SysInfo 4.0 - Page 6

Geijer · 29 December 2015, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy Zapp

Hi. I have both of these and can test it out if it helps. They both have trapdoor RAM but I can remove them if that helps. The 1.2 is a Rev 5 NTSC and the 1.3 is a REV 6 NTSC if that matters.

Perfect, I'll come back with details.

Geijer · 07 January 2016, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy Zapp

Hi. I have both of these and can test it out if it helps. They both have trapdoor RAM but I can remove them if that helps. The 1.2 is a Rev 5 NTSC and the 1.3 is a REV 6 NTSC if that matters.

Hello, sorry for the delay, can you please test

http://sysinfo.d0.se/pub/SysInfo_4.1b15

and see if you get a guru when you shut down SysInfo on A500 with both 1.2 and 1.3 (yes, please remove the trapdoor ram), thanks.

PortuguesePilot · 07 January 2016, 01:23

Works perfectly fine on a real 1MB Amiga 500 (Kickstart 1.3, rev.6a board).

Loaded and worked correctly from both floppy disk drive and Gotek. I haven't disable the trapdoor RAM, though. Maybe I'll do it later.

Thanks for the continued work on SysInfo! Cheers!

Zippy Zapp · 07 January 2016, 01:44

No problem, thanks for continuing to work on it! I will check it out later tonight and report back.

altcomputing · 13 January 2016, 01:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geijer

I still need help testing on unexpanded real A500 with kickstart 1.3 and 1.2.

I can test SysInfo on:

- A500 KS 1.2
- A500 KS 1.3
- A500+ KS 2.04
- A600 KS 2.05
- A1000 KS 1.3
- A1200 KS 3.0
- A1200 KS 3.1, 030
- A2000 KS 3.1, 030
- A3000 KS 3.1, 030
- A4000 KS 3.1, 060

The last beta seems to work on A4000/060, so far this is what i tested.

I would suggest you to paste changelog to beta versions so we know what's changed and what to focus on testing.

Knoeki · 13 January 2016, 18:28

Both the earlier version 4 and this recent one still seem to report the MHz of my CPU as "4". I have
an A3640 with 040->060 adapter.

It does detect that I have an 060 correctly, though.

TjLaZer · 15 January 2016, 03:10

Still doesn't correct the 060 speed either. This should be priority one IMHO.

dannyp1 · 15 January 2016, 13:15

060 speed is probably my number one priority also but that doesn't mean that it is the top priority of the programmer or the rest of the world. I don't think that the 060 problem is an easy fix or it would have been done already. Piru is an excellent programmer and he never could get "Which Amiga" working right.

eXeler0 · 15 January 2016, 13:47

it's a long shot, but why not have a little chat with Gunnar von Bohen over at Apollo-core.com
He has extensive knowledge of the 68xxx.. He might have som clever input... After all he is the brain behind the core thats currently beating the 060 in performance...

Zippy Zapp · 16 January 2016, 03:49

Sorry I got a little delayed and couldn't get to my 2 500s. I plan on testing tomorrow, if all goes well.

eXeler0 · 09 March 2016, 17:59

@Zippy Zapp what happened next?
@Geijer, do you have any plans for Apollo-core detection?
Attn-flags won't cut it, but the CPU has a bunch of instructions that only exist in Apollo-core so it should be doable :-)

Geijer · 09 March 2016, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0

@Geijer, do you have any plans for Apollo-core detection?

Yes, was trying to find information before I'll contact the team but havn't found anything yet. I hope that there is a way to get the firmware version as well

eXeler0 · 09 March 2016, 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geijer

Yes, was trying to find information before I'll contact the team but havn't found anything yet. I hope that there is a way to get the firmware version as well

Have you checked out this page?
http://www.apollo-core.com/index.htm?page=instructions

Geijer · 09 March 2016, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0

Have you checked out this page?
http://www.apollo-core.com/index.htm?page=instructions

Yes, but there is no opcodes, only broken links. I don't know any supported assembler

eXeler0 · 09 March 2016, 20:47

maybe it will save you some time / frustration if you simply ask Gunnar in forums, he usually shares snippets of code.

Cylon · 09 March 2016, 21:11

Is already known how to include a more precise MHz calculation into SysInfo? I remember CPUSPEED was very accurate even with overclocked 060'. Maybe the coder of this tool could help.

eXeler0 · 09 March 2016, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cylon

Is already known how to include a more precise MHz calculation into SysInfo? I remember CPUSPEED was very accurate even with overclocked 060'. Maybe the coder of this tool could help.

I don't think its that hard, for a programmer, to write a bit of code that repeats some simple instruction that will require a known amount of CPU cycles to calculate the MHz.
And if you were referring to Joerg Richter then finding him is probably a lot more work than writing the code

TjLaZer · 10 March 2016, 05:45

Lets fix 060 speed first please.

supaduper · 10 March 2016, 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geijer

Yes, was trying to find information before I'll contact the team but havn't found anything yet. I hope that there is a way to get the firmware version as well

Yes that will be great as at the moment there is no way to tell what firmware revision is on the Vamp II

TuKo · 03 April 2016, 15:25

Tried 4.1b15 on Vampire with latest SILVER3 core. It works.

If you want, we can help with core recognition, we already have tools to get those strings displayed on CLI.

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07 January 2016, 01:23	#103
PortuguesePilot Global Moderator Join Date: May 2013 Location: Setúbal, Portugal Posts: 609	Works perfectly fine on a real 1MB Amiga 500 (Kickstart 1.3, rev.6a board). Loaded and worked correctly from both floppy disk drive and Gotek. I haven't disable the trapdoor RAM, though. Maybe I'll do it later. Thanks for the continued work on SysInfo! Cheers!

07 January 2016, 01:44	#104
Zippy Zapp Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: CA/USA Posts: 346	No problem, thanks for continuing to work on it! I will check it out later tonight and report back.

13 January 2016, 18:28	#106
Knoeki Princess Knoeki Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Amsterdam Age: 34 Posts: 38	Both the earlier version 4 and this recent one still seem to report the MHz of my CPU as "4". I have an A3640 with 040->060 adapter. It does detect that I have an 060 correctly, though.

15 January 2016, 03:10	#107
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	Still doesn't correct the 060 speed either. This should be priority one IMHO.

15 January 2016, 13:15	#108
dannyp1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 168	060 speed is probably my number one priority also but that doesn't mean that it is the top priority of the programmer or the rest of the world. I don't think that the 060 problem is an easy fix or it would have been done already. Piru is an excellent programmer and he never could get "Which Amiga" working right.

15 January 2016, 13:47	#109
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,946	it's a long shot, but why not have a little chat with Gunnar von Bohen over at Apollo-core.com He has extensive knowledge of the 68xxx.. He might have som clever input... After all he is the brain behind the core thats currently beating the 060 in performance...

16 January 2016, 03:49	#110
Zippy Zapp Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: CA/USA Posts: 346	Sorry I got a little delayed and couldn't get to my 2 500s. I plan on testing tomorrow, if all goes well.

09 March 2016, 17:59	#111
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,946	@Zippy Zapp what happened next? @Geijer, do you have any plans for Apollo-core detection? Attn-flags won't cut it, but the CPU has a bunch of instructions that only exist in Apollo-core so it should be doable :-)

09 March 2016, 20:47	#115
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,946	maybe it will save you some time / frustration if you simply ask Gunnar in forums, he usually shares snippets of code.

09 March 2016, 21:11	#116
Cylon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Europe Posts: 470	Is already known how to include a more precise MHz calculation into SysInfo? I remember CPUSPEED was very accurate even with overclocked 060'. Maybe the coder of this tool could help.

10 March 2016, 05:45	#118
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	Lets fix 060 speed first please.

03 April 2016, 15:25	#120
TuKo Apollo Team Join Date: May 2014 Location: not far Posts: 379	Tried 4.1b15 on Vampire with latest SILVER3 core. It works. If you want, we can help with core recognition, we already have tools to get those strings displayed on CLI.

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