WinUAE 1.5.0 beta series

[Steve]

Ok, I put the file in the right place but I'm still having problems with the latest beta. For some reason when I try to boot with RTG RAM (I use 8MB) WinUAE decides to reduce the RTG RAM to zero. If I put the RAM back to 8MB again and then press reset, WinUAE just closes itself. Also why does the Fast RAM slider not show you the updated amount of Fast RAM when you use the slider?

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Steve

Ok, I put the file in the right place but I'm still having problems with the latest beta. For some reason when I try to boot with RTG RAM (I use 8MB) WinUAE decides to reduce the RTG RAM to zero. If I put the RAM back to 8MB again and then press reset, WinUAE just closes itself. Also why does the Fast RAM slider not show you the updated amount of Fast RAM when you use the slider?

Logs as always. Both winuaebootlog.txt and winuaelog.txt. Also test with previous official because this may not be exactly beta-related..

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Logs as always. Both winuaebootlog.txt and winuaelog.txt. Also test with previous official because this may not be exactly beta-related..

It works fine with no problems using v1.4.6. Looks like the new graphics card code doesn't like my crap graphics hardware.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Steve

It works fine with no problems using v1.4.6. Looks like the new graphics card code doesn't like my crap graphics hardware.

Does it work if you set Z3 RAM to zero (or to very low amount)? You can increase Z2/chip to max if you run out of RAM.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Does it work if you set Z3 RAM to zero (or to very low amount)? You can increase Z2/chip to max if you run out of RAM.

No, I get the same problem.

[Toni Wilen]

This may be Windows 2000 problem. There is some confusion in MSDN documentation about GetWriteWatch() and W2K.

VirtualAlloc() flag listing says: "MEM_WRITE_WATCH, Windows 2000: This flag is not supported."

GetWriteWatch() requirements list: "Requires Windows Vista, Windows XP, or Windows 2000 Professional SP3 and later."

Issue is that GetWriteWatch() is totally pointless without VirtualAlloc()+MEM_WRITE_WATCH-flag.

So either GetWriteWatch() always says "Go away" on W2K or it is working on W2KSP3+...

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.zip includes GetWriteWatch() support test. Check winuaebootlog.txt after running it.

[Steve]

I seem to get the same problem using the new version. The only difference now seems to be the Fast RAM slider is correctly showing the amount of RAM.

[Toni Wilen]

GetWriteWatch(): MEM_WRITE_WATCH not supported!? err=50

50 = ERROR_NOT_SUPPORTED

Bleh.. There may not be any fast workarounds available..

[Toni Wilen]

Workaround found if GetWritePatch() is not supported, (much?) slower but at least it should work.. (guard pages and STATUS_GUARD_PAGE_VIOLATION exceptions)

winuae.zip updated.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Workaround found if GetWritePatch() is not supported, (much?) slower but at least it should work.. (guard pages and STATUS_GUARD_PAGE_VIOLATION exceptions).

Great! It works again now.

It is a little bit slower but its better than nothing. There are a few gripes I have though. For some reason some of the icons on my Workbench are slightly corrupt. Some of them look fine but almost all of them have a tiny black line in the top left corner of the icons image. Very strange.

I've also noticed the old 'fullscreen-corrupt-colours' bug is still present. I tried playing Gloom Deluxe. Switching from fullscreen to windowed mode the graphics look fine. But switching back to fullscreen corrupts all the display colours in the game. I've not tested Gloom for a while but I'm sure I remember this bug being fixed a while ago.

Nice work though.

EDIT: I've found that the colours in Gloom Deluxe can be restored by pressing the ESC key in-game to reach the game menu.

[AmigaSurfer]

At my system P96_New is much slower than P96_Old at WinUAE 1.5.0 beta4. Above all Draw() is factor 40 faster at P96_Old.

I use AmigaOS 3.9 with BB2 and AfA.
Windows XP SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+
nForce3 250
ATI Radeon X1950Pro 512MB AGP
ATI Catalyst 8.2

P96Speed 1.2 - ©`97-99 by Jens Langner
.-----------------------------------------.
| Computer......: UAE/AGA |
| CPU...........: 68040/7MHz |
| OS / WB.......: V46.57/V45.3 |
| SetPatch......: V44.38 |
| Chip/Fast.....: ~8./256. |
| Graphics card.: KEINE GRAFIKKARTE |
| GFX system....: Picasso96 |
| Resolution....: 1920 x 1200 x 24 |
| Depth/Colors..: 16777215 colors |
| Testlength....: 13 |
+-----------------------------------------+
| Description...: P96 Old |
`-----------------------------------------'
.============= SPEEDRESULTS ==============.
| RectFill()................ 2540 op/s |
| RectFill() Pattern........ 463 op/s |
| WritePixel().............. 1411777 op/s |
| WriteChunkyPixels()....... 2137 op/s |
| WritePixelArray8()........ 2165 op/s |
| WritePixelLine8()......... 176074 op/s |
| DrawEllipse()............. 91313 op/s |
| DrawCircle().............. 157684 op/s |
| Draw().................... 7797 op/s |
| Draw() Hor/Ver............ 63713 op/s |
| ScrollRaster() X.......... 176272 op/s |
| ScrollRaster() Y.......... 231215 op/s |
| PutText()................. 54612 op/s |
| BlitBitMap().............. 36305 op/s |
| BlitBitMapRastPort()...... 33838 op/s |
| BitMapScale()............. 1136 op/s |
|--------------- Intuition ---------------|
| OpenWindow().............. 208 op/s |
| MoveWindow().............. 4086 op/s |
| SizeWindow().............. 386 op/s |
| CON-Output................ 1020 op/s |
| ScreenToFront()........... 58 op/s |
`========================================='

P96Speed 1.2 - ©`97-99 by Jens Langner
.-----------------------------------------.
| Computer......: UAE/AGA |
| CPU...........: 68040/7MHz |
| OS / WB.......: V46.57/V45.3 |
| SetPatch......: V44.38 |
| Chip/Fast.....: ~8./256. |
| Graphics card.: KEINE GRAFIKKARTE |
| GFX system....: Picasso96 |
| Resolution....: 1920 x 1200 x 24 |
| Depth/Colors..: 16777215 colors |
| Testlength....: 13 |
+-----------------------------------------+
| Description...: P96 New |
`-----------------------------------------'
.============= SPEEDRESULTS ==============.
| RectFill()................ 554 op/s |
| RectFill() Pattern........ 419 op/s |
| WritePixel().............. 1543390 op/s |
| WriteChunkyPixels()....... 1216 op/s |
| WritePixelArray8()........ 1204 op/s |
| WritePixelLine8()......... 50400 op/s |
| DrawEllipse()............. 7761 op/s |
| DrawCircle().............. 9444 op/s |
| Draw().................... 203 op/s |
| Draw() Hor/Ver............ 10530 op/s |
| ScrollRaster() X.......... 53899 op/s |
| ScrollRaster() Y.......... 207600 op/s |
| PutText()................. 16312 op/s |
| BlitBitMap().............. 3943 op/s |
| BlitBitMapRastPort()...... 3529 op/s |
| BitMapScale()............. 1951 op/s |
|--------------- Intuition ---------------|
| OpenWindow().............. 179 op/s |
| MoveWindow().............. 1190 op/s |
| SizeWindow().............. 455 op/s |
| CON-Output................ 640 op/s |
| ScreenToFront()........... 60 op/s |
`========================================='

I tried to enable "RTG faster". But not much difference between the results. So I leave it off.

BTW: There is a problem with the scrolldown menue for P96-New and P96-Old. If I select P96-New and then open the scrolldown menue and close it without changing the selection. Then it changes to P96-Old.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by AmigaSurfer

At my system P96_New is much slower than P96_Old at WinUAE 1.5.0 beta4. Above all Draw() is factor 40 faster at P96_Old.

b4 is old and obsolete already. Did you also check notes about resolution settings?

[Ed Cruse]

I tried 1500b5 and I’am having troubles. I tried all combos of "Display Panel color depth" and the "Match RTG color depth flag". First, 8 bit RTG is now not an option on the Amiga side. Secondly if I try and change to any other RTG mode WinUAE crashes. Dump file attached.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Ed Cruse

I tried 1500b5 and I’am having troubles. I tried all combos of "Display Panel color depth" and the "Match RTG color depth flag". First, 8 bit RTG is now not an option on the Amiga side. Secondly if I try and change to any other RTG mode WinUAE crashes. Dump file attached.

Does winuae.zip in same directory fix the crashing problem?
I accidentally disabled all 8-bit modes

ADDED: crash is in native emulation side. What exactly did you do? (fullscreen? windowed? resolution? Never say "any" except if you really tested EVERY combination )

[AmigaSurfer]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

b4 is old and obsolete already.

Sorry! The betas spring up like mushrooms. Following the results from WinUAE 1.5.0beta5 compared with WinUAE 1.4.6.

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Did you also check notes about resolution settings?

No, I can't find any notes about resolution settings in this thread. Maybe I'm blind?

BTW, P96Speed 1.2 does allways crash with "8000 0004" after saving the results with 1.5.0beta4. With 1.5.0beta5 it did not crash after saving. But it crashed when I tried to close P96Speed. With 1.4.6 I had no crash.

P96Speed 1.2 - ©`97-99 by Jens Langner
.-----------------------------------------.
| Computer......: UAE/AGA |
| CPU...........: 68040/7MHz |
| OS / WB.......: V46.57/V45.3 |
| SetPatch......: V44.38 |
| Chip/Fast.....: ~8./256. |
| Graphics card.: KEINE GRAFIKKARTE |
| GFX system....: Picasso96 |
| Resolution....: 1920 x 1200 x 24 |
| Depth/Colors..: 16777215 colors |
| Testlength....: 13 |
+-----------------------------------------+
| Description...: WinUAE 1.4.6 |
`-----------------------------------------'
.============= SPEEDRESULTS ==============.
| RectFill()................ 2579 op/s |
| RectFill() Pattern........ 372 op/s |
| WritePixel().............. 1431354 op/s |
| WriteChunkyPixels()....... 2353 op/s |
| WritePixelArray8()........ 2385 op/s |
| WritePixelLine8()......... 187995 op/s |
| DrawEllipse()............. 90677 op/s |
| DrawCircle().............. 184975 op/s |
| Draw().................... 8591 op/s |
| Draw() Hor/Ver............ 19699 op/s |
| ScrollRaster() X.......... 165583 op/s |
| ScrollRaster() Y.......... 205967 op/s |
| PutText()................. 52281 op/s |
| BlitBitMap().............. 37294 op/s |
| BlitBitMapRastPort()...... 36640 op/s |
| BitMapScale()............. 1252 op/s |
|--------------- Intuition ---------------|
| OpenWindow().............. 236 op/s |
| MoveWindow().............. 4226 op/s |
| SizeWindow().............. 461 op/s |
| CON-Output................ 1063 op/s |
| ScreenToFront()........... 60 op/s |
`========================================='

P96Speed 1.2 - ©`97-99 by Jens Langner
.-----------------------------------------.
| Computer......: UAE/AGA |
| CPU...........: 68040/7MHz |
| OS / WB.......: V46.57/V45.3 |
| SetPatch......: V44.38 |
| Chip/Fast.....: ~8./256. |
| Graphics card.: KEINE GRAFIKKARTE |
| GFX system....: Picasso96 |
| Resolution....: 1920 x 1200 x 24 |
| Depth/Colors..: 16777215 colors |
| Testlength....: 13 |
+-----------------------------------------+
| Description...: WinUAE 1.5.0 beta5 |
`-----------------------------------------'
.============= SPEEDRESULTS ==============.
| RectFill()................ 544 op/s |
| RectFill() Pattern........ 463 op/s |
| WritePixel().............. 1477346 op/s |
| WriteChunkyPixels()....... 1223 op/s |
| WritePixelArray8()........ 1251 op/s |
| WritePixelLine8()......... 52712 op/s |
| DrawEllipse()............. 7771 op/s |
| DrawCircle().............. 9582 op/s |
| Draw().................... 189 op/s |
| Draw() Hor/Ver............ 10567 op/s |
| ScrollRaster() X.......... 58461 op/s |
| ScrollRaster() Y.......... 197567 op/s |
| PutText()................. 15349 op/s |
| BlitBitMap().............. 4092 op/s |
| BlitBitMapRastPort()...... 3728 op/s |
| BitMapScale()............. 1925 op/s |
|--------------- Intuition ---------------|
| OpenWindow().............. 171 op/s |
| MoveWindow().............. 1145 op/s |
| SizeWindow().............. 367 op/s |
| CON-Output................ 597 op/s |
| ScreenToFront()........... 60 op/s |
`========================================='

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by AmigaSurfer

Sorry! The betas spring up like mushrooms. Following the results from WinUAE 1.5.0beta5 compared with WinUAE 1.4.6.

Do you get similar (crappy) results if you use smaller resolution, like 1280x1024? Also do you see any difference between windowed and fullscreen mode? (both 1920x1200 and 1280x1024)

No, I can't find any notes about resolution settings in this thread. Maybe I'm blind?

from b4 changelog: (but this shouldn't be problem with b5 anymore)

NOTE: Before benchmarking, make sure Display panel display depth matches Picasso96 display depth.

BTW, P96Speed 1.2 does allways crash with "8000 0004" after saving the results with 1.5.0beta4. With 1.5.0beta5 it did not crash after saving. But it crashed when I tried to close P96Speed. With 1.4.6 I had no crash.

No crashes here, it is possible this is some random conflict with some other program/patch instead of P96 problem.
EDIT: perhaps too small stack (this is the most common problem)

[Ian]

I got a few error messages with p96speed too, turns out it didn't install correctly (ie I probably didn't do it )

No errors in any of my configs since installing it properly though.

[Toni Wilen]

Here is results from 2 quite high end PCs. (Slower Athlon-based PC can't do 1920x1200.. Will test lower resolutions later..)

Interesting results. Most results are about same or faster except 1.4.6 Blitxxx-tests which are much slower than above 1.4.6 tests..

Confusing...

1.5.0 Desktop 1920x1200 fullscreen
(E6600 Core2Duo @ 3.3GHz, NVidia 8800GTX, Vista 64-bit)
.============= SPEEDRESULTS ==============.
| RectFill()................  10044 op/s  |
| RectFill() Pattern........   2185 op/s  |
| WritePixel().............. 1901673 op/s  |
| WriteChunkyPixels().......   4359 op/s  |
| WritePixelArray8()........   4348 op/s  |
| WritePixelLine8()......... 179927 op/s  |
| DrawEllipse()............. 157070 op/s  |
| DrawCircle().............. 219552 op/s  |
| Draw()....................  31185 op/s  |
| Draw() Hor/Ver............ 122705 op/s  |
| ScrollRaster() X.......... 287305 op/s  |
| ScrollRaster() Y.......... 519807 op/s  |
| PutText().................  79459 op/s  |
| BlitBitMap()..............  29181 op/s  |
| BlitBitMapRastPort()......  24802 op/s  |
| BitMapScale().............   3210 op/s  |
|--------------- Intuition ---------------|
| OpenWindow()..............   1509 op/s  |
| MoveWindow()..............   5150 op/s  |
| SizeWindow()..............   1633 op/s  |
| CON-Output................   1433 op/s  |
| ScreenToFront()...........     44 op/s  |
`========================================='
1.5.0 Laptop 1920x1200 fullscreen
(2.4GHz Core2Duo T7700, NVidia Quadro FX 1600M, Vista 32-bit)
.============= SPEEDRESULTS ==============.
| RectFill()................   4296 op/s  |
| RectFill() Pattern........   1445 op/s  |
| WritePixel().............. 1356222 op/s  |
| WriteChunkyPixels().......   2487 op/s  |
| WritePixelArray8()........   2609 op/s  |
| WritePixelLine8().........  90617 op/s  |
| DrawEllipse().............  84624 op/s  |
| DrawCircle().............. 103724 op/s  |
| Draw()....................  18524 op/s  |
| Draw() Hor/Ver............  74545 op/s  |
| ScrollRaster() X.......... 152953 op/s  |
| ScrollRaster() Y.......... 279024 op/s  |
| PutText().................  43061 op/s  |
| BlitBitMap()..............  15373 op/s  |
| BlitBitMapRastPort()......  13882 op/s  |
| BitMapScale().............   2315 op/s  |
|--------------- Intuition ---------------|
| OpenWindow()..............    852 op/s  |
| MoveWindow()..............   2611 op/s  |
| SizeWindow()..............   1239 op/s  |
| CON-Output................    789 op/s  |
| ScreenToFront()...........     25 op/s  |
`========================================='
1460 Desktop 1920x1200 fullscreen
.============= SPEEDRESULTS ==============.
| RectFill()................   4652 op/s  |
| RectFill() Pattern........    626 op/s  |
| WritePixel().............. 1856584 op/s  |
| WriteChunkyPixels().......   2843 op/s  |
| WritePixelArray8()........   2888 op/s  |
| WritePixelLine8()......... 203978 op/s  |
| DrawEllipse()............. 162710 op/s  |
| DrawCircle().............. 227740 op/s  |
| Draw()....................  16835 op/s  |
| Draw() Hor/Ver............  35291 op/s  |
| ScrollRaster() X.......... 446421 op/s  |
| ScrollRaster() Y.......... 492115 op/s  |
| PutText().................  66821 op/s  |
| BlitBitMap()..............  12055 op/s  |
| BlitBitMapRastPort()......  10972 op/s  |
| BitMapScale().............   1881 op/s  |
|--------------- Intuition ---------------|
| OpenWindow()..............   1349 op/s  |
| MoveWindow()..............   2682 op/s  |
| SizeWindow()..............   1238 op/s  |
| CON-Output................ 630279 op/s  | (???)
| ScreenToFront()...........     13 op/s  |
`========================================='

[Mad-Matt]

does settig jit Afterp96 vs direct have any effect on the reported speeds? Also, should there be many difference setting p96 do do cpu blits instead of the blitter ?

[Ed Cruse]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Does winuae.zip in same directory fix the crashing problem?
I accidentally disabled all 8-bit modes

ADDED: crash is in native emulation side. What exactly did you do? (fullscreen? windowed? resolution? Never say "any" except if you really tested EVERY combination )

I may not have checked them all but I did a reasonable sampling. Here are the modes I did check.

OLD 1500B5:
Color Depth = 32
Full Screen
Match RTG color depth = on
Default Amiga side RTG = 1024x768x16
RTG 8 bit not available
Crashes when switch to the folloing:
RTG 1024x768x32
RTG 1280x1024x16/32
RTG 640x480x16/32
NTSC 640x400x8
PAL 640x512x8

NEW 1500B5:
Color Depth = 32
Full Screen
Match RTG color depth = on
Default Amiga side RTG = 1024x768x16
WinUAE crashes when coming up, even when default Amiga side set to NTSC 640x400x8. In other words I can't test anything.