Can't save pictures in Deluxe Paint

Nightfox · 28 August 2017, 14:24

I'm experiencing an annoying issue wth DPaint. Whenever I try to save my image to my hard drive (a CF card with internal CF to IDE adapter) it just comes up with an error message saying DOS I/O error. The way I was getting around this issue is saving the image to my RAM disk then moving the file to my hard drive manually. Does DPaint not like CF cards? I experience the same issue with both DPaint IV and V.

Galahad/FLT · 28 August 2017, 14:44

Run snoopdos in the background and see what that tells you about the file creation failure.

Solo Kazuki · 28 August 2017, 15:12

I bet it's problem with too long path. How deep is (as path) place where you try to save? Is this problem occur when you try to save in main directory of hard disk?

Nightfox · 28 August 2017, 20:46

https://pasteboard.co/GHMpOBn.jpg

That’s what snoopdos shows.

No I am saving to a small path which is Work:Pictures and it occurs on the root directory too

Estrayk · 28 August 2017, 22:40

maybe a problem with iffparse.library ?

Amiga1992 · 28 August 2017, 23:26

I will guess here because you didn 't post the info but thes creenshot tells: are you running this on OS3.9+KS3.1, and Deluxe Paint IV?

First of all, I will suggest you using Deluxe Paint V. IV had some issues on newer machines if it wasn't the fixed version.

It might not be compatible with the 3.9 one. Just guessing, I have NO idea of 3.9 really.

Daedalus · 29 August 2017, 13:44

It could be a problem with it not liking large partitions, if it implements its own saving routines instead of using the system ones. In that case it's not CF-specific problem, but an issue with any hard drive partition above 4GB (or 2GB, depending on implementation). DPaint is somewhat system-unfriendly in some ways, so it could be that. SnoopDOS does show it's successfully opening the file for writing, so the issue is within DPaint itself.

Amiga1992 · 29 August 2017, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus

DPaint is somewhat system-unfriendly in some ways, so it could be that.

Yeah, but I think they made it "better" with version V, this is why I suggested the change. IV is just too old to be run on such a new OS. Best to update the version before doing any more tests.

You also have the option to use Cloanto's Personal Paint. Version 7.1c is free to download here: http://www.ppaint.com/

Nightfox · 29 August 2017, 17:39

As I said in my first post, I experience the same issue with DPaint V too so it's not just IV that has issues. My partition is smaller than 4GB in size. I am indeed running on OS 3.9 with KS 3.1

Daedalus · 29 August 2017, 18:02

Is it smaller than 2GB? If DPaint uses signed integers for its disk operations, it can think that a partition is full if it is between 2 and 4GB.

Nightfox · 29 August 2017, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus

Is it smaller than 2GB? If DPaint uses signed integers for its disk operations, it can think that a partition is full if it is between 2 and 4GB.

That might be it, it's larger than 2GB

ProdigalAmigan · 10 December 2017, 19:57

Did you ever find a solution to this issue?
I am wondering since I am facing the same.
Running AmigaOS 3.9 with PFS3 file system.
Also tried saving straight to a floppy disk, to the RAM drive etc but no go.

Galahad/FLT · 10 December 2017, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProdigalAmigan

Did you ever find a solution to this issue?
I am wondering since I am facing the same.
Running AmigaOS 3.9 with PFS3 file system.
Also tried saving straight to a floppy disk, to the RAM drive etc but no go.

Pretty sure it was something to do with iffparse.library

kolla · 11 December 2017, 04:03

Yeah, BB3+4 clutter. iffparse.library from the leaked OS3.1 sources.

The archive contains not just 3.1 sources, but also some work-in-progress updates, like the bugged iffparse.library and more.

emufan · 11 December 2017, 10:17

BB3+4 includes iffparse.library 40.1 - no problem when saving with DPaint IV.
must be something else. I already had the same lib version in my system (wb kick 3.1),
but not sure, where it came from.

#1) dpaint4 opens those libs/devs after start (snoopdos):
graphics.library
intuition.library
icon.library
layers.library
diskfont.library
timer.device

Nightfox · 11 December 2017, 17:07

I have switched to using Personal Paint. The latest version of that is free and contains a lot of nice features that DPaint doesn't have like dealing with PNG/JPG file formats

ProdigalAmigan · 27 December 2017, 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Pretty sure it was something to do with iffparse.library

You wouldn't happen to know what you did to fix the issue?

Do I perhaps need to downgrade/upgrade the iffparse.library to get it to play nice? As far as I remember I put all of the BoingBags in when I installed AmigaOS 3.9 so could be that wrecked something if one of the Boingbags came with a buggy iffparse.library....

Galahad/FLT · 27 December 2017, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProdigalAmigan

You wouldn't happen to know what you did to fix the issue?

Do I perhaps need to downgrade/upgrade the iffparse.library to get it to play nice? As far as I remember I put all of the BoingBags in when I installed AmigaOS 3.9 so could be that wrecked something if one of the Boingbags came with a buggy iffparse.library....

Pretty sure it was Estrayk figured it out. He's in this thread as well.

Estrayk · 28 December 2017, 01:11

Yes, Galahad is right.

check this post:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=52707&page=21
#418 and #419

Anyway, I told it in this thread 28th august. check #5

ProdigalAmigan · 29 December 2017, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estrayk

Yes, Galahad is right.

check this post:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=52707&page=21
#418 and #419

Thank you Estrayk (and Galahad) for helping me sort this out. I did check out the link above and downloaded the (updated) BoingBag3&4.lha, now question is, should I install the updated BoingBag3&4 on top of my current AmigaOS 3.9 install on my Amiga 1200 or could I just replace the iffparse.library from the updated Boingbag on the system to get things working?

11 December 2017, 10:17	#15
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	BB3+4 includes iffparse.library 40.1 - no problem when saving with DPaint IV. must be something else. I already had the same lib version in my system (wb kick 3.1), but not sure, where it came from. #1) dpaint4 opens those libs/devs after start (snoopdos): graphics.library intuition.library icon.library layers.library diskfont.library timer.device Last edited by emufan; 11 December 2017 at 11:38.

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28 August 2017, 14:24	#1
Nightfox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 396	Can't save pictures in Deluxe Paint I'm experiencing an annoying issue wth DPaint. Whenever I try to save my image to my hard drive (a CF card with internal CF to IDE adapter) it just comes up with an error message saying DOS I/O error. The way I was getting around this issue is saving the image to my RAM disk then moving the file to my hard drive manually. Does DPaint not like CF cards? I experience the same issue with both DPaint IV and V.

28 August 2017, 14:44	#2
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,014	Run snoopdos in the background and see what that tells you about the file creation failure.

28 August 2017, 15:12	#3
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,303	I bet it's problem with too long path. How deep is (as path) place where you try to save? Is this problem occur when you try to save in main directory of hard disk?

28 August 2017, 20:46	#4
Nightfox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 396	https://pasteboard.co/GHMpOBn.jpg That’s what snoopdos shows. No I am saving to a small path which is Work:Pictures and it occurs on the root directory too

28 August 2017, 22:40	#5
Estrayk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Spain Posts: 514	maybe a problem with iffparse.library ?

28 August 2017, 23:26	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	I will guess here because you didn 't post the info but thes creenshot tells: are you running this on OS3.9+KS3.1, and Deluxe Paint IV? First of all, I will suggest you using Deluxe Paint V. IV had some issues on newer machines if it wasn't the fixed version. It might not be compatible with the 3.9 one. Just guessing, I have NO idea of 3.9 really.

29 August 2017, 13:44	#7
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,368	It could be a problem with it not liking large partitions, if it implements its own saving routines instead of using the system ones. In that case it's not CF-specific problem, but an issue with any hard drive partition above 4GB (or 2GB, depending on implementation). DPaint is somewhat system-unfriendly in some ways, so it could be that. SnoopDOS does show it's successfully opening the file for writing, so the issue is within DPaint itself.

29 August 2017, 17:39	#9
Nightfox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 396	As I said in my first post, I experience the same issue with DPaint V too so it's not just IV that has issues. My partition is smaller than 4GB in size. I am indeed running on OS 3.9 with KS 3.1

29 August 2017, 18:02	#10
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,368	Is it smaller than 2GB? If DPaint uses signed integers for its disk operations, it can think that a partition is full if it is between 2 and 4GB.

10 December 2017, 19:57	#12
ProdigalAmigan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 105	Did you ever find a solution to this issue? I am wondering since I am facing the same. Running AmigaOS 3.9 with PFS3 file system. Also tried saving straight to a floppy disk, to the RAM drive etc but no go.

11 December 2017, 04:03	#14
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	Yeah, BB3+4 clutter. iffparse.library from the leaked OS3.1 sources. The archive contains not just 3.1 sources, but also some work-in-progress updates, like the bugged iffparse.library and more.

11 December 2017, 17:07	#16
Nightfox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 396	I have switched to using Personal Paint. The latest version of that is free and contains a lot of nice features that DPaint doesn't have like dealing with PNG/JPG file formats

28 December 2017, 01:11	#19
Estrayk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Spain Posts: 514	Yes, Galahad is right. check this post: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=52707&page=21 #418 and #419 Anyway, I told it in this thread 28th august. check #5

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