2 versions]
The Last Bounty Hunter
Fast Draw Showdown
Platoon
Zorton Brothers (Los Justicieros)
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Old 24 November 2016, 16:08   #32
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alg.zip uploaded to the zone. (Names are original + alg_-prefix added. WinUAE will use checksums, file name does not matter)
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Old 24 November 2016, 17:40   #33
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ldp1450.cpp lists the commands. Looks very straightforward, at least to get past the LD drive detection and initialization.

Funnily enough recently added mostly pointless genlock video support would allow full game emulation by using it to show LD video file, if they would exist.. (do they? at least mame lists them as no dump)
i told you this was a great addition

btw: there is Daphne Laserdisk game emulator. still looking for a game list, but anyone should know about that

#1) running Daphne with supported gamelist - nothing we are looking for it seems.
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http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z (unsupported as usual!) now detects all ALG roms and also includes very basic LD player simulation.

- ROM selection is under extended ROMs.
- Some games will sort of start now.
- Game's configuration menu can be entered with right mouse button
- I didn't bother with trying to understand how light gun is connected or how trigger works.
- Most (all?) games have very long boot delay. (10s+)
- If game reboots soon after init messages: most likely reason is unsupported LD command. (I only tested few randomly chosen games)

(LD command set from: http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/...ommand_ldp.asp. MAME source was useless.)
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cool stuff

#) maybe this should go into another thread, but there is Dragons Lair Laserdisk game.
Player software can be found here. buttom of the page. the laserdisk files may be reused from what you can download with Daphne.
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Old 24 November 2016, 20:57   #36
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Genlock video mode "Laserdisc emulation" added. In this mode selected video file playback is controlled by ALG LD emulation. (Video sound is not supported)

EDIT: Video audio is now working. Probably helps with syncing video ripped from other sources..

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Old 24 November 2016, 22:31   #37
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Genlock video mode "Laserdisc emulation" added. In this mode selected video file playback is controlled by ALG LD emulation. (Video sound is not supported)

EDIT: Video audio is now working. Probably helps with syncing video ripped from other sources..
good progress, but do we have any of the video files?
which of the Games does work - any recommended config - a500 quickstart + ext. rom?

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EDIT: Video audio is now working. Probably helps with syncing video ripped from other sources..
awesome, now we can watch movies - I start with an episode of Seinfeld

Daphne is a nogo these days. I remember using it years ago, and you could use the downloaded video files and play the games. meanwhile they have changed things and you need the real dvd/cd/laserdisk in order to get the downloaded *.bf files decrypted by Daphne - so dont waste your time, downloading anything.

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Old 24 November 2016, 22:46   #38
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Great stuff

I might try adapting the Gallager's Gallery LD rip video (obviously without the second or so at the start) if no one gets around to it first. Do we know what frame rate it expects?
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Old 24 November 2016, 23:59   #39
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Whats the max resolution CDXL on the CD32, I think this can be done a program writen to controll the video clips and score etc because you can have screen dragging on the the Amiga a screen at the bottom of the CDXL video with the Bullets score etc.
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Great stuff

I might try adapting the Gallager's Gallery LD rip video (obviously without the second or so at the start) if no one gets around to it first. Do we know what frame rate it expects?
simply grab the video from the DOS PC ISO ! there are all in and sorted
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