issues on real amiga with 8gb cf drive

GameBase · 14 May 2016, 21:15

Hi

I've setup ClassicWB on an 8GB flash drive with a 'Games' drive as DH2. It's all working fine in WinUAE - the drive boots up perfectly. I can run igame, select all WHDLoad games and run them fine. There are "System", "Work" and "Games" icons on the desktop (with the whdload games in "Games"). On my A1200 though the 'Games' drive fails to show up on the desktop, and igame just asks me to insert A-Games every time a game is clicked in the list.

Any ideas?

Thanks

supaduper · 14 May 2016, 21:33

If you have used the FFS filestystem then you have hit the classic 4gb barrier that that filesystem has, reformat the CF using the PFS3 aio filesystem and copy your backup to the new CF using Dopus or just drag and drop and this will solve your problem

GameBase · 14 May 2016, 21:55

Hi

Thanks - what actually happened was that this was previously working on the A1200 (setup by fitzsteve some years ago), but then one day the "games" drive was no longer showing up on ClassicWB (after months of it being fine). So I thought I'd test it by loading it in WinUAE. It shows up and works fine in that, so I don't understand what's wrong..

-Acid- · 14 May 2016, 23:26

Was the card previously FFS when it was working or did you prep a new card to use? Also were you using loadmodule and an updated scsi.device to get the extra partitions up? maybe you have accidentally edited it out of your startup sequence or deleted/moved the scsi.device file from devs?

GameBase · 14 May 2016, 23:37

Hi

I've not touched anything in WB since it was working.

Hardware wise, I'm running an A1200 with 2mb chip ram. Hmm... I *have* changed the accelerator I'm using though since my old ACA1231 with 64mb ram failed. Looking back I wouldn't be surprised if it's been since then that the "Games" drive has not been showing up, but I can't say for certain if that's the case. It's been replaced with a blizzard 1230-MKII with 32mb ram.

version scsi.device outputs version 40.12

typing dh2: in a shell shows me "dh2:: not enough memory available".

thomas · 15 May 2016, 01:10

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1082420&postcount=2

-Acid- · 15 May 2016, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by GameBase

typing dh2: in a shell shows me "dh2:: not enough memory available".

That sounds like a typical error message when using an old incompatible scsi.device for bigger drives (the default one loaded from rom on boot). Try using a newer one (43.45) with loadmodule (both on aminet) and see if that fixes it for you.

GameBase · 15 May 2016, 14:59

I tried replacing the scsi.device as per the tutorial video on the classicwb site, but on rebooting I get the guru meditation

. I'll run hddreport and post the output as suggested thanks.

GameBase · 15 May 2016, 16:52

Here are the HDDReports...

WinUAE...

Code:

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Sunday, 15-May-16 at 15:35:02
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Overview:

  Drive      Volume         Capacity  Type  Boot  Device     Unit Loc.  Check
  CC0                          20 KB  DOS1     3  carddisk    0         
  DF0                         880 KB  DOS0     5  trackdisk   0         
  DH2_0      PC              1905 KB  DOS0     0  uae         2         
  DH0        System1          500 MB  DOS1     0< uaehf       0         ok
  DH0_0      System           300 MB  CFS0     0  uaehf       1         ok
  DH1        Work            1569 MB  CFS0    no  uaehf       1         ok
  DH2        Games           5747 MB  CFS0    no  uaehf       1   >4G   ok


System information:

  Kickstart 3.1 version 40.68
  exec.library version 40.10
  dos.library version 40.3
  expansion.library version 40.2
  icon.library version 40.1
  utility.library version 40.1
  intuition.library version 40.85
  graphics.library version 40.24

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Sunday, 15-May-16 at 15:35:02
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File Systems:

  CFS0  SmartFilesystem                Version   1.277 (Resource) TD64, NSD
  DOS1                                 Version  40.1   (Resource) 
  DOS0  fs                             Version  40.1   (DOS list) 

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Sunday, 15-May-16 at 15:35:02
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Exec Devices:

  carddisk.device       Unit   0  Version  40.1   (none)

    Geometry:
      SectorSize   : 0
      TotalSectors : 0
      Cylinders    : 0
      CylSectors   : 0
      Heads        : 0
      TrackSectors : 0
      BufMemType   : PUBLIC
      DeviceType   : Direct Access
      Flags        : REMOVABLE
      Capacity     : n/a

  trackdisk.device      Unit   0  Version  40.1   (none)

    Geometry:
      SectorSize   : 512
      TotalSectors : 1760
      Cylinders    : 80
      CylSectors   : 22
      Heads        : 2
      TrackSectors : 11
      BufMemType   : PUBLIC
      DeviceType   : Direct Access
      Flags        : REMOVABLE
      Capacity     : 880 KB

  uae.device            Unit   2  Error  -1  (device/unit failed to open)

  uaehf.device          Unit   0  Version  50.0   TD64, NSD

    HD_SCSICMD       check failed with error -3 (command not supported by device)

    Geometry:
      SectorSize   : 512
      TotalSectors : 1024000
      Cylinders    : 32000
      CylSectors   : 32
      Heads        : 1
      TrackSectors : 32
      BufMemType   : ANY
      DeviceType   : Direct Access
      Flags        : 0
      Capacity     : 500 MB

    last readable block using CMD_READ:           1023999 ( 500 MB)

  uaehf.device          Unit   1  Version  50.0   TD64, NSD, SCSI

    SCSI:
      Vendor       : USB Mass
      Product      :  Storage Device 
      Revision     :    
      BlockAddress : 15613919
      BlockLength  : 512
      Capacity     : 7624 MB

    Geometry:
      SectorSize   : 512
      TotalSectors : 15613920
      Cylinders    : 7745
      CylSectors   : 2016
      Heads        : 8
      TrackSectors : 252
      BufMemType   : ANY
      DeviceType   : Direct Access
      Flags        : 0
      Capacity     : 7624 MB

    RDSK:                                  Flags:
      Vendor       : Generic                 Last          = yes
      Product      : USB CF Reader           Last LUN      = yes
      Revision     : 1.01                    Last TID      = yes
      Cylinders    : 7745                    Reselect      = yes
      Sectors      : 252                     Disk ID       = not valid
      Heads        : 8                       Controller ID = not valid
      CylBlocks    : 2016                    Synch         = no
      BlockBytes   : 512
      Capacity     : 7624 MB

    FSHD:
      CFS0  L:SmartFilesystem            Version   1.277 Size  98252 Bytes
      DOS3  L:FastFileSystem             Version  45.13  Size  26468 Bytes

    last readable block using CMD_READ:           8388607 (4096 MB)
    last readable block using TD_READ64:         15613919 (7624 MB)
    last readable block using NSCMD_TD_READ64:   15613919 (7624 MB)
    last readable block using HD_SCSICMD:        15613919 (7624 MB)

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Sunday, 15-May-16 at 15:35:02
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Partitions:

  DH0:
    Device          = uaehf.device         Flags:
    Unit            = 1                      Bootable = yes
    Flags           = 0                      Mount    = yes
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 8
    HighCyl         = 312
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DH1:
    Device          = uaehf.device         Flags:
    Unit            = 1                      Bootable = no
    Flags           = 0                      Mount    = yes
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 313
    HighCyl         = 1906
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DH2:
    Device          = uaehf.device         Flags:
    Unit            = 1                      Bootable = no
    Flags           = 0                      Mount    = yes
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 1907
    HighCyl         = 7744
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Sunday, 15-May-16 at 15:35:02
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DOS Devices:

  CC0:
    Device          = carddisk.device
    Unit            = 0
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 1
    SectorsPerBlock = 1          /* 512 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 8
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 0
    HighCyl         = 4
    Buffers         = 5
    BufMemType      = 1          /* PUBLIC */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x00200000
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 3
    DosType         = 0x444F5301 /* DOS1 */
    Baud            = 0
    Control         = 0

  DF0:
    Device          = trackdisk.device
    Unit            = 0
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 2
    SectorsPerBlock = 1          /* 512 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 11
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 0
    HighCyl         = 79
    Buffers         = 5
    BufMemType      = 1          /* PUBLIC */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x00200000
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 5
    DosType         = 0x444F5300 /* DOS0 */
    Baud            = 0
    Control         = 0

  DH2_0: /* PC */
    Device          = uae.device
    Unit            = 2
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 15
    SectorsPerBlock = 1          /* 512 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 127
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 0
    HighCyl         = 1
    Buffers         = 50
    BufMemType      = 1          /* PUBLIC */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x7FFFFFFE
    Mask            = 0xFFFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x444F5300 /* DOS0 */

  DH0: /* System1 */
    Device          = uaehf.device
    Unit            = 0
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 1
    SectorsPerBlock = 1          /* 512 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 32
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 0
    HighCyl         = 31999
    Buffers         = 50
    BufMemType      = 1          /* PUBLIC */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x7FFFFFFF
    Mask            = 0xFFFFFFFF
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x444F5301 /* DOS1 */

  DH0_0: /* System */
    Device          = uaehf.device
    Unit            = 1
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 8
    HighCyl         = 312
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DH1: /* Work */
    Device          = uaehf.device
    Unit            = 1
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 313
    HighCyl         = 1906
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DH2: /* Games */
    Device          = uaehf.device
    Unit            = 1
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 1907
    HighCyl         = 7744
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

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GameBase · 15 May 2016, 16:52

And here is the A1200 report...

Code:

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Monday, 16-Jan-78 at 21:39:12
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Overview:

  Drive      Volume         Capacity  Type  Boot  Device     Unit Loc.  Check
  CC0                          20 KB  DOS1     3  carddisk    0         
  DH0        System           300 MB  CFS0     0< scsi        0         ok
  DH1        Work            1569 MB  CFS0    no  scsi        0         ok
  DH2                        5747 MB  CFS0    no  scsi        0   >4G   *** data at risk ***
  DF0                         880 KB  DOS0     5  trackdisk   0         


System information:

  Kickstart 3.1 version 40.68
  exec.library version 40.10
  dos.library version 40.3
  expansion.library version 40.2
  icon.library version 40.1
  utility.library version 40.1
  intuition.library version 40.85
  graphics.library version 40.24

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Monday, 16-Jan-78 at 21:39:12
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File Systems:

  CFS0  SmartFilesystem                Version   1.277 (Resource) TD64, NSD
  DOS1                                 Version  40.1   (Resource) 
  DOS0  fs                             Version  40.1   (DOS list) 

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Monday, 16-Jan-78 at 21:39:12
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Exec Devices:

  carddisk.device       Unit   0  Version  40.1   (none)

    Geometry:
      SectorSize   : 0
      TotalSectors : 0
      Cylinders    : 0
      CylSectors   : 0
      Heads        : 0
      TrackSectors : 0
      BufMemType   : PUBLIC
      DeviceType   : Direct Access
      Flags        : REMOVABLE
      Capacity     : n/a

  scsi.device           Unit   0  Version  40.12  SCSI

    TD_READ64        check failed with error -3 (command not supported by device)
    NSDCMD_TD_READ64 check failed with error -3 (command not supported by device)

    SCSI:
      Vendor       : CF      
      Product      : CARD            
      Revision     : Ver6
      BlockAddress : 15613919
      BlockLength  : 512
      Capacity     : 7624 MB

    RDSK:                                  Flags:
      Vendor       : Generic                 Last          = yes
      Product      : USB CF Reader           Last LUN      = yes
      Revision     : 1.01                    Last TID      = yes
      Cylinders    : 7745                    Reselect      = yes
      Sectors      : 252                     Disk ID       = not valid
      Heads        : 8                       Controller ID = not valid
      CylBlocks    : 2016                    Synch         = no
      BlockBytes   : 512
      Capacity     : 7624 MB

    FSHD:
      CFS0  L:SmartFilesystem            Version   1.277 Size  98252 Bytes
      DOS3  L:FastFileSystem             Version  45.13  Size  26468 Bytes

    last readable block using CMD_READ:           8388607 (4096 MB)
    last readable block using HD_SCSICMD:        15613919 (7624 MB)

  trackdisk.device      Unit   0  Version  40.1   (none)

    Geometry:
      SectorSize   : 512
      TotalSectors : 1760
      Cylinders    : 80
      CylSectors   : 22
      Heads        : 2
      TrackSectors : 11
      BufMemType   : PUBLIC
      DeviceType   : Direct Access
      Flags        : REMOVABLE
      Capacity     : 880 KB

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Monday, 16-Jan-78 at 21:39:12
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Partitions:

  DH0:
    Device          = scsi.device          Flags:
    Unit            = 0                      Bootable = yes
    Flags           = 0                      Mount    = yes
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 8
    HighCyl         = 312
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DH1:
    Device          = scsi.device          Flags:
    Unit            = 0                      Bootable = no
    Flags           = 0                      Mount    = yes
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 313
    HighCyl         = 1906
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DH2:
    Device          = scsi.device          Flags:
    Unit            = 0                      Bootable = no
    Flags           = 0                      Mount    = yes
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 1907
    HighCyl         = 7744
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

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Report generated by HDDReport version 1.7 on Monday, 16-Jan-78 at 21:39:12
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DOS Devices:

  CC0:
    Device          = carddisk.device
    Unit            = 0
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 1
    SectorsPerBlock = 1          /* 512 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 8
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 0
    HighCyl         = 4
    Buffers         = 5
    BufMemType      = 1          /* PUBLIC */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x00200000
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 3
    DosType         = 0x444F5301 /* DOS1 */
    Baud            = 0
    Control         = 0

  DH0: /* System */
    Device          = scsi.device
    Unit            = 0
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 8
    HighCyl         = 312
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DH1: /* Work */
    Device          = scsi.device
    Unit            = 0
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 313
    HighCyl         = 1906
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DH2:
    Device          = scsi.device
    Unit            = 0
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 8
    SectorsPerBlock = 2          /* 1024 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 252
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 1907
    HighCyl         = 7744
    Buffers         = 80
    BufMemType      = 0          /* ANY */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x0001FE00
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 0
    DosType         = 0x43465300 /* CFS0 */

  DF0:
    Device          = trackdisk.device
    Unit            = 0
    Flags           = 0
    SectorSize      = 512
    Surfaces        = 2
    SectorsPerBlock = 1          /* 512 bytes */
    SectorsPerTrack = 11
    Reserved        = 2
    PreAlloc        = 0
    Interleave      = 0
    LowCyl          = 0
    HighCyl         = 79
    Buffers         = 5
    BufMemType      = 1          /* PUBLIC */
    MaxTransfer     = 0x00200000
    Mask            = 0x7FFFFFFE
    BootPri         = 5
    DosType         = 0x444F5300 /* DOS0 */
    Baud            = 0
    Control         = 0

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End of report
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thomas · 15 May 2016, 17:25

Your problem is indeed the missing update of scsi.device and/or the fact that you use SFS.

SFS can only work with large harddrives if scsi.device is updated.

That it works in WinUAE is because your config is inaccurate. If you'd choose an A1200 config and changed the HDD's controller from UAE to IDE, then you would have the same problem in WinUAE, too.

SFS is a disadvantageous choice for such a small CF card. Up to 8000 MB can be used without an update for scsi.device if the file system uses SCSI commands. PFS3AIO does this for example. With PFS3AIO you could use the entire CF card without any other patch.

If you don't want to reformat the CF card you could try NSDPatch. It changes scsi.device so that NSD commands like used by SFS are translated into SCSI commands which scsi.device supports. 8000 MB is still the limit, though.

GameBase · 15 May 2016, 17:43

Thanks - I see. Any reason you can think of why this was working until I replaced my accelerator?

I'm quite new to all of this - would you mind giving me a pointer or two on where or find/how to apply the nsdpatch?

Thanks again.

fitzsteve · 15 May 2016, 17:47

When I setup your CF card I probably used the Maprom function of your ACA card to patch the scsi.device (assuming you had the ACA at the time I set it up)

I probably used SFS for your card if it was a few years ago, last two years it would have been PFS3 AIO (this probably did not exist when I setup your card)

edit: look in Devs: do you have a .rom file in there?

If it's classic workbench you can drop an updated scsi.device right in there and it will take care of patching for you.

GameBase · 15 May 2016, 18:04

Hi Steve,

You probably don't remember me, I came to yours and you installed the card when I had the accelerator... and you sold me a CM-8833 also

I don't have a .rom file in Devs.

I already tried copying A1200IDE.scsi.device from System:MyFiles/LargeHD/128GB_Support/SCSI_v43_24/Patched/ (and renaming it scsi.device), but on reboot this just guru meditations until I remove that file again.

Cheers

GameBase · 15 May 2016, 18:48

Just to say... If getting this to work is not easy, I'm ok with re-formatting and setting up from scratch again with PFS3 AIO. I'll check for a guide on how to do that. I'd rather get it to work tho

fitzsteve · 15 May 2016, 19:08

43.24 has some issues with some CF cards, try 43.45

GameBase · 15 May 2016, 19:36

Thanks - same guru meditation with 43.45. I assume I am doing it correctly? I am just copying the A1200 file from the folder in System:MyFiles/LargeHD/128GB_Support for the version you mentioned, then renaming in Devs to scsi.device. Then just rebooting.

Cheers

fitzsteve · 15 May 2016, 19:50

Power down the amiga fully after you install the scsi.device file. If you still get the guru then you could try one of the others. I'd be happy to setup the card with pfs3 aio for you if you can't resolve.

GameBase · 15 May 2016, 20:53

Thanks for the offer... I've just watched your youtube tutorial here [ Show youtube player ]

I think I'll try this myself. I don't think I have the pfs3_aio-handler file though. I'll be trying it with the full classic workbench v28 (I have WB 3.1 disks). Could you please point me to the psf3 file?

Thanks again

ptyerman · 16 May 2016, 06:54

PFS3_AIO can be found here: http://aminet.net/search?query=pfs3aio.
Would have posted this last night but Aminet was down for some reason.

14 May 2016, 21:15	#1
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	issues on real amiga with 8gb cf drive Hi I've setup ClassicWB on an 8GB flash drive with a 'Games' drive as DH2. It's all working fine in WinUAE - the drive boots up perfectly. I can run igame, select all WHDLoad games and run them fine. There are "System", "Work" and "Games" icons on the desktop (with the whdload games in "Games"). On my A1200 though the 'Games' drive fails to show up on the desktop, and igame just asks me to insert A-Games every time a game is clicked in the list. Any ideas? Thanks

14 May 2016, 23:37	#5
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	Hi I've not touched anything in WB since it was working. Hardware wise, I'm running an A1200 with 2mb chip ram. Hmm... I have changed the accelerator I'm using though since my old ACA1231 with 64mb ram failed. Looking back I wouldn't be surprised if it's been since then that the "Games" drive has not been showing up, but I can't say for certain if that's the case. It's been replaced with a blizzard 1230-MKII with 32mb ram. version scsi.device outputs version 40.12 typing dh2: in a shell shows me "dh2:: not enough memory available". Last edited by GameBase; 14 May 2016 at 23:38. Reason: typo

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14 May 2016, 21:33	#2
supaduper Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Krypton Posts: 1,210	If you have used the FFS filestystem then you have hit the classic 4gb barrier that that filesystem has, reformat the CF using the PFS3 aio filesystem and copy your backup to the new CF using Dopus or just drag and drop and this will solve your problem

14 May 2016, 21:55	#3
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	Hi Thanks - what actually happened was that this was previously working on the A1200 (setup by fitzsteve some years ago), but then one day the "games" drive was no longer showing up on ClassicWB (after months of it being fine). So I thought I'd test it by loading it in WinUAE. It shows up and works fine in that, so I don't understand what's wrong..

14 May 2016, 23:26	#4
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	Was the card previously FFS when it was working or did you prep a new card to use? Also were you using loadmodule and an updated scsi.device to get the extra partitions up? maybe you have accidentally edited it out of your startup sequence or deleted/moved the scsi.device file from devs?

15 May 2016, 01:10	#6
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1082420&postcount=2

15 May 2016, 14:59	#8
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	I tried replacing the scsi.device as per the tutorial video on the classicwb site, but on rebooting I get the guru meditation . I'll run hddreport and post the output as suggested thanks.

15 May 2016, 17:25	#11
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	Your problem is indeed the missing update of scsi.device and/or the fact that you use SFS. SFS can only work with large harddrives if scsi.device is updated. That it works in WinUAE is because your config is inaccurate. If you'd choose an A1200 config and changed the HDD's controller from UAE to IDE, then you would have the same problem in WinUAE, too. SFS is a disadvantageous choice for such a small CF card. Up to 8000 MB can be used without an update for scsi.device if the file system uses SCSI commands. PFS3AIO does this for example. With PFS3AIO you could use the entire CF card without any other patch. If you don't want to reformat the CF card you could try NSDPatch. It changes scsi.device so that NSD commands like used by SFS are translated into SCSI commands which scsi.device supports. 8000 MB is still the limit, though.

15 May 2016, 17:43	#12
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	Thanks - I see. Any reason you can think of why this was working until I replaced my accelerator? I'm quite new to all of this - would you mind giving me a pointer or two on where or find/how to apply the nsdpatch? Thanks again.

15 May 2016, 17:47	#13
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	When I setup your CF card I probably used the Maprom function of your ACA card to patch the scsi.device (assuming you had the ACA at the time I set it up) I probably used SFS for your card if it was a few years ago, last two years it would have been PFS3 AIO (this probably did not exist when I setup your card) edit: look in Devs: do you have a .rom file in there? If it's classic workbench you can drop an updated scsi.device right in there and it will take care of patching for you.

15 May 2016, 18:04	#14
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	Hi Steve, You probably don't remember me, I came to yours and you installed the card when I had the accelerator... and you sold me a CM-8833 also I don't have a .rom file in Devs. I already tried copying A1200IDE.scsi.device from System:MyFiles/LargeHD/128GB_Support/SCSI_v43_24/Patched/ (and renaming it scsi.device), but on reboot this just guru meditations until I remove that file again. Cheers

15 May 2016, 18:48	#15
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	Just to say... If getting this to work is not easy, I'm ok with re-formatting and setting up from scratch again with PFS3 AIO. I'll check for a guide on how to do that. I'd rather get it to work tho

15 May 2016, 19:08	#16
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	43.24 has some issues with some CF cards, try 43.45

15 May 2016, 19:36	#17
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	Thanks - same guru meditation with 43.45. I assume I am doing it correctly? I am just copying the A1200 file from the folder in System:MyFiles/LargeHD/128GB_Support for the version you mentioned, then renaming in Devs to scsi.device. Then just rebooting. Cheers

15 May 2016, 19:50	#18
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Power down the amiga fully after you install the scsi.device file. If you still get the guru then you could try one of the others. I'd be happy to setup the card with pfs3 aio for you if you can't resolve.

15 May 2016, 20:53	#19
GameBase James Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Folkestone, England Age: 50 Posts: 55	Thanks for the offer... I've just watched your youtube tutorial here [ Show youtube player ] I think I'll try this myself. I don't think I have the pfs3_aio-handler file though. I'll be trying it with the full classic workbench v28 (I have WB 3.1 disks). Could you please point me to the psf3 file? Thanks again

16 May 2016, 06:54	#20
ptyerman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Worksop/UK Age: 59 Posts: 1,328	PFS3_AIO can be found here: http://aminet.net/search?query=pfs3aio. Would have posted this last night but Aminet was down for some reason.

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