is it possible to launch windows program from workbench(winuae)

turrican3 · 15 May 2007, 23:50

i just want to know if there is a way to launch windows program from workbench (winuae) and if it's possible does it transparently like if it was an amiga program ?

killergorilla · 15 May 2007, 23:52

Well it's never going to be transparent is it...

turrican3 · 15 May 2007, 23:55

I don't know i just want to know what is possible?

killergorilla · 16 May 2007, 00:11

You can launch windows programs from winuae, I know that but I can't remember how!

It's certainly not transparent though

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 00:15

Thank you killergorilla, if someone know how to do it.
For doing this transparently, prehaps in a new winuae version?

Coagulus · 16 May 2007, 00:16

Well, it would be nice to boot up into an amiga desktop and run amiga and windows software without a care in the world or without being able to notice as a casual user.

But I don't think that'll happen though.

There's always two monitors magic mouse thingy though!

alanwall · 16 May 2007, 01:12

it's winlaunch and cames with older winuaes, if you need it
I can send

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 01:14

yes thank you alanwall,perhaps to the zone?

killergorilla · 16 May 2007, 10:13

ah yeah that's the one winlaunch!

Jimbo · 16 May 2007, 10:21

Dual monitors is the way to go

killergorilla · 16 May 2007, 10:53

I have to admit I would like to try the dual monitor setup with winuae...

I don't think I'd use it much but it seems like a cool thing to do

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 11:42

there someone who could put winlaunch to the zone ?

eLowar · 16 May 2007, 13:11

http://aminet.net/search?query=winlaunch

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 13:32

thank you elowar

Charlie · 20 May 2007, 02:47

Ahhh: Reminds me of an old WinUAE off-shoot I've been trying to find for years...

Win-Amiga or some such. It was a version of UAE that would work as a repacement shell. You get AmigaOS instead of Explorer for your desktop enviroment in 'doze...
If Toni ever runs out of better things to do I would love to see this as part of the offical version.

amiga · 25 May 2007, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie

Ahhh: Reminds me of an old WinUAE off-shoot I've been trying to find for years...

Win-Amiga or some such. It was a version of UAE that would work as a repacement shell. You get AmigaOS instead of Explorer for your desktop enviroment in 'doze...
If Toni ever runs out of better things to do I would love to see this as part of the offical version.

You can replace the Windows shell with WinUAE, if u wish.
All u need to do is modify a string in windows registry!
Do a search on the net if u want to know how to replace the windows shell with something else!

Charlie · 25 May 2007, 22:54

@amiga:
Thanks for the reply:- Yes, WinUAE as a shell is easy enough...
... it's getting AmigaOS/UAE to understand what to do with the 'doze-specific files: that's the tricky bit.

That's what that modded-version of WinUAE was about. ( asuming it wasn't just more Amiga related vapour )

turrican3 · 11 January 2008, 22:31

Toni, i would like to know what you think about the idea to launch windows applications from winuae transparently, it could be possible, no ?
we can launch the gui of winuae transparently (f12), why not evey pc applications like firefox ? Perhaps it will be needed to down the priority of winuae or disable the emulation, i just would like to use winuae without the need to comeback to windows and why not boot directly to winuae. Perhaps you think it's a crazy idea or impossible but please tell me what you think? We could use winlaunch with dopus magellan like a filetype ? impossible ? tell me

smoorke · 12 January 2008, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

....We could use winlaunch with dopus magellan like a filetype ? impossible ? tell me

Not quite impossible but a bit tricky to do
The problem starts with the PC side not having full access to the emulated amiga filesystems ( eg. ram disk, hdf and adf files )
- drives being enumerated quite diffrently ( A:\ B:\ C:\ vs. Df0: Df1: DH0: or HD0: )
- path seperators are reversed ( \ vs / )

One could write a script wich copies the files from within the Emulated enviroment to a temporary location on the PC side (huge overhead and a pain for big files)

A more intelligent script would first determine if the file in question is on a drive which can be reached from the PC side without the need for copying and if this is the case then this script reparses the Amiga path to a PC path and passes the information to Winlaunch
ofcourse copying to a temp dir would still be required for files on RAM: and other amiga specific filesystems (emulated floppies and hdf's)

I started working on the latter in Arexx but got held back by personal issues which i still havn't fully resolved.
I might post what i already had when i find my amiga usb stick,
keep in mind it was only a very early internal alpha test version.
That and the version of winlaunch found on aminet seems to be made by someone who doesn't understand the Amiga programming etiquette. (he prints text to the console on failure and success) just take a look at it's source code to see how messy it is

So here's a request on my side if anyone feels up to the task of making the winlaunch more conform to AmigaDos standards (eg correct RC's and such) be my guest as i'm guessing it's not being actively developed anymore

turrican3 · 12 January 2008, 16:16

thanks for your answer smoorke then it could be possible difficult but possible.
Your point of view Toni ?

15 May 2007, 23:50	#1
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	is it possible to launch windows program from workbench(winuae) i just want to know if there is a way to launch windows program from workbench (winuae) and if it's possible does it transparently like if it was an amiga program ?

16 May 2007, 13:11	#13
eLowar Citizen of Elthesh Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 949	three seconds Aminet searching... http://aminet.net/search?query=winlaunch

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15 May 2007, 23:52	#2
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Well it's never going to be transparent is it...

15 May 2007, 23:55	#3
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	I don't know i just want to know what is possible?

16 May 2007, 00:11	#4
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	You can launch windows programs from winuae, I know that but I can't remember how! It's certainly not transparent though

16 May 2007, 00:15	#5
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	Thank you killergorilla, if someone know how to do it. For doing this transparently, prehaps in a new winuae version?

16 May 2007, 00:16	#6
Coagulus Gets there in the end... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 863	Well, it would be nice to boot up into an amiga desktop and run amiga and windows software without a care in the world or without being able to notice as a casual user. But I don't think that'll happen though. There's always two monitors magic mouse thingy though!

16 May 2007, 01:12	#7
alanwall Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eugene,Oregon,USA Posts: 59	it's winlaunch and cames with older winuaes, if you need it I can send

16 May 2007, 01:14	#8
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	yes thank you alanwall,perhaps to the zone?

16 May 2007, 10:13	#9
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	ah yeah that's the one winlaunch!

16 May 2007, 10:21	#10
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 44 Posts: 822	Dual monitors is the way to go

16 May 2007, 10:53	#11
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I have to admit I would like to try the dual monitor setup with winuae... I don't think I'd use it much but it seems like a cool thing to do

16 May 2007, 11:42	#12
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	there someone who could put winlaunch to the zone ?

16 May 2007, 13:32	#14
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	thank you elowar

20 May 2007, 02:47	#15
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Ahhh: Reminds me of an old WinUAE off-shoot I've been trying to find for years... Win-Amiga or some such. It was a version of UAE that would work as a repacement shell. You get AmigaOS instead of Explorer for your desktop enviroment in 'doze... If Toni ever runs out of better things to do I would love to see this as part of the offical version.

25 May 2007, 22:54	#17
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	@amiga: Thanks for the reply:- Yes, WinUAE as a shell is easy enough... ... it's getting AmigaOS/UAE to understand what to do with the 'doze-specific files: that's the tricky bit. That's what that modded-version of WinUAE was about. ( asuming it wasn't just more Amiga related vapour )

11 January 2008, 22:31	#18
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	Toni, i would like to know what you think about the idea to launch windows applications from winuae transparently, it could be possible, no ? we can launch the gui of winuae transparently (f12), why not evey pc applications like firefox ? Perhaps it will be needed to down the priority of winuae or disable the emulation, i just would like to use winuae without the need to comeback to windows and why not boot directly to winuae. Perhaps you think it's a crazy idea or impossible but please tell me what you think? We could use winlaunch with dopus magellan like a filetype ? impossible ? tell me

12 January 2008, 16:16	#20
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	thanks for your answer smoorke then it could be possible difficult but possible. Your point of view Toni ?

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