Workbench Disks

Kyon · 27 December 2009, 22:14

hi all i have a question SPS Team dumped wb disks ?
or why dont dumped disks ?

prowler · 27 December 2009, 22:24

Workbench disks can be dumped perfectly into standard .ADF format. No SPS tools required.

Retro-Nerd · 27 December 2009, 22:27

I guess that's not the point. The SPS team dumped physically unprotected Amiga DOS games too.

prowler · 27 December 2009, 22:32

Then I guess it's the infamous Amiga intellectual property issue again.

Kyon · 27 December 2009, 22:35

thanks guys i understand it

Eclipse · 29 December 2009, 13:22

But it's a preserved own copy, it's sent only to the person who owns it. That's why SPS operate the way they do. How could WB be different.
I do understand them probably wanting to not do it though "just in case"

rhester72 · 29 December 2009, 15:55

I was told they basically don't want to do apps, period, and that includes Workbench, because they were typically not on-disk copy protected as many games were (thus necessitating SPS in the first place).

I don't necessarily agree with their POV, but given their limited resources, I do understand them restricting scope.

Rodney

mr.vince · 29 December 2009, 16:24

Thanks.

What you could do (or anyone who already has the dumping software) is to actually DUMP your disks. We won't turn them into something in the near future... but if we happen to be there after World War 3 (I strongly hope this is never going to happen), and only one copy of Workbench disks is left in the form of a RAW dump... we'll be glad to have it.

On the other hand, Cloanto, which own the IP (or part of it, whatever), have already made ADFs from the original masters and have made sure they are authentic, genuine and valid. I mean, hey, take a look at the Hybris they have on Amiga Forever... it boots... right into the credits screen which says "BY QUARTEX!"... ummm...

Sorry, could not resist.

So yes, we have limited resources, have chosen not to work on apps and other things for the time being, but again... dumping and putting the RAW files on hold won't hurt anyone.

You could as well wait for KryoFlux and use this to dump. Will be fast and reliable.

27 December 2009, 22:14	#1
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 33 Posts: 696	Workbench Disks hi all i have a question SPS Team dumped wb disks ? or why dont dumped disks ?

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27 December 2009, 22:24	#2
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Workbench disks can be dumped perfectly into standard .ADF format. No SPS tools required.

27 December 2009, 22:27	#3
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	I guess that's not the point. The SPS team dumped physically unprotected Amiga DOS games too.

27 December 2009, 22:32	#4
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Then I guess it's the infamous Amiga intellectual property issue again.

27 December 2009, 22:35	#5
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 33 Posts: 696	thanks guys i understand it

29 December 2009, 13:22	#6
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	But it's a preserved own copy, it's sent only to the person who owns it. That's why SPS operate the way they do. How could WB be different. I do understand them probably wanting to not do it though "just in case"

29 December 2009, 15:55	#7
rhester72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York / USA Posts: 361	I was told they basically don't want to do apps, period, and that includes Workbench, because they were typically not on-disk copy protected as many games were (thus necessitating SPS in the first place). I don't necessarily agree with their POV, but given their limited resources, I do understand them restricting scope. Rodney

29 December 2009, 16:24	#8
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Thanks. What you could do (or anyone who already has the dumping software) is to actually DUMP your disks. We won't turn them into something in the near future... but if we happen to be there after World War 3 (I strongly hope this is never going to happen), and only one copy of Workbench disks is left in the form of a RAW dump... we'll be glad to have it. On the other hand, Cloanto, which own the IP (or part of it, whatever), have already made ADFs from the original masters and have made sure they are authentic, genuine and valid. I mean, hey, take a look at the Hybris they have on Amiga Forever... it boots... right into the credits screen which says "BY QUARTEX!"... ummm... Sorry, could not resist. So yes, we have limited resources, have chosen not to work on apps and other things for the time being, but again... dumping and putting the RAW files on hold won't hurt anyone. You could as well wait for KryoFlux and use this to dump. Will be fast and reliable.

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