Rock'N'Roll WinUAE Message.

Kitty · 29 October 2009, 11:51

I just played through Level 1 of rocknroll and after I finished the level WinUAE throws up this message. Whats does this mean?

dlfrsilver · 29 October 2009, 12:06

it seems it tries to save...... You are using a crack that still use original routines

Can you post which rock n roll crack version you use please young lady ?

Toni Wilen · 29 October 2009, 12:21

I guess it tries to save to game disk? Game uses custom save format that can't be stored in a standard adf.

Quick solution: zip the game adf and insert it in df0: and finally write-enable it in winuae gui

Slower solution: copy adf to extended ("custom") adf.

Kitty · 29 October 2009, 13:15

Quote:

t seems it tries to save...... You are using a crack that still use original routines

Can you post which rock n roll crack version you use please young lady ?

In the zone

dlfrsilver · 29 October 2009, 16:01

it seems to be a copy of an original ? where did you get it at ?

TCD · 29 October 2009, 16:04

It's in TOSEC. Maybe the PNA crack doesn't have that problem? Furthermore why not using the WHDLoad version?

Supamax · 29 October 2009, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Quick solution: zip the game adf and insert it in df0: and finally write-enable it in winuae gui

Interesting...
Do you mean that inserting a .zip file (it will be considered as write-protected by WinUAE, right?) will result in it being treated in a similar way as for .ipf files (save data stored somewhere else than the disk image itself) ?

Kitty · 29 October 2009, 18:13

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It's in TOSEC. Maybe the PNA crack doesn't have that problem? Furthermore why not using the WHDLoad version?

Sometimes I like to load from disk for realism

Quote:

it seems to be a copy of an original ? where did you get it at ?

I think I got it from the tosec set, not sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen View Post
Quick solution: zip the game adf and insert it in df0: and finally write-enable it in winuae gui

Interesting...
Do you mean that inserting a .zip file (it will be considered as write-protected by WinUAE, right?) will result in it being treated in a similar way as for .ipf files (save data stored somewhere else than the disk image itself) ?

I'd like to know that too!

Ian · 29 October 2009, 18:27

Yes thats what it means.

WinUAE cannot write back to adf inside zip files (thanks goodness for this) and does indeed create savedisks automatically as long as write protect isn't ticked in the floppy options.

tero · 29 October 2009, 18:30

It's stored in SaveImages (default) dir then - see paths tab
Really great cause disc's stay original

EDIT:beaten by Ian

Kitty · 29 October 2009, 18:35

Ok I think it kinda worked by the zip method although I still got the message pop up, but when I looked in SaveImages, Rock'n Roll (1989)(Rainbow Arts)_save.adf is there.
Does this mean the next time I play it shouldnt pop up?
Do I have to load that save adf in disk 2?
Also the save file is 2meg! thats huge compaired to the game adf!

TCD · 29 October 2009, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Kitty

Do I have to load that save adf in disk 2?

No, it should be used by default then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty

Also the save file is 2meg! thats huge compaired to the game adf!

That's because it's in custom format. It's a nice kind of 'workaround'

Supamax · 29 October 2009, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Yes thats what it means.

WinUAE cannot write back to adf inside zip files (thanks goodness for this) and does indeed create savedisks automatically as long as write protect isn't ticked in the floppy options.

Will the newly created "extended adf" savedisk contain the save data only, or will it contain a mfm copy/conversion of the ipf/zip disk too?

tero · 29 October 2009, 18:59

If the game doesn't save your game at all try using a 'custom' disc like Toni said
(in Floppy drives tab of WinUAE)

TCD · 29 October 2009, 19:00

Only the saved/changed data. Create one and have a look with a hex viewer. A lot of 0's in it

tero · 29 October 2009, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Supamax

Will the newly created "extended adf" savedisk contain the save data only, or will it contain a mfm copy/conversion of the ipf/zip disk too?

AFAIK it's a layer - both images are needed

EDIT:beaten by TCD

Kitty · 29 October 2009, 19:10

Ok it saved the high score so I guess its working

My fella just had a go and his score saved ok too, the message still pops up occasionally though, but as long as its saving then thats ok I guess

tero · 29 October 2009, 19:14

Don't you wonder by:
'This message will not appear again'
It shouldn't appear again, no matter if you manage to get it working or not

But good to hear it's working

Kitty · 29 October 2009, 19:17

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'This message will not appear again'

yeah it lied to me!

I'll play it again and see if it happens again, I gotta beat my bf's score anyway :P

Edit Ok I just completed the first level and the message popped up grr!
Just playing level 2 now after I'm done I'll see if it saved.

Kitty · 29 October 2009, 20:03

Saved fine with no popup

It's quite a tedious game actually but one of my favorites

29 October 2009, 11:51	#1
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Rock'N'Roll WinUAE Message. I just played through Level 1 of rocknroll and after I finished the level WinUAE throws up this message. Whats does this mean?

29 October 2009, 18:27	#9
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	Yes thats what it means. WinUAE cannot write back to adf inside zip files (thanks goodness for this) and does indeed create savedisks automatically as long as write protect isn't ticked in the floppy options. Last edited by Ian; 29 October 2009 at 18:39.

29 October 2009, 19:10	#17
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Ok it saved the high score so I guess its working My fella just had a go and his score saved ok too, the message still pops up occasionally though, but as long as its saving then thats ok I guess Last edited by Kitty; 03 September 2010 at 19:55.

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29 October 2009, 12:06	#2
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	it seems it tries to save...... You are using a crack that still use original routines Can you post which rock n roll crack version you use please young lady ?

29 October 2009, 12:21	#3
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	I guess it tries to save to game disk? Game uses custom save format that can't be stored in a standard adf. Quick solution: zip the game adf and insert it in df0: and finally write-enable it in winuae gui Slower solution: copy adf to extended ("custom") adf.

29 October 2009, 16:01	#5
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	it seems to be a copy of an original ? where did you get it at ?

29 October 2009, 16:04	#6
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	It's in TOSEC. Maybe the PNA crack doesn't have that problem? Furthermore why not using the WHDLoad version?

29 October 2009, 18:30	#10
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	It's stored in SaveImages (default) dir then - see paths tab Really great cause disc's stay original EDIT:beaten by Ian

29 October 2009, 18:35	#11
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Ok I think it kinda worked by the zip method although I still got the message pop up, but when I looked in SaveImages, Rock'n Roll (1989)(Rainbow Arts)_save.adf is there. Does this mean the next time I play it shouldnt pop up? Do I have to load that save adf in disk 2? Also the save file is 2meg! thats huge compaired to the game adf!

29 October 2009, 18:59	#14
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	If the game doesn't save your game at all try using a 'custom' disc like Toni said (in Floppy drives tab of WinUAE)

29 October 2009, 19:00	#15
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	Only the saved/changed data. Create one and have a look with a hex viewer. A lot of 0's in it

29 October 2009, 19:14	#18
tero Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: M'Gladbach Age: 46 Posts: 621	Don't you wonder by: 'This message will not appear again' It shouldn't appear again, no matter if you manage to get it working or not But good to hear it's working

29 October 2009, 20:03	#20
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Saved fine with no popup It's quite a tedious game actually but one of my favorites

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