ACA500PLUS Jumper?

BMD · 17 September 2018, 20:04

there is a VERY tiny jumper on the bottom of the board (component side), that says "remove if no 68000 is installed"

Thoughts?

Also are there any known mods or tricks for this card yet?

BMD · 17 September 2018, 23:28

Also i saw where you could display the current speed on the DisMo but there is no other mention anywhere?

demolition · 18 September 2018, 09:37

I think the text is quite explanatory. Remove the jumper if you have no 68000 installed.

BMD · 19 September 2018, 15:44

Its Install jumper if NO 68000 is installed, I'm beginning to think he was going to sell a lower cost version of the ACA500+ called, i dunno, ACABOOT (making shizzle up here lol ).

Where in as it ONLY has CF card boot support no memory or 68020/processor

I Recently got ahold of 68010 16.5 mhz i threw into my A500 and woooo howdy is is not as slow lol.

demolition · 19 September 2018, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

Its Install jumper if NO 68000 is installed, I'm beginning to think he was going to sell a lower cost version of the ACA500+ called, i dunno, ACABOOT (making shizzle up here lol ).

Where in as it ONLY has CF card boot support no memory or 68020/processor

Sounds quite useless to me. For a plain IDE interface there are much cheaper solutions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

I Recently got ahold of 68010 16.5 mhz i threw into my A500 and woooo howdy is is not as slow lol.

Unless you do some other not so simple modifications to the Amiga, it will still run at ~7MHz so not really much difference except for the fact that an 010 is about 5% faster.

Daedalus · 19 September 2018, 15:54

@BMD

No, there was definitely something about it that I read a while back from Jens that concerned removing the original CPU from the motherboard and changing the jumper to supply a missing but required signal to the motherboard from the ACA instead. I can't remember the exact details but I'm sure it could be dredged up in one of the ACA threads.

demolition · 19 September 2018, 16:14

Yes, you set the jumper if you remove the CPU from the Amiga. But he was talking about using an ACA500plus without its CPU installed, i.e. only using the Amiga's own 68000.

Daedalus · 19 September 2018, 16:17

Yeah, I got that, I was replying to his post and not yours that ninja'd mine

Sorry, it looks very confusing now...

BMD · 19 September 2018, 16:25

I did not know which CPU was removed...
Hence why i made the post and asked...
Would like to know more...

And yes the modifications have been done to the 68010 i installed and even overclocked it to a whopping 19.7 mhz! (heatsink installed on CPU for safety) and it gets warm!

Im no spring chicken, Electronics technician here FYI.

BMD · 19 September 2018, 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

Also i saw where you could display the current speed on the DisMo but there is no other mention anywhere?

BUMP most interested on this subject...

Daedalus · 19 September 2018, 17:13

I can't find the post with a (very quick) search, but it was a feature that wasn't intended for general use and therefore not documented. But I definitely recall Jens himself describing its function, perhaps in relation to other add-ons loading down the bus. Removing the motherboard CPU and ROM was a way to alleviate the loading, but then the A500 wouldn't boot as it needed a certain signal from the CPU (I suspect the E clock but I can't verify that). Modifying the jumper on the ACA provides that signal from the ACA instead, but you have to remember to reverse the modification if you ever reinstall the motherboard CPU as the two signals would then be in contention with unpredictable and potentially damaging results.

Toni Wilen · 19 September 2018, 18:44

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=569

Daedalus · 19 September 2018, 20:33

Thank you Toni!

BMD · 20 September 2018, 00:17

Ok now how do we make DisMo show current speed in mhz?

Toni Wilen · 20 September 2018, 07:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

Ok now how do we make DisMo show current speed in mhz?

New CPU speed is shown for few seconds when dismo button is configured to change CPU speed.

BMD · 23 September 2018, 23:18

yes but how do you set it up to show it constantly after boot?

Photon · 24 September 2018, 00:24

The boot CPU speed is selected by selecting a config to boot. You can set a default config, which means the CPU speed set there will always be set at boot.

The default display on the DisMo at boot is the last byte of the Flash ROM I think it was.

Toni Wilen · 24 September 2018, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

yes but how do you set it up to show it constantly after boot?

You don't.

At early boot (before menu opens) it shows semi-undocumented status codes that can be used for troubleshooting if things go wrong.

During menu it shows key codes (can be used as a basic keyboard tester).

During boot it shows more semi-undocumented status codes. It gets blanked when normal boot phase starts.

BMD · 24 September 2018, 17:40

"The small PCB on top of the ACA500plus serves as display, LED and button unit. It will be referred to as "DisMo", short for "display module". DisMo serves as debug output, MHz-display, freeze-button and even as a replacement for the de-brick jumper."

Toni Wilen · 24 September 2018, 18:42

It means exactly what I already said: new CPU frequency is shown few seconds if button is pressed and it was configured to change CPU speed.

(I know what I am talking about, press HELP in menu if you don't believe me

)

17 September 2018, 20:04	#1
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	ACA500PLUS Jumper? there is a VERY tiny jumper on the bottom of the board (component side), that says "remove if no 68000 is installed" Thoughts? Also are there any known mods or tricks for this card yet?

19 September 2018, 15:54	#6
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	@BMD No, there was definitely something about it that I read a while back from Jens that concerned removing the original CPU from the motherboard and changing the jumper to supply a missing but required signal to the motherboard from the ACA instead. I can't remember the exact details but I'm sure it could be dredged up in one of the ACA threads. Last edited by Daedalus; 19 September 2018 at 16:17. Reason: Clarity

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17 September 2018, 23:28	#2
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	Also i saw where you could display the current speed on the DisMo but there is no other mention anywhere?

18 September 2018, 09:37	#3
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	I think the text is quite explanatory. Remove the jumper if you have no 68000 installed.

19 September 2018, 15:44	#4
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	Its Install jumper if NO 68000 is installed, I'm beginning to think he was going to sell a lower cost version of the ACA500+ called, i dunno, ACABOOT (making shizzle up here lol ). Where in as it ONLY has CF card boot support no memory or 68020/processor I Recently got ahold of 68010 16.5 mhz i threw into my A500 and woooo howdy is is not as slow lol.

19 September 2018, 16:14	#7
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	Yes, you set the jumper if you remove the CPU from the Amiga. But he was talking about using an ACA500plus without its CPU installed, i.e. only using the Amiga's own 68000.

19 September 2018, 16:17	#8
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Yeah, I got that, I was replying to his post and not yours that ninja'd mine Sorry, it looks very confusing now...

19 September 2018, 16:25	#9
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	I did not know which CPU was removed... Hence why i made the post and asked... Would like to know more... And yes the modifications have been done to the 68010 i installed and even overclocked it to a whopping 19.7 mhz! (heatsink installed on CPU for safety) and it gets warm! Im no spring chicken, Electronics technician here FYI.

19 September 2018, 17:13	#11
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	I can't find the post with a (very quick) search, but it was a feature that wasn't intended for general use and therefore not documented. But I definitely recall Jens himself describing its function, perhaps in relation to other add-ons loading down the bus. Removing the motherboard CPU and ROM was a way to alleviate the loading, but then the A500 wouldn't boot as it needed a certain signal from the CPU (I suspect the E clock but I can't verify that). Modifying the jumper on the ACA provides that signal from the ACA instead, but you have to remember to reverse the modification if you ever reinstall the motherboard CPU as the two signals would then be in contention with unpredictable and potentially damaging results.

19 September 2018, 18:44	#12
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=569

19 September 2018, 20:33	#13
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Thank you Toni!

20 September 2018, 00:17	#14
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	Ok now how do we make DisMo show current speed in mhz?

23 September 2018, 23:18	#16
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	yes but how do you set it up to show it constantly after boot?

24 September 2018, 00:24	#17
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	The boot CPU speed is selected by selecting a config to boot. You can set a default config, which means the CPU speed set there will always be set at boot. The default display on the DisMo at boot is the last byte of the Flash ROM I think it was.

24 September 2018, 17:40	#19
BMD Amiga Man Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana / United States Posts: 63	"The small PCB on top of the ACA500plus serves as display, LED and button unit. It will be referred to as "DisMo", short for "display module". DisMo serves as debug output, MHz-display, freeze-button and even as a replacement for the de-brick jumper."

24 September 2018, 18:42	#20
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	It means exactly what I already said: new CPU frequency is shown few seconds if button is pressed and it was configured to change CPU speed. (I know what I am talking about, press HELP in menu if you don't believe me )

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