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I've gotta bump this thread to say this is unreal. I love the Amiga version of The Addams Family, so the notion of possibly seeing the backgrounds added in is exciting. Probably won't happen, but exciting
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14 March 2018, 04:52 | #103 |
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The amiga version is rush super famicom port...that's why they scrapped the background.
Once the nintendo game was done they came back at the amiga and rewrote the game from the scratch with the snes version as model. They must had issues troughout the devellopement and decided to cover the background for matter of time.. Like peter thierolf said about turrican 3 : The game would have been better if designed for the amiga not ported from the megadrive. Last edited by albino; 14 March 2018 at 05:00. |
22 July 2018, 02:34 | #104 |
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Hello! I did a lot of research on this when I did the Addams Family episode of PortsCenter. Anikrob is correct - it came down to wanting the smoother graphics, but also because the background layer didn't actually scroll - i.e. it was a fixed, static layer - players of an early demo build that featured the backdrops complained that it was difficult to figure out where Gomez was visually when he was in freefall. For these reasons, the backdrop layer was nix'd and we got a solid backdrop.
The Amiga version also doesn't include the fencing sword or bouncy ball power-ups, IIRC. |
22 July 2018, 13:55 | #105 |
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Even the developers talk about a version with parallax and when I put the background on the selection screen there was no problem seeing Gomez, I think it's more lack of resources it would have taken time to do special static backgrounds and mix with foreground just for the Amiga version, plus it would of increased the file size of the maps maybe to double.
....but who cares let's play Call of Duty. Last edited by Retro1234; 22 July 2018 at 14:04. |
22 July 2018, 15:11 | #106 |
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Seriously, they did the effort on the ST version, and not the amiga version.
Why ? Amiga 512kb, when all the other games at the same time used 1mb of ram. The Amiga version is a pork and lazy job. Just for the 2 cts, the SNES use a planar display, exactly like the Amiga..... And This game is not as complicated as a game like lionheart for example. |
22 July 2018, 19:59 | #107 |
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I mean, the question has already been answered. It's been answered in this thread at least twice.
If you've ever actually played the ST version, you'll know that the backgrounds there don't actually scroll at all. They're fixed. They're also way too bright - backgrounds should ideally be darker so you don't lose your foreground characters. |
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23 July 2018, 07:14 | #109 |
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Yeah, I'll never understand the "lazy port" arguments when the game is slick and smooth - certainly slicker and smoother than some other console ports (looking at you, TMNT). People get too hung up on those backdrops.
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26 September 2021, 07:21 | #110 |
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Bump.
Was there any progress in enabling the backgrounds for the Amiga version ? |
26 September 2021, 13:25 | #111 |
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I was able to insert a static background in some of the levels but there where problems
1. tiles can't be flipped as far as I know so there are many missing tiles. 2. one of the levels I did the Hero/Sprite/Gomez now. appears behind the background tiles. I really miss having time for this kind of thing I had some good fun doing this kind of thing I remember finding the map in the the SNES version and tiles, I wish I had ripped all these and uploaded to somewhere like sprite resource, never seen a resource having the map data and tile sets for console stuff. Wrote a couple of programme to help me convert the snes background to Amiga and then combine the foreground and background. Ok it might not be the most amazing thing in the world but I enjoyed doing it. |
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We've seen a lot of screenshots of people "restoring" partial backdrops, but I would love to see some video.
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26 September 2021, 20:52 | #113 |
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It was a WinUae savestate, but if someone really wanted to do a remake they could probably use Scorpion engine but it would be a big job and the existing port is pretty good the gameplay is good.
people go ooo the ST version has parallax scrolling but it not smooth and it's in small sections the Amiga version is better. |
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I've got an ST, I've got a SNES and a Megadrive (both with Everdrives), so playing Adams Family I've got a good choice lol, but my heart lies with the Amiga and that is what I played Adams Family on as a kid, first the demo from the CU Amiga disk and then as with most of us I'm sure, a pirated floppy disk of the full game. I'd love to see the Amiga version 'complete' one day |
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Still waiting to somebody to hack the parallax back |
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At least it should be doable in an AGA port considering the front Playfield is probably 15 colours like the ST version.
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The game really doesn't need it, the black background makes the foreground elements pop out perfectly. That's where your eyes need to be in this fast paced game.
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17 June 2023, 10:51 | #118 |
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The game feels unfinished and empty without the parallax.
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17 June 2023, 11:10 | #120 |
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Yes it's empty. I mean a hundred screens, a huge amount of enemies, music in every room, huge bosses, tons of secrets, minor switch hunting puzzle elements, every room filled to the brim with traps to evade and pickups to collect, non-linear levels and progression...
Empty indeed. Practically a demo. |
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