Best diagnostic software

Starglider 2 · 06 February 2018, 06:26

Hi guys, on the C64 there are great "dead test" cartridges that check every part of the machine for faults. Not just the RAM.

What's the best thing like that for A500?

alpine9000 · 06 February 2018, 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starglider 2

Hi guys, on the C64 there are great "dead test" cartridges that check every part of the machine for faults. Not just the RAM.

What's the best thing like that for A500?

Diagrom ?

http://www.diagrom.com/

Starglider 2 · 06 February 2018, 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpine9000

Diagrom ?

http://www.diagrom.com/

Is there anything in software only form rather than a ROM? I haven't got into flashing those yet. At least not on the Amiga.

ajk · 06 February 2018, 07:53

If the system is running to such a degree that you can load software, there can't really be any major faults. The reason why diagnostic tools tend to be Kickstart replacements is so that it's possible to inspect the system even if it fails to boot all the way.

You could try this:

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co...ct.aspx?id=803
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=83444

But on a working machine (and without the extra test kit) it doesn't really get you all that much further than simply booting a game to try the system out

Daedalus · 06 February 2018, 10:07

Keir Fraser's Systest is an excellent bit of programming that lets you test lots of aspects of the Amiga hardware. It's a small executable that takes over the machine, and can also be downloaded as a bootable ADF image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6F...RvOXVDd3M/view

DDNI · 06 February 2018, 19:20

I second Keir Fraser’s Systest.
Daedalus put me on to it and it helped diagnose a few issues that I had with an A1200. It was fun making the parallel port dongle too!

Starglider 2 · 07 February 2018, 21:53

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Originally Posted by DDNI

I second Keir Fraser’s Systest.
Daedalus put me on to it and it helped diagnose a few issues that I had with an A1200. It was fun making the parallel port dongle too!

WELL. It looks great but if I test memory or even do a clean boot from HxC ADF then leave it sitting there without starting any tests, I get the attached exceptions!

I guess this thread should be called "What the heck is wrong with my Amiga?!"

Daedalus · 08 February 2018, 09:55

Hmmm, that's interesting, I've never seen that before. I wonder if it's a problem with the area of memory that the program itself is loaded into? Or maybe it's not loading correctly and getting corrupted, either by the floppy circuitry or the drive/Gotek.

You could ask the developer of Systest - he goes by the username kaffer on this forum. Perhaps send him those images in a PM, see if he can shed any light on it.

Starglider 2 · 08 February 2018, 10:13

Kaffer are you there?...

Keir · 03 December 2018, 17:17

Found this rather belatedly. If there is a SysTest issue or support question then it is best to raise an issue ticket on Github.

In this case, exception #1f is an unexpected level-7 interrupt (unmaskable, aka NMI). Amiga chipset does not generate NMIs, perhaps there was expansion hardware connected to this particular Amiga?

Keir · 14 March 2019, 17:41

I would like to note that SysTest is now called Amiga Test Kit.

Still available from the same place on Github:
https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff

dalek · 15 March 2019, 01:51

You sir are a champion and a gentleman. Thanks again for everything you put out there for us!

leon22 · 30 September 2019, 22:05

Here is the newest version 1.5 as download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jhm...ew?usp=sharing
(builded today)

Tutorial on my blog: https://funwithretrocomputers.blogsp...-test-kit.html

Greets leon22

solarmon · 30 September 2019, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by leon22

Here is the newest version 1.5 as download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jhm...ew?usp=sharing
(builded today)

Tutorial on my blog: https://funwithretrocomputers.blogsp...-test-kit.html
Greets leon22

There is already a valid and official download source for ATK directly from Kier's Github page.

So no need to provide an unknown and untrusted source.

leon22 · 01 October 2019, 07:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarmon

There is already a valid and official download source for ATK directly from Kier's Github page.

So no need to provide an unknown and untrusted source.

There is no binary available to download on Kier's GitHub page (only the source) and I cross compiled it yesterday to provide it for the community! Why do you think this is unnecessary?

solarmon · 01 October 2019, 07:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by leon22

There is no binary available to download on Kier's GitHub page (only the source) and I cross compiled it yesterday to provide it for the community! Why do you think this is unnecessary?

Watchoo talking about, Willis?!

On the page:

https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff

It clearly has a link to download it:

Quote:

Download the latest build of Amiga Test Kit here (Github)

Where here is:

https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff...stKit-v1.5.zip

leon22 · 01 October 2019, 08:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarmon

Watchoo talking about, Willis?!

On the page:

https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff

It clearly has a link to download it:

Where here is:

https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff...stKit-v1.5.zip

Ok! I'm sorry! That was maybe too obvious for me so I missed it! ;-)

Greets leon22

PS: Nevertheless it was fun to build it on my own ;-)

30 September 2019, 22:05	#13
leon22 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Graz Posts: 5	Here is the newest version 1.5 as download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jhm...ew?usp=sharing (builded today) Tutorial on my blog: https://funwithretrocomputers.blogsp...-test-kit.html Greets leon22 Last edited by leon22; 30 September 2019 at 22:12.

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06 February 2018, 06:26	#1
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Best diagnostic software Hi guys, on the C64 there are great "dead test" cartridges that check every part of the machine for faults. Not just the RAM. What's the best thing like that for A500?

06 February 2018, 07:53	#4
ajk Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,341	If the system is running to such a degree that you can load software, there can't really be any major faults. The reason why diagnostic tools tend to be Kickstart replacements is so that it's possible to inspect the system even if it fails to boot all the way. You could try this: http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co...ct.aspx?id=803 http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=83444 But on a working machine (and without the extra test kit) it doesn't really get you all that much further than simply booting a game to try the system out

06 February 2018, 10:07	#5
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,335	Keir Fraser's Systest is an excellent bit of programming that lets you test lots of aspects of the Amiga hardware. It's a small executable that takes over the machine, and can also be downloaded as a bootable ADF image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6F...RvOXVDd3M/view

06 February 2018, 19:20	#6
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	I second Keir Fraser’s Systest. Daedalus put me on to it and it helped diagnose a few issues that I had with an A1200. It was fun making the parallel port dongle too!

08 February 2018, 09:55	#8
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,335	Hmmm, that's interesting, I've never seen that before. I wonder if it's a problem with the area of memory that the program itself is loaded into? Or maybe it's not loading correctly and getting corrupted, either by the floppy circuitry or the drive/Gotek. You could ask the developer of Systest - he goes by the username kaffer on this forum. Perhaps send him those images in a PM, see if he can shed any light on it.

08 February 2018, 10:13	#9
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Kaffer are you there?...

03 December 2018, 17:17	#10
Keir Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cambridge Posts: 682	Found this rather belatedly. If there is a SysTest issue or support question then it is best to raise an issue ticket on Github. In this case, exception #1f is an unexpected level-7 interrupt (unmaskable, aka NMI). Amiga chipset does not generate NMIs, perhaps there was expansion hardware connected to this particular Amiga?

14 March 2019, 17:41	#11
Keir Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cambridge Posts: 682	I would like to note that SysTest is now called Amiga Test Kit. Still available from the same place on Github: https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff

15 March 2019, 01:51	#12
dalek Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NSW/Australia Posts: 462	You sir are a champion and a gentleman. Thanks again for everything you put out there for us!

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