Scanlines or NO scanlines? - Page 12

Retro-Nerd · 31 March 2007, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Very, very nice Ultron.. Probably as close as you will ever get to an arcade monitor

Now, if only we could convince Toni to implement this feature

A scanline brightness slider begging poll?

Duke · 31 March 2007, 00:28

Ultron: Thats quite dark for some reason, here's how it looks here:

DamienD: I'm using normal MAME without any front-end, just the command line.

DamienD · 31 March 2007, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke

Ultron: Thats quite dark for some reason, here's how it looks here:

DamienD: I'm using normal MAME without any front-end, just the command
line.

Damn Duke, that is HEAVEN and exactly the effect I'm after and the whole point of this thread

This is also very similar to how I remember by beloved A500 looking

Time to ditch MAME32 and go back to MAME (and add a front-end)

Note: to all the non-believers, how can you say no filters / effects (i.e. double pixels) look better than this

Duke · 31 March 2007, 00:46

On a related note, pivot mode rocks: http://home.arcor.de/startaq/DSC00422.JPG

DamienD · 31 March 2007, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke

On a related note, pivot mode rocks: http://home.arcor.de/startaq/DSC00422.JPG

Of course, good for shoot 'em ups mainly

Retro-Nerd · 31 March 2007, 01:06

You probably ticked some wrong boxes, Damien. The overlay PNG's with scanline effects works fine with Mame32 or Mame Plus.

DamienD · 31 March 2007, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

You probably ticked some wrong boxes, Damien. The overlay PNG's with scanline effects works fine with Mame32 or Mame Plus.

Hahaha

Maybe, but I really don't think so...

I've tried all available options... Please PM me the settings that you think will get rid of the "new-ish" scanlines effects you see in post #215 for MAME32 my friend

Ultron · 31 March 2007, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke

On a related note, pivot mode rocks: http://home.arcor.de/startaq/DSC00422.JPG

Oh, HELL YES!

Retro-Nerd · 31 March 2007, 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Hahaha

Maybe, but I really don't think so...

I've tried all available options... Please PM me the settings that you think will get rid of the "new-ish" scanlines effects you see in post #215 for MAME32 my friend

What a lame package, Mame32 lacks some PNG's. Try the attached ones.

DamienD · 31 March 2007, 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

What a lame package, Mame32 lacks some PNG's. Try the attached ones.

Hmmm, true...

It does have .PNGs but not the ones I really want... Only these:

... Aperture1x2rb_Aaron.png
... Aperture1x3rb_Aaron.png
... Aperture2x4bg_Aaron.png
... Aperture2x4rb_Aaron.png
... Aperture4x6_Aaron.png
... ApertureHRES_j4.png
... ApertureMRES_j4.png
... Art_Twisty.png
... Auto_Twisty.png
... Scanlines0x4_j4.png
... Scanlines25x4_j4.png
... Scanlines50x4_j4.png
... Scanlines75Dx4_j4.png
... Scanlines75x2_j4.png
... Scanlines75x3_j4.png
... Scanlines75x4_j4.png
... Scanrez1_Althor.png
... Scanrez2_Althor.png

An example of the scanlines are the ones I posted in #215

That's why it's time for me to switch

Retro-Nerd · 31 March 2007, 01:32

Try the attached ones, works fine here. And yes, WITH Mame32, Mame Plus etc.

DamienD · 31 March 2007, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Try the attached ones, works fine here. And yes, WITH Mame32, Mame Plus etc.

I'll add it to my MAME32\Artwork folders and see how it goes

PS. I'm sure I asked you this before my friend

Retro-Nerd · 31 March 2007, 01:39

Mame32 shot:

Anubis · 31 March 2007, 01:52

What have I done of looser, I mean scanline thread??

Mame ROCKS!!

Scanline SUCKS!

Easy enogh! Now all of you scanline freaks write following 100 times:

I will never use scanline or make love with Dizzy.

Retro-Nerd · 31 March 2007, 01:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis

What have I done of looser, I mean scanline thread??

Mame ROCKS!!

Scanline SUCKS!

Easy enogh! Now all of you scanline freaks write following 100 times:

I will never use scanline or make love with Dizzy.

I warned you, Johnny. Now it's over.

Konrad · 31 March 2007, 02:22

@DamienD
Try disabling "enforce aspect ratio".

Ultron · 31 March 2007, 15:20

Seems like the bilinear pixel doubling zealots have been silenced by the thundering light of the evidence!

DamienD · 31 March 2007, 22:42

Ok, for anybody that uses the MAME32 or MAME Plus etc. and wants the "classic" scanlines effect...

... Scanlines.png = 50% grey
... Scanlines75.png = 37.5% grey
... Scanlines50.png = 25% grey
... Scanlines25.png = 12.5% grey

Created by me using Photoshop

Retro-Nerd · 31 March 2007, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Ok, for anybody that uses the MAME32 or MAME Plus etc. and wants the "classic" scanlines effect...

... Scanlines.png = 50% grey
... Scanlines75.png = 37.5% grey
... Scanlines50.png = 25% grey
... Scanlines25.png = 12.5% grey

Created by me using Photoshop

Nice work, Damien.

spiff · 01 April 2007, 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke

Ultron: Thats quite dark for some reason, here's how it looks here:

DamienD: I'm using normal MAME without any front-end, just the command line.

Just to be an arse, the grill/scanlines are the wrong way since raiden has a rotated screen

Looks pretty otherwise, thanks damien.

Another problem with modern monitors apart from scan lines is that the colour range is too exact. Most 15hz monitors have a warmer/more bent colour curve and tops out on white/light gray much earlier. Grill emulation fails on white surfaces, they are gray, not kinda like "over exposed" or almost bloom effect clean white.

View Poll Results: Scanlines or NO scanlines?
Yes, I prefer scanlines.	81	29.14%
No, I don't like scanlines.	173	62.23%
I don't care which one. Any would do fine for me.	24	8.63%
Voters: 278. You may not vote on this poll

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31 March 2007, 00:28	#222
Duke HOL-Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 520	Ultron: Thats quite dark for some reason, here's how it looks here: DamienD: I'm using normal MAME without any front-end, just the command line.

31 March 2007, 00:46	#224
Duke HOL-Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 520	On a related note, pivot mode rocks: http://home.arcor.de/startaq/DSC00422.JPG

31 March 2007, 01:06	#226
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	You probably ticked some wrong boxes, Damien. The overlay PNG's with scanline effects works fine with Mame32 or Mame Plus.

31 March 2007, 01:32	#231
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Try the attached ones, works fine here. And yes, WITH Mame32, Mame Plus etc.

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Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Mame32 shot:

31 March 2007, 01:52	#234
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	What have I done of looser, I mean scanline thread?? Mame ROCKS!! Scanline SUCKS! Easy enogh! Now all of you scanline freaks write following 100 times: I will never use scanline or make love with Dizzy.

31 March 2007, 02:22	#236
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	@DamienD Try disabling "enforce aspect ratio".

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Ultron Something Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Amigaland, Nostalgia Age: 48 Posts: 757	Seems like the bilinear pixel doubling zealots have been silenced by the thundering light of the evidence!

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