HippoPlayer v2.48

[Estrayk]

koobo, a more question, xmaplay060 integrated in this version support AHI or just Paula?
What replayers support AHI?

[spotUP]

Hippoplayer online is updated as well! (https://www.hippoplayer.se)

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[DisasterIncarna]

Originally Posted by spoUP

Hippoplayer online is updated as well! (https://www.hippoplayer.se)

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thats....pretty damned awesome, not seen that before.

[koobo]

Originally Posted by Estrayk

koobo, a more question, xmaplay060 integrated in this version support AHI or just Paula?
What replayers support AHI?

xmaplay060 is Paula only. AHI is available for Protracker, Fasttracker, Fastracker2, ScreamTracker3, Multitracker, ImpulseTracker, MP3.

(Also Hippel-COSO, but not sure if it works nowadays.)

[koobo]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

ok as an update, ive quickly had a look/listen to quite a few and my initial guess is correct, ALL 2SIDS i have come accross using the player "Hermit/SidWizard V1.x" have issues.

The bulk of 2SID's ive come accross use the player "GoatTracker V1.x & V2.x" and work perfectly, other sid players that seem to work perfectly fine are listed/marked with.

Glover NewPlayer V21
JCH NewPlayer & NewPlayer V17
Geir Tjelta/SIDDUZ'It
DMC V4.x
Cheesecutter V2.x

A load more either have no player info and instead have demo/musician/other names where other typically have the player name, some are vague where you cant really tell if its a player name or a demo/group/etc name, but they all seem to function regardless.

This leaves the aforementioned player that is causing all issues i can find so far, no idea if this "Hermit/SidWizard V1.x" has any info/documentation or active coders anywhere who can shed light on the issue but for now its the singular problem which the current sidplay is having issues with that i can see.

Also found:

8BitDigi/Mahoney
-Error!/Skips
--Steriophonic 6581 2SID
--Steriophonic 8580 2SID

These skip/error out, so looking at your previous post regarding a skip, i can assume these are also probably RSID's?

Interesting info!
RSID files can be identified by looking at the first 4 bytes in the file which contain, unsurprisingly, the text "RSID"

[shelter]

Originally Posted by spoUP

Hippoplayer online is updated as well! (https://www.hippoplayer.se)

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Very cool. I wonder how that site is made.

[spotUP]

It's made in vanilla JS. Hippoplayer uses an emscripten port of UADE for accurate playback as well as other JS players.

[DisasterIncarna]

probably offtopic, but still audio related, but has anyone yet made a sid replayer/player that overlaps 8580 and 6581 sid audio into 1 audio track so both are played together? Sounds dumb i know, but thought wth, lets see if that does anything, so took 2 tracks of ACE2 as mp3 and merged the 2 sid types together with Audacity, no idea if its just ACE2 but the 8580 output seems to drown out the different sounding 6581 output, at least as far as my crappy ears can tell.

Is there even a reason or difference to try this at all?

[DisasterIncarna]

Originally Posted by koobo

Interesting info!
RSID files can be identified by looking at the first 4 bytes in the file which contain, unsurprisingly, the text "RSID"

again, i didnt notice but chordian has the "Player" tab top right, and when we look at a sid tune and click PLAYER, it shows a whole chunk of info regarding the misbehaving Player.

http://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/E..._Core_4SID.sid

Click Player top right and theres a whole page on Hermit/SidWizard, which may or may not be useful.

Package
Platform	Native / C64 emulator
Distribution	Freeware
PAL / NTSC	PAL (vertical borders are cut off on NTSC)
Source code	Included in archive
Documentation	Built-in + Multiple README/PDF
Example tunes	14+
Proprietary file format	SWx
Features
Number of SID chips	1SID + 2SID + 3SID
Channels visible	3
Speeds	1x to 8x
Digi / Samples	No
Auxiliary support	MIDI
Import from	MIDI + SNG + XM (Separate tool)
Save/Export to	PRG + SID (separate tool)
Packer	Using separate tool
Relocator	Using separate tool
Load/Save sounds	Instruments
Instruments / Sounds	45 (1SID)
Sub tunes	6 (1SID)
Player
Noteworthy	Choice between 5 players
Size of player	Less than 2700 bytes (normal)
Zero page usage	2; ghosted
CPU time (1x)	23-35 lines SD (depends on player)
Arpeggio	Wave table + Chord table
Pulsating	Programmable + Note strength
Filtering	Programmable + Note strength
Vibrato	Yes; with feeling
Hard restart	For each instrument
Editor
Track system	Single-channel patterns
Patterns / Sequences	100 (1SID); each up to 248 rows
Follow-play	Yes
Copy and Paste	Yes
Undo	One-step
Track commands	Bytes in a horizontal order list
Note input layout	Protracker, DMC, SDI, Janko

[kriz]

Originally Posted by spoUP

Hippoplayer online is updated as well! (https://www.hippoplayer.se)

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Wow that is so good, amazing work !!

[patrik]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

looking good \o/ love these updates, well worth it btw how does the online radio station part work? using search a lot of the results do work but some like Slay Radio produce the error "Error Downloading Data", trying the downloaded Slay radio .M3U file also doesnt work so not sure whats happening there, still have to use AmigaAmp to listen to slay radio atm.

Do an uhcupdate and try Slay Radio again.

[Estrayk]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

probably offtopic, but still audio related, but has anyone yet made a sid replayer/player that overlaps 8580 and 6581 sid audio into 1 audio track so both are played together? Sounds dumb i know, but thought wth, lets see if that does anything, so took 2 tracks of ACE2 as mp3 and merged the 2 sid types together with Audacity, no idea if its just ACE2 but the 8580 output seems to drown out the different sounding 6581 output, at least as far as my crappy ears can tell.

Is there even a reason or difference to try this at all?

OFFTOPIC reply:

In this video I use a real 6581 (left) and a real 8580 (right). Sounds interesting because this creates a pseudo-stereo.
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[tomcat666]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

probably offtopic, but still audio related, but has anyone yet made a sid replayer/player that overlaps 8580 and 6581 sid audio into 1 audio track so both are played together? Sounds dumb i know, but thought wth, lets see if that does anything, so took 2 tracks of ACE2 as mp3 and merged the 2 sid types together with Audacity, no idea if its just ACE2 but the 8580 output seems to drown out the different sounding 6581 output, at least as far as my crappy ears can tell.

Is there even a reason or difference to try this at all?

I do this on Ultimate64 ... have both SID types in the two sockets and it is pretty much OK with everything No drowning one with another there...

[DisasterIncarna]

Originally Posted by patrik

Do an uhcupdate and try Slay Radio again.

aaaaaand it works.....

[koobo]

Unfortunately two new crash bugs sneaked themselves into v2.56:

• Crash when in the search view and doing a find (key [F] or RMB+"S" button).
• Crash when playing XM modules when "xmaplay060" enabled.

You can find the patched v2.56 here if these issues seem troubling:
https://github.com/koobo/HippoPlayer...ayerupdate.lha

[Zabi]

Originally Posted by koobo

HippoPlayer v2.56 available:

• http://aminet.net/mus/play/hippoplayerupdate.lha
• http://aminet.net/mus/play/hippoplayerupdate.readme

Excellent!

[DisasterIncarna]

Originally Posted by koobo

Unfortunately two new crash bugs sneaked themselves into v2.56:

• Crash when in the search view and doing a find (key [F] or RMB+"S" button).
• Crash when playing XM modules when "xmaplay060" enabled.

You can find the patched v2.56 here if these issues seem troubling:
https://github.com/koobo/HippoPlayer...ayerupdate.lha

that new archive gives me the following output.

Extracting from archive 'Downloads:hippoplayerupdate.lha'
  WARNING: Skipping corrupt/extraneous data
No files extracted

Operation not entirely successful.

EDIT: Very weird, it's just my PC being weird, when i click your link to download i for some reason end up downloading the github html as a .lha file, but if i manually go to https://github.com/koobo/HippoPlayer...ayerupdate.lha by pasting the link in my address bar and click the download button there i get a bigger working archive.

No idea why im automagically downloading the github link's html as an lha file, but thats probably an issue with me, so panic over.

great updates overall tho, btw i noticed when playing an MP3 now that if i lower the volume noticably low then swap to a new MP3 the first few moments of playback are at max volume then it quickly skips down to the lowered/set/correct volume, issue with the initial part of buffered playback perhaps?

[koobo]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

i noticed when playing an MP3 now that if i lower the volume noticably low then swap to a new MP3 the first few moments of playback are at max volume then it quickly skips down to the lowered/set/correct volume, issue with the initial part of buffered playback perhaps?

This is a side effect of the new hiqh quality 14-bit Paula output mode for MP3s. Here the Paula volume setting can't be used, instead mpega.library data scaling is applied to a similar effect. It reacts slower because of buffering, as you mentioned.

[patrik]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

that new archive gives me the following output.

Extracting from archive 'Downloads:hippoplayerupdate.lha'
  WARNING: Skipping corrupt/extraneous data
No files extracted

Operation not entirely successful.

EDIT: Very weird, it's just my PC being weird, when i click your link to download i for some reason end up downloading the github html as a .lha file, but if i manually go to https://github.com/koobo/HippoPlayer...ayerupdate.lha by pasting the link in my address bar and click the download button there i get a bigger working archive.

To get a link that is direct downloadable, the link of the "Download" button needs to be used. It is almost the same as the above, but the /blob/ part is replaced with /raw/:
https://github.com/koobo/HippoPlayer...ayerupdate.lha

[nikosidis]

Again, thanks for your fantastic work on this player.

When I stream radio I get this stutter opening, moving windows. I tried to mess with the priority but it did not help. It is not cause lack of CPU power. Does not happen playing MP3 etc. I could always make a video to demonstrate it. Any idea why?