Picasso96 with uaegfx Z3 RTG: 32bit limited to 1024x2048?

hexaae · 14 July 2018, 18:12

Today I noticed a strange thing: I can't select screenmodes in real 1920x1080 at 32bit (or 24bit changing some RTG WinUAE settings). Modes higher than 64K have max limited screen size of 1024x2048… I need 1920 horizontally! Of course I've set RTG Z3 mem up to 512MB but didn't help.

Why this? How can I make WB actually see real 1920x1080 at 24/32bit?

Toni Wilen · 14 July 2018, 18:24

Usual information needed... But it sounds like you don't really have RTG RAM size you think you have. Or you have too many monitor drivers enabled and there is some total mode number limit?

hexaae · 14 July 2018, 19:10

ALL 32bit modes have 1024 horizontal limit which is quite strange:

No, I have only PAL + NTSC + uaegfx in DEVS:Monitors (ignore that UAEp mode, I was trying editing a Picasso custom mode without success… I have deleted DEVS:PicassoSettings). The strange thing is that WB runs in 1920x1080 anyway, but I can't choose that 32bit res for gfx programs that will force open max 1024x1920 32bit screens (!??)… All 64K screens listed have 2048x2048 max limit instead.

EDIT: attached logs + cfg https://nofile.io/f/DD9khMRbZ2J/winuaelog.zip

EDIT2: Overscan reports correct size

Toni Wilen · 14 July 2018, 20:15

Nothing wrong in the log..

But minimum horizontal makes no sense, it should be at least 4096 (and is here). Some Amiga side conflict/bug/incorrect something I guess..

thomas · 14 July 2018, 20:50

There is picasso96fix in WinUAE's Amiga Programs folder. It fixes the issue.

hexaae · 14 July 2018, 21:30

Can't find it in WinUAE's Amiga Programs folder

EDIT: found picassofix96 in very old WinUAE1000.zip from SourceForge: https://sourceforge.net/projects/winuae/files/WinUAE/
and… it does work!

Thank you thomas!

@Toni
Why has it been removed from recent archives?

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 July 2018, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

Why has it been removed from recent archives?

HERE in the version of winUAE 1.4.3 it was said that "picasso96fix" was obsolete with the improvement of the "rtg.library"
I do not use picasso96fix and I have all the resolutions available!

----------- Italiano ----------

QUI nella versione di winUAE 1.4.3 si diceva che "picasso96fix" era obsoleto con il miglioramento della "rtg.library"
Io non uso picasso96fix ed ho tutte le risoluzioni disponibili !

PeterK · 16 July 2018, 13:15

This is correct for the rtg.library from the older WinUAE versions, as supplied in "Amiga programs" drawer. Then I even get a maxsize of 12288x2048!

But this fix is not implemented in other rtg.library versions and the one from WinUAE has also other bugs like corrupted graphics or crashes with FlashMandelNG on planar screens with P96:

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...4&postcount=23

Conclusion: There no rtg.library that works perfectly.

BastyCDGS · 16 July 2018, 14:51

Hi!

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

There is picasso96fix in WinUAE's Amiga Programs folder. It fixes the issue.

I had the same problem, also. Increasing RTG graphics memory to 16/32 MB (not sure which value it was) solved the issue for me. There's no need for the picasso96fix tool.

PeterK · 16 July 2018, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastyCDGS

There's no need for the picasso96fix tool.

Of course you need enough RTG memory, but it also depends on the code of your rtg.library whether you need picasso96fix or not. Unfortunately, there are several different rtg.libraries with exactly the same version number.

hexaae · 16 July 2018, 16:40

At this point we need to find out what's the best mix of:

libs/Picasso96/emulation.library
libs/Picasso96/rtg.library
picasso96API.library

to workaround this 1024 limit, without picassofix96. Please, list your installed versions + file size.
Latest P96 I've found is here: http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 July 2018, 17:18

I use the package Unofficial "Picasso96-2_1.e" linked to you.

keith.f.kelly · 07 October 2018, 07:30

I'm having the same exact problem w/ AmigaOS 3.1.4 + Picasso96 2.1e (unofficial) + Z3 RTG w/ 128MB, using WinUAE x64 4.0.1.

What exactly *is* picasso96fix? Is it compatible with AmigaOS 3.1.4? Should I need it?

EDIT: Looks like I needed it. I downloaded and extracted it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/win...0.zip/download, ran it, and now ScreenMode reports a max size of 4096x4096 for the 24-bit and 32-bit modes.

-Acid- · 05 January 2019, 02:25

Where can you download P96 2.1e now? http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm just links to icomp website with no file to be found. I can only find one hit when I google for it... is there any reason it's not on Aminet?

grelbfarlk · 05 January 2019, 03:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Acid-

Where can you download P96 2.1e now? http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm just links to icomp website with no file to be found. I can only find one hit when I google for it... is there any reason it's not on Aminet?

It is up on the EAB ftp, but what you have above is the only place I knew of to get it.

I guess the waybackmachine too:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170726.../Picasso96.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/20170726...so96-2_1.e.zip

-Acid- · 05 January 2019, 14:13

Way back, didn't think of that thanks

14 July 2018, 18:12	#1
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	[SOLVED] Picasso96 with uaegfx Z3 RTG: 32bit limited to 1024x2048? Today I noticed a strange thing: I can't select screenmodes in real 1920x1080 at 32bit (or 24bit changing some RTG WinUAE settings). Modes higher than 64K have max limited screen size of 1024x2048… I need 1920 horizontally! Of course I've set RTG Z3 mem up to 512MB but didn't help. Why this? How can I make WB actually see real 1920x1080 at 24/32bit? Last edited by hexaae; 15 July 2018 at 22:00.

14 July 2018, 19:10	#3
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	ALL 32bit modes have 1024 horizontal limit which is quite strange: No, I have only PAL + NTSC + uaegfx in DEVS:Monitors (ignore that UAEp mode, I was trying editing a Picasso custom mode without success… I have deleted DEVS:PicassoSettings). The strange thing is that WB runs in 1920x1080 anyway, but I can't choose that 32bit res for gfx programs that will force open max 1024x1920 32bit screens (!??)… All 64K screens listed have 2048x2048 max limit instead. EDIT: attached logs + cfg https://nofile.io/f/DD9khMRbZ2J/winuaelog.zip EDIT2: Overscan reports correct size Last edited by hexaae; 14 July 2018 at 19:17.

14 July 2018, 21:30	#6
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	Can't find it in WinUAE's Amiga Programs folder EDIT: found picassofix96 in very old WinUAE1000.zip from SourceForge: https://sourceforge.net/projects/winuae/files/WinUAE/ and… it does work! Thank you thomas! @Toni Why has it been removed from recent archives? Last edited by hexaae; 14 July 2018 at 22:03.

16 July 2018, 13:15	#8
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	This is correct for the rtg.library from the older WinUAE versions, as supplied in "Amiga programs" drawer. Then I even get a maxsize of 12288x2048! But this fix is not implemented in other rtg.library versions and the one from WinUAE has also other bugs like corrupted graphics or crashes with FlashMandelNG on planar screens with P96: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...4&postcount=23 Conclusion: There no rtg.library that works perfectly. Last edited by PeterK; 16 July 2018 at 13:21.

16 July 2018, 17:18	#12
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	I use the package Unofficial "Picasso96-2_1.e" linked to you. Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 19 July 2018 at 19:36.

14 July 2018, 18:24	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Usual information needed... But it sounds like you don't really have RTG RAM size you think you have. Or you have too many monitor drivers enabled and there is some total mode number limit?

14 July 2018, 20:15	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Nothing wrong in the log.. But minimum horizontal makes no sense, it should be at least 4096 (and is here). Some Amiga side conflict/bug/incorrect something I guess..

14 July 2018, 20:50	#5
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	There is picasso96fix in WinUAE's Amiga Programs folder. It fixes the issue.

16 July 2018, 16:40	#11
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	At this point we need to find out what's the best mix of: libs/Picasso96/emulation.library libs/Picasso96/rtg.library picasso96API.library to workaround this 1024 limit, without picassofix96. Please, list your installed versions + file size. Latest P96 I've found is here: http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm

07 October 2018, 07:30	#13
keith.f.kelly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Sammamish, WA, USA Posts: 13	I'm having the same exact problem w/ AmigaOS 3.1.4 + Picasso96 2.1e (unofficial) + Z3 RTG w/ 128MB, using WinUAE x64 4.0.1. What exactly is picasso96fix? Is it compatible with AmigaOS 3.1.4? Should I need it? EDIT: Looks like I needed it. I downloaded and extracted it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/win...0.zip/download, ran it, and now ScreenMode reports a max size of 4096x4096 for the 24-bit and 32-bit modes. Last edited by keith.f.kelly; 07 October 2018 at 10:17.

05 January 2019, 02:25	#14
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	Where can you download P96 2.1e now? http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm just links to icomp website with no file to be found. I can only find one hit when I google for it... is there any reason it's not on Aminet?

05 January 2019, 14:13	#16
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	Way back, didn't think of that thanks

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