IK+ NTSC fixed version?

TjLaZer · 06 October 2023, 18:51

I can't seem to find any disk of IK+ that will run on NTSC. I do see that on some of the cracked disks if I hold down the mouse the game will start after decrunching. (I think this bypasses the intro screen which is where it normally crashes). Is there an NTSC fixed version out there? Much appreciated.

kremiso · 07 October 2023, 10:46

you are right, fastly skipping the main menu make the game work in NTSC

ingame it does work, when returning to the main menu it will crash

wondering if the whdload fixes could be applied to a disk version

TjLaZer · 12 January 2024, 23:28

Would it be easy to modify the game to work in NTSC like the WHDLoad version does?

kremiso · 13 January 2024, 09:36

i think i have already tried to put both whdload and game (that is a single file) in an adf, and it worked perfectly fine

Snoopy1234 · 13 January 2024, 09:39

The HOL Conversion notes state IK+ was released in the US as Chop N' Drop.

TCD · 13 January 2024, 09:47

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Originally Posted by Snoopy1234

The HOL Conversion notes state IK+ was released in the US as Chop N' Drop.

For C64 and PSX that is.

Snoopy1234 · 13 January 2024, 10:36

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Originally Posted by TCD

For C64 and PSX that is.

Ok. Note to self - must read details.

TCD · 13 January 2024, 10:46

It's quite interesting that some European titles only got US releases for certain systems. Quite common for games past 91 that only the PC version made it to the US and the Amiga and ST versions never got a US release.

Snoopy1234 · 13 January 2024, 12:07

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Originally Posted by TCD

It's quite interesting that some European titles only got US releases for certain systems. Quite common for games past 91 that only the PC version made it to the US and the Amiga and ST versions never got a US release.

Interesting. That's about when I started using PC's too. Must have been that trip to California in '83.

TjLaZer · 18 January 2024, 06:43

Was there ever a NTSC release of IK+ for the Amiga? Chop 'n Drop? LOL Why did they even do that. Bad name for sure for the US market. It's IK+!

TCD · 18 January 2024, 10:35

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Originally Posted by TjLaZer

Was there ever a NTSC release of IK+ for the Amiga?

Not easy to tell without any proof. Mobygames thinks there was a US release of IK+, but there are no scans of that release or any US ads or reviews that I could quickly find.

Snoopy1234 · 18 January 2024, 11:33

The US release of IK+ on Atari Jaguar features Chuck Norris

TCD · 18 January 2024, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Snoopy1234

The US release of IK+ on Atari Jaguar features Chuck Norris

2015? I wonder if Chuck knows about this

TjLaZer · 18 January 2024, 22:03

And Steven Seagal! lol

Torti-the-Smurf · 18 January 2024, 22:44

I love this game

It uses Bruce Lee SFX and features Chuck Norris on the Back cover... sure; make sense

The Game is just THAT great !!! - So Funny and satisfying

TjLaZer · 19 January 2024, 05:29

Interesting find! I wrote the IPF image to disk and tried it on my NTSC Amiga 1000. It works! But on my NTSC Amiga 500 it won't run unless I go into PAL mode.

TCD · 19 January 2024, 07:59

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Originally Posted by TjLaZer

Interesting find! I wrote the IPF image to disk and tried it on my NTSC Amiga 1000. It works! But on my NTSC Amiga 500 it won't run unless I go into PAL mode.

Interesting find

Maybe somebody could explain why that is (so I could add a note to the HOL entry).

ross · 19 January 2024, 09:59

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Originally Posted by TjLaZer

Interesting find! I wrote the IPF image to disk and tried it on my NTSC Amiga 1000. It works! But on my NTSC Amiga 500 it won't run unless I go into PAL mode.

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Originally Posted by TCD

Interesting find

Maybe somebody could explain why that is (so I could add a note to the HOL entry).

I can take a look at it, but I need to know the exact conditions, to be able to emulate the situations

The differences between the A1000 and A500 are not many, so it is very likely a race condition given that the VBI does not occur at the same time between the two machines.

Which IPF are we talking about?
What is the exact configuration of the A1000?
Does the game start by replicating the same configuration in WinUAE?

TjLaZer · 21 January 2024, 22:44

I think it may be because the A1000 has the old Agnus and can't do PAL so maybe it just works? The A500 has the 1MB Agnus and can do both, and only works when in PAL mode or it crashes on the tiitle screen. (If you press and hold the mouse button it skips the title and starts normal) I used this SPS title in TOSEC.

IK+ (1991)(Hit Squad, The)[budget][2063].zip

The A1000 I am using right now is a stock A1000 NTSC with 512k Chip and 1MB Fast inside, but it also has an ACA500 connected with a ACA1220 card, but I booted in Kickstart 1.3 mode with all extras turned off. I can test a bone stock A1000 to see if it works on that too...

TjLaZer · 21 January 2024, 22:55

I just did a test in WinUAE in A1000 emulation mode and can't get it to work. Needs to be in PAL to get past the title screen...

06 October 2023, 18:51	#1
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,918	IK+ NTSC fixed version? I can't seem to find any disk of IK+ that will run on NTSC. I do see that on some of the cracked disks if I hold down the mouse the game will start after decrunching. (I think this bypasses the intro screen which is where it normally crashes). Is there an NTSC fixed version out there? Much appreciated. Last edited by TjLaZer; 07 October 2023 at 21:36.

18 January 2024, 11:33	#12
Snoopy1234 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Australia Age: 52 Posts: 844	The US release of IK+ on Atari Jaguar features Chuck Norris Attached Thumbnails

21 January 2024, 22:44	#19
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,918	I think it may be because the A1000 has the old Agnus and can't do PAL so maybe it just works? The A500 has the 1MB Agnus and can do both, and only works when in PAL mode or it crashes on the tiitle screen. (If you press and hold the mouse button it skips the title and starts normal) I used this SPS title in TOSEC. IK+ (1991)(Hit Squad, The)[budget][2063].zip The A1000 I am using right now is a stock A1000 NTSC with 512k Chip and 1MB Fast inside, but it also has an ACA500 connected with a ACA1220 card, but I booted in Kickstart 1.3 mode with all extras turned off. I can test a bone stock A1000 to see if it works on that too... Last edited by TjLaZer; 21 January 2024 at 22:57.

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kremiso Registered User Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Italy Posts: 1,901	you are right, fastly skipping the main menu make the game work in NTSC ingame it does work, when returning to the main menu it will crash wondering if the whdload fixes could be applied to a disk version

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TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,918	Would it be easy to modify the game to work in NTSC like the WHDLoad version does?

13 January 2024, 09:36	#4
kremiso Registered User Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Italy Posts: 1,901	i think i have already tried to put both whdload and game (that is a single file) in an adf, and it worked perfectly fine

13 January 2024, 09:39	#5
Snoopy1234 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Australia Age: 52 Posts: 844	The HOL Conversion notes state IK+ was released in the US as Chop N' Drop.

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TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,603	It's quite interesting that some European titles only got US releases for certain systems. Quite common for games past 91 that only the PC version made it to the US and the Amiga and ST versions never got a US release.

18 January 2024, 06:43	#10
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,918	Was there ever a NTSC release of IK+ for the Amiga? Chop 'n Drop? LOL Why did they even do that. Bad name for sure for the US market. It's IK+!

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TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,918	And Steven Seagal! lol

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Torti-the-Smurf Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,064	I love this game It uses Bruce Lee SFX and features Chuck Norris on the Back cover... sure; make sense The Game is just THAT great !!! - So Funny and satisfying

19 January 2024, 05:29	#16
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,918	Interesting find! I wrote the IPF image to disk and tried it on my NTSC Amiga 1000. It works! But on my NTSC Amiga 500 it won't run unless I go into PAL mode.

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TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,918	I just did a test in WinUAE in A1000 emulation mode and can't get it to work. Needs to be in PAL to get past the title screen...

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