17 September 2009, 21:11 | #21 |
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Quite. There are no new users, and the old users don't even know what they want. The hope the majority of the remaining Amiga believers seem to have in new Amiga stuff is to capture "the soul" of the old times. Living in the past doesn't seem like a market with a lot of future, as opposed to, say, sports cars.
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Commodore has already made million(s) from licensing and promoting their name.
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Slap the name Amiga and the logo on some anonymous chinese netbook and see what a leg up it would give them!! The longer it goes unused, the less it will be worth. It probably has 10 years of value left before it is completely worthless. |
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18 September 2009, 01:59 | #26 |
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Yeah, the Amiga brand can be worth millions, in the right hands.
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18 September 2009, 07:23 | #27 |
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It's worthless because the current owners are jerks. Not only are the current owners jerks, but the owners going on about a decade and a half back have all had no idea what to do with it. Instead of a port of the OS to X86, we got this PowerPC bullshit that literally went nowhere.
History has left the OS behind, and the name is synonymous with obsolescence. The Amiga is a punchline now. |
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19 September 2009, 03:45 | #29 |
2nd era...
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19 September 2009, 06:08 | #30 |
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And all three of those PPC-derivative CPUs are so badly gimped in the interests of reducing heat/costs that in nearly every case you have to wonder how much less of a headache even something like an Atom would've been.
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19 September 2009, 07:31 | #31 |
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And all three of these have nothing to do with the current value of Amiga Inc...
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"Asus, who the feck are they, sound like a rude work? Packard Bell? Don't they make phones or something? Amiga, cool I remember them, ahhh, they were great weren't they. You think Billy would want an Amiga for xmas??" Your thinking is too narrow minded. The vast majority of people will never even know they are being steered to the product at all. It will be almost subliminal. As with almost all marketing and advertising. Quote:
Anything. Netbook, Tablet PC, SmartPhone. Anything associated with computing will give a huge boost to an almost anonymous vendor. |
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19 September 2009, 11:00 | #33 |
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Going slightly off topic, but the performance-per-watt of the Atom is MUCH MUCH lower than any embedded PPC.
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19 September 2009, 13:41 | #34 |
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FWIW:
I agree, slapping old brand-names on new hardware makes good business sense... ...take Acorn for example: A name with all sorts of useful connotations in the UK, even today - not least of which is a reputation for quality (and high price). An otherwise unremarkable company with no link to the original Acorn has bought the name + logo and slapped them on their own laptops. They are selling rather well at a somewhat inflated price - why? Because *everybody knows* Acorns are 'good quality' machines with 'history' so it's ok that they are expensive because you get what you pay for... ...laptop company gets a leg up in a saturated market AND gets to hike the retail price by 20% - hurrah! Hell, even though I'm an old geek who likes his Acorns, rather than crying 'BLASPHEMY' I'm half tempted to buy one of their over-priced computers myself just because it would be cool to have a new Acorn. The Amiga name has got to be worth much more than the Acorn one - just not under it's current ownership and (sadly) not in any kind of form 'we' would like to see it used. Last edited by Charlie; 19 September 2009 at 14:38. |
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Hmm... couldn't *WE* the fans, in theory buy everything Amiga, if the price is low enough??
Start a foundation, like the Mozilla one, where thousands of people donate and pitch in, and just about makes enough of the gold to grab all them goodies. Make it an Open Source platform, and make the trademark a COLLECTIVE trademark. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_trade_mark Thereby we could REALLY start seeing some cool stuff happening! So... what's it worth? |
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Perfectly reasonable question, it would indeed be great. Yes, there's a but coming...
...Large parts of the Amiga system (esp the OS) are based on outside companies IP so there would be a minefield of sub-licensing to deal with. ...The history of the Amiga over the last 20 years is such a convoluted mess that I suspect finding who actually owns the genuinely Amiga bits could take years to sort out (much expense) before it could be bought & open-sourced. ...I believe large parts of the OS source & chipset schematics have gone 'missing' over the years which complicates matters further. Sorry to sound like to voice of doom - it's a good idea, but I can't see it happening. I think we're stuck with our increasingly aged boxes + emulation (very good) + AROS, etc if that's your cup of cha... |
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For example? What 'we' do with the name and copyrights then? Except for making KS and WB freely available of course Would 'we' make Jens design a new 'Amiga' and have some people code a cool new OS and software? Would 'we' make a electronic gadget to get started? Or do we go for the genital wart cream?
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It came out in the OS4 trial transcripts....
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