Shinobi WHDLoad

T_hairy_bootson · 01 April 2005, 17:13

Having problems getting shinobi running on a 1meg chip, 8meg A2000 with wb2.05.

If I press the firebutton to start the game it freezes on a black screen and the df0: drive light turns on. If I leave the title running it goes through the rolling demo fine. The included txt file mentions nothing about incompatibilities, just wondering if there is any thing I am doing wrong?

Other games also seem to have various problems on my setup like barbarian which gurus when touching the keyboard (F1 or F2 or any key for that matter).

Are the majority of Whdload scripts not meant for 68000s with 1meg chip? or am I just doing something wrong?

killergorilla · 01 April 2005, 17:16

I've been helping (if you can call it that) trying to get this to work.

I installed it again from the whdload install and the caps image with no luck. Running in winuae (with an a2000 config + 8mb fastram) caused winuae either to crash with some damn awful noises and a minidump, or caused whdload to crash back to workbench.

jotd · 25 April 2005, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

I've been helping (if you can call it that) trying to get this to work.

I installed it again from the whdload install and the caps image with no luck. Running in winuae (with an a2000 config + 8mb fastram) caused winuae either to crash with some damn awful noises and a minidump, or caused whdload to crash back to workbench.

Sounds like an unsupported version...

killergorilla · 26 April 2005, 02:11

Ok, i'll send you the caps version if that's ok with you?

Maybe it could be supported?

oissery77 · 24 August 2015, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Sounds like an unsupported version...

Yes it is, i have the same problem on an ECS Agnus A500, you can reproduce it with winuae but with an AGA configuration it works.

Can anyone correct this defect?
Thanks!!

jotd · 21 October 2015, 09:25

I've just tested with 1MB chip 8MB fast 68000 winuae and JST using whdload with 2 different versions and it works (no quit key though, old slave)

*use the newest JST 5.0 downloadable in the zone*

JST shinobi.slave FORCEWHD LOADDIR=datadir

Which SPS version did not work for you?

SolderPCB · 21 October 2015, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

I've just tested with 1MB chip 8MB fast 68000 winuae and JST using whdload with 2 different versions and it works (no quit key though, old slave)

*use the newest JST 5.0 downloadable in the zone*

JST shinobi.slave FORCEWHD LOADDIR=datadir

Which SPS version did not work for you?

Does it support Button 2 for Ninja Magic?

Something Shadow Dancer sorely needs too.

jotd · 21 October 2015, 16:17

CUSTOM3=1 => 2nd button triggers magic

oissery77 · 22 October 2015, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

I've just tested with 1MB chip 8MB fast 68000 winuae and JST using whdload with 2 different versions and it works (no quit key though, old slave)

*use the newest JST 5.0 downloadable in the zone*

JST shinobi.slave FORCEWHD LOADDIR=datadir

Which SPS version did not work for you?

Hi,
I've tested it with this WHDLoad version:
http://www.whdownload.com/games/Pack..._v1.3_1054.zip

Then i opened this defect:
http://mantis.whdload.de/view.php?id=3287

I tried to use the jst exe and i have this error :
"no or wrong arguments given"

I never used jst...

jotd · 22 October 2015, 20:35

Only the version in the zone has "FORCEWHD" tooltype

oissery77 · 22 October 2015, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Only the version in the zone has "FORCEWHD" tooltype

thanks for your answer, it is the one in the zone

maybe i'm wrong in the use of jst:
i've copied the jst exe into the shinobi whdload folder
command in the shell (i've changed the datadir with the correct folder):
JST shinobi.slave FORCEWHD LOADDIR=datadir

jotd · 23 October 2015, 08:27

I have uploaded another update in the zone.
FORCEWHD can be omitted now.

oissery77 · 23 October 2015, 19:11

thanks i've tested with the last jst in the zone, command:
JST shinobi.slave

Error in shell:
Jst does not support this whdload slave yet (try FORCEWHD)

jotd · 23 October 2015, 21:58

You have to set FORCEWHD, sorry! this time it'll work.

oissery77 · 24 October 2015, 09:38

ok with this command the games is launched:
jst shinobi.slave forcewhd

but with ks2.04 i have same issues, after hitting press button on title screen it freezes (but ok on KS3.1)

jotd · 24 October 2015, 11:05

Interesting. And what about the CPU/mem? winuae/real amiga? WHDLoad should work in that configuration right?

Now that I have WinUAE I can test more... The main goal of JST now is to make games work with kickstart 1.3. without winuae I would never have resurrected the project.
(one of the reasons why I gave up the project is that JST had trouble with newest amigas/MMU/PFS...)

oissery77 · 24 October 2015, 14:15

Without jst i have the same issue on winuae or with the real hardware:
68k A500 ecs agnus 1mo chip, rev6a and 8mb fast ram, ks2.04. Whdload is working great for other ocs/ecs games.
On same config with ks3.1 shinobi is ok on winuae but not tested yet on real hardware.

jotd · 24 October 2015, 22:54

Hi,

Just tested Shinobi with JST & 2.04 works fine. Maybe you have an unsupported version / an outdated slave. Slave supports 2 versions. BTW download the newest slave with quitkey for 68000 machines on whdload page.

I have re-upped a new JST version with a small fix. Still, it's locking up after quitting (only on kick 2+, OK on kick 1.3!!) and there are other (long-time remaining) problems, but first time you run it it works (and then you have to reset)

TjLaZer · 25 October 2015, 02:25

I just tested Shinobi from all the sources I have found online and the problem is it needs the PAL tool type to run! Even though the game is clearly NTSC. Must be from a european version? Anyways I grabbed my original Shinobi disk and DICed it and it now runs in NTSC. In da zone!

jotd · 25 October 2015, 08:49

Oh yeah (well done!!)
and BTW I implemented PAL tooltype on request, and shows on that JST version in 2015 !! better late than never.

01 April 2005, 17:13	#1
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 2,084	Shinobi WHDLoad Having problems getting shinobi running on a 1meg chip, 8meg A2000 with wb2.05. If I press the firebutton to start the game it freezes on a black screen and the df0: drive light turns on. If I leave the title running it goes through the rolling demo fine. The included txt file mentions nothing about incompatibilities, just wondering if there is any thing I am doing wrong? Other games also seem to have various problems on my setup like barbarian which gurus when touching the keyboard (F1 or F2 or any key for that matter). Are the majority of Whdload scripts not meant for 68000s with 1meg chip? or am I just doing something wrong?

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01 April 2005, 17:16	#2
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I've been helping (if you can call it that) trying to get this to work. I installed it again from the whdload install and the caps image with no luck. Running in winuae (with an a2000 config + 8mb fastram) caused winuae either to crash with some damn awful noises and a minidump, or caused whdload to crash back to workbench.

26 April 2005, 02:11	#4
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Ok, i'll send you the caps version if that's ok with you? Maybe it could be supported?

21 October 2015, 09:25	#6
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,173	I've just tested with 1MB chip 8MB fast 68000 winuae and JST using whdload with 2 different versions and it works (no quit key though, old slave) use the newest JST 5.0 downloadable in the zone JST shinobi.slave FORCEWHD LOADDIR=datadir Which SPS version did not work for you?

21 October 2015, 16:17	#8
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,173	CUSTOM3=1 => 2nd button triggers magic

22 October 2015, 20:35	#10
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,173	Only the version in the zone has "FORCEWHD" tooltype

23 October 2015, 08:27	#12
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,173	I have uploaded another update in the zone. FORCEWHD can be omitted now.

23 October 2015, 19:11	#13
oissery77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: france Posts: 124	thanks i've tested with the last jst in the zone, command: JST shinobi.slave Error in shell: Jst does not support this whdload slave yet (try FORCEWHD)

23 October 2015, 21:58	#14
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,173	You have to set FORCEWHD, sorry! this time it'll work.

24 October 2015, 09:38	#15
oissery77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: france Posts: 124	ok with this command the games is launched: jst shinobi.slave forcewhd but with ks2.04 i have same issues, after hitting press button on title screen it freezes (but ok on KS3.1)

24 October 2015, 11:05	#16
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,173	Interesting. And what about the CPU/mem? winuae/real amiga? WHDLoad should work in that configuration right? Now that I have WinUAE I can test more... The main goal of JST now is to make games work with kickstart 1.3. without winuae I would never have resurrected the project. (one of the reasons why I gave up the project is that JST had trouble with newest amigas/MMU/PFS...)

24 October 2015, 14:15	#17
oissery77 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: france Posts: 124	Without jst i have the same issue on winuae or with the real hardware: 68k A500 ecs agnus 1mo chip, rev6a and 8mb fast ram, ks2.04. Whdload is working great for other ocs/ecs games. On same config with ks3.1 shinobi is ok on winuae but not tested yet on real hardware.

24 October 2015, 22:54	#18
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,173	Hi, Just tested Shinobi with JST & 2.04 works fine. Maybe you have an unsupported version / an outdated slave. Slave supports 2 versions. BTW download the newest slave with quitkey for 68000 machines on whdload page. I have re-upped a new JST version with a small fix. Still, it's locking up after quitting (only on kick 2+, OK on kick 1.3!!) and there are other (long-time remaining) problems, but first time you run it it works (and then you have to reset)

25 October 2015, 02:25	#19
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,916	I just tested Shinobi from all the sources I have found online and the problem is it needs the PAL tool type to run! Even though the game is clearly NTSC. Must be from a european version? Anyways I grabbed my original Shinobi disk and DICed it and it now runs in NTSC. In da zone!

25 October 2015, 08:49	#20
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,173	Oh yeah (well done!!) and BTW I implemented PAL tooltype on request, and shows on that JST version in 2015 !! better late than never.

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