12 June 2014, 18:30 | #1 |
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A-EON Technology Acquires Amiga.org:
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12 June 2014, 19:10 | #2 |
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I read amiga.org as "Amiga Inc.".
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13 June 2014, 02:19 | #3 |
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Even a quick visit to a.org is a chilling experience.
Theres just no pleasing some (most) of those guys. Best wishes to the new owners, fingers crossed they can warm the place up a bit. |
13 June 2014, 05:52 | #4 |
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If if was me, Id just shutdown the amiga.org servers and then cname the domain to eab.
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13 June 2014, 10:33 | #5 |
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13 June 2014, 15:34 | #6 |
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Amiga.org ceased being relevant a long time ago.
If A-EON is intent on improving things, then thats to be welcomed, but when I tried to setup an additional account to let slip that Putty Squad was due to be released that same day, inspite of me contacting SEVERAL people who were mods on there to get the account approved because of the annoucement, it took two weeks for the account to be validated!! Everywhere else was very accommodating, Amiga.org not so much. They were too busy patting themselves on the back for their 'contribution' to getting Putty Squad released?!?!?!!?! Unless A-EON is intent on sorting Amiga.ORG out, frankly its a waste of time and effort, and if they paid for it..... oh dear! Without doubt, EAB is the PREMIER place to go for all things Amiga, the content of the forums says so, the quality of the guys frequenting here (and ladies!) says so, and the continued contribution EAB makes toward Amiga stuff says so. |
13 June 2014, 15:48 | #7 |
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Absolutely. I'm honoured to be a member of EAB, and I hate to think where the Amiga would be without it.
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13 June 2014, 16:21 | #8 |
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Yeah, EAB is the place to be. I have lurked round Amiga.org for a few years, but nothing on there has inspired me to sign up or to post. Seems like a troll haven more than a forum, I think the domain name is what got A-EON's attention more than anything.
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13 June 2014, 18:59 | #9 |
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I agree with Galahad regarding EAB being great for 68k and classic PPC Amigas, however the coverage and welcome of NG Amiga platforms such as AmigaOS4 and MorphOS is not great.
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13 June 2014, 19:10 | #10 |
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I gave up on Amiga.org due to excessive drama. It just deterioriated over the years to the point where all the members whose posts I liked to read had left and what they left behind was the troll drama.
This change in ownership could be a good thing but I'm not going to be reading or posting there again anytime soon. |
13 June 2014, 19:13 | #11 |
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I do agree, but I would also say that these platforms are not Amiga and that the lack of software for them means they are not worth using.
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13 June 2014, 19:51 | #12 |
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I left amiga.org for personal reasons: I didn't like the (ab)use of US law that transfers ownership of my content to the site owner, without me actively agreeing to this proceeding. I left when I found out that a) somebody made money on what I contributed to for free without me agreeing, and b) when the new owner (Bill) refused to delete my content. Granted, he was entitled to act that way by US law, so everything was perfectly legal from his point of view.
However, I'm European, and I don't like the American way of treating intellectual property rights, because I think that the laws apply double standards: Big corporations are granted lots of rights, and the "little man" is taken the rights to his content by a st*pid law that non-US users of the site aren't made aware of. I was asked by numerous people including Matthew from AmigaKit/AEON to return to amiga.org. Didn't get a reply from Matthew to my conditions where a key condition is to move the physical server to Europe for legal reasons. Just checked: The amiga.org server is still in the US, so posting there is out of the question for me. EAB is in France, so yeah, it's the place to be for all those who don't speak German and can participate in a1k.org, which has very good moderation (which also banned me for a week some time ago, and I still like them). Jens |
13 June 2014, 21:27 | #13 |
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@schoenfeld:
could you be more elaborative? sure the number of strange practices were associated with previous aorg administration, but still from the point of view of a member it was rather easy not to be fooled like that. your case sounds serious, what is that content you are talking about? ive never noticed anything. |
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13 June 2014, 23:23 | #15 |
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Maybe I shouldn't mention it, but the situation about ownership of posts is the same here on EAB... By posting on this forum the rights of your posts are given to the forum. It's the same on almost every forum. Of course given good reasons these posts can still be removed.
Edit: http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=eab...ads_vandalized Last edited by TCD; 13 June 2014 at 23:55. |
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In the US, the collector of "information" automatically becomes the owner, so sites with user-provided content actually *own* the articles that users have written.
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Another point that made me angry was that Wayne's debt was primarily caused by someone we all know too well, and some of you might know that I don't like these people too much either. Quote:
I'm not on AmiBay because it's just too many forums to check. Quote:
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13 June 2014, 23:59 | #17 |
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The moderation was not good at all. In fact, some of the mods seemed to encourage the drama. That being said, when I read the tread on the sale at Amiga.org, I was reminded that there were a lot of people and mods I liked at Amiga.org, just not enough to make the differerence. I also saw the same sort of sniping and comments that made me leave.
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14 June 2014, 06:23 | #18 | |
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EAB feels like home, it's great (thanks for not banning me, hehe).
Now sliding a bit off topic to follow the trend here... Personally, I don't like moderation, except to delete spam and the occasional death threat. Long ago, back in 2003, I created a simple concept of moderation free forums called "BERZERK". Quote:
Regarding ownership of posts as Schoenfeld pointed out, I like this statement: "All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments and forum messages are owned by the Poster." Last edited by modrobert; 14 June 2014 at 07:11. |
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14 June 2014, 08:35 | #19 |
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Meh, EAB is the place to go for anything Amiga although Amibay and Commodore is Awesome are cool too.
French servers rule and so does France even though I have never visited before. Eiffel tower (legend has it the EAB server is on the top floor) and ice cream wins! |
14 June 2014, 10:55 | #20 |
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Just finished reading through the equivalent of this thread on Amiga.org, what a bunch of self entitled argumentative trolls, I really hope they don't come here to EAB. All most of them are trying to do is cause arguments with A-EON and Amigakit, I feel sorry for Trevor and Matthew, got a lot of work to do on there by the looks of it.
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