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View Poll Results: Scanlines or NO scanlines?
Yes, I prefer scanlines. 66 26.94%
No, I don't like scanlines. 158 64.49%
I don't care which one. Any would do fine for me. 21 8.57%
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Old 31 March 2007, 00:22   #221
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Very, very nice Ultron.. Probably as close as you will ever get to an arcade monitor

Now, if only we could convince Toni to implement this feature
A scanline brightness slider begging poll?
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Old 31 March 2007, 00:28   #222
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Ultron: Thats quite dark for some reason, here's how it looks here:



DamienD: I'm using normal MAME without any front-end, just the command line.
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Old 31 March 2007, 00:34   #223
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Ultron: Thats quite dark for some reason, here's how it looks here:

DamienD: I'm using normal MAME without any front-end, just the command
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Damn Duke, that is HEAVEN and exactly the effect I'm after and the whole point of this thread

This is also very similar to how I remember by beloved A500 looking

Time to ditch MAME32 and go back to MAME (and add a front-end)

Note: to all the non-believers, how can you say no filters / effects (i.e. double pixels) look better than this
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On a related note, pivot mode rocks: http://home.arcor.de/startaq/DSC00422.JPG
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Old 31 March 2007, 01:04   #225
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On a related note, pivot mode rocks: http://home.arcor.de/startaq/DSC00422.JPG
Of course, good for shoot 'em ups mainly
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Old 31 March 2007, 01:06   #226
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You probably ticked some wrong boxes, Damien. The overlay PNG's with scanline effects works fine with Mame32 or Mame Plus.
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Old 31 March 2007, 01:13   #227
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You probably ticked some wrong boxes, Damien. The overlay PNG's with scanline effects works fine with Mame32 or Mame Plus.
Hahaha

Maybe, but I really don't think so...

I've tried all available options... Please PM me the settings that you think will get rid of the "new-ish" scanlines effects you see in post #215 for MAME32 my friend
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Old 31 March 2007, 01:20   #228
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On a related note, pivot mode rocks: http://home.arcor.de/startaq/DSC00422.JPG
Oh, HELL YES!
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Hahaha

Maybe, but I really don't think so...

I've tried all available options... Please PM me the settings that you think will get rid of the "new-ish" scanlines effects you see in post #215 for MAME32 my friend
What a lame package, Mame32 lacks some PNG's. Try the attached ones.
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What a lame package, Mame32 lacks some PNG's. Try the attached ones.
Hmmm, true...

It does have .PNGs but not the ones I really want... Only these:

... Aperture1x2rb_Aaron.png
... Aperture1x3rb_Aaron.png
... Aperture2x4bg_Aaron.png
... Aperture2x4rb_Aaron.png
... Aperture4x6_Aaron.png
... ApertureHRES_j4.png
... ApertureMRES_j4.png
... Art_Twisty.png
... Auto_Twisty.png
... Scanlines0x4_j4.png
... Scanlines25x4_j4.png
... Scanlines50x4_j4.png
... Scanlines75Dx4_j4.png
... Scanlines75x2_j4.png
... Scanlines75x3_j4.png
... Scanlines75x4_j4.png
... Scanrez1_Althor.png
... Scanrez2_Althor.png

An example of the scanlines are the ones I posted in #215

That's why it's time for me to switch
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Try the attached ones, works fine here. And yes, WITH Mame32, Mame Plus etc.
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Try the attached ones, works fine here. And yes, WITH Mame32, Mame Plus etc.
I'll add it to my MAME32\Artwork folders and see how it goes

PS. I'm sure I asked you this before my friend
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What have I done of looser, I mean scanline thread??

Mame ROCKS!!

Scanline SUCKS!

Easy enogh! Now all of you scanline freaks write following 100 times:

I will never use scanline or make love with Dizzy.

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What have I done of looser, I mean scanline thread??

Mame ROCKS!!

Scanline SUCKS!

Easy enogh! Now all of you scanline freaks write following 100 times:

I will never use scanline or make love with Dizzy.

I warned you, Johnny. Now it's over.

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Try disabling "enforce aspect ratio".
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Seems like the bilinear pixel doubling zealots have been silenced by the thundering light of the evidence!
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Ok, for anybody that uses the MAME32 or MAME Plus etc. and wants the "classic" scanlines effect...

... Scanlines.png = 50% grey
... Scanlines75.png = 37.5% grey
... Scanlines50.png = 25% grey
... Scanlines25.png = 12.5% grey

Created by me using Photoshop
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Ok, for anybody that uses the MAME32 or MAME Plus etc. and wants the "classic" scanlines effect...

... Scanlines.png = 50% grey
... Scanlines75.png = 37.5% grey
... Scanlines50.png = 25% grey
... Scanlines25.png = 12.5% grey

Created by me using Photoshop
Nice work, Damien.
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Ultron: Thats quite dark for some reason, here's how it looks here:

DamienD: I'm using normal MAME without any front-end, just the command line.
Just to be an arse, the grill/scanlines are the wrong way since raiden has a rotated screen
Looks pretty otherwise, thanks damien.

Another problem with modern monitors apart from scan lines is that the colour range is too exact. Most 15hz monitors have a warmer/more bent colour curve and tops out on white/light gray much earlier. Grill emulation fails on white surfaces, they are gray, not kinda like "over exposed" or almost bloom effect clean white.

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