FPGarcade, Minimig, Clone-A, Natami?

spoUP · 15 November 2011, 00:22

How compatible to the real amigas are these?
Will they do for producing demos for real amigas or are they comparable to uae? In uae some things work that doesn't work on real Amigas. You can never be sure that a demo made in uae will work on the real deal imo.

I know that only the minimig is available to buy, does it do aga/060?
Will the fpgarcade or the clone-a do aga/060?
I consider aga+060 or better to be mandatory for a demo dev system.

Which one should i go for? What's the latest on the Clone-A? It seemed like Jens aimed to make it very compatible and with aga support. Tempting, but I have been waiting forever now. I am doubting it will ever come.

I somehow got the impression the minimig isn't that compatible, and no aga or 060?

Natami seems cool, but... I dunno, who needs SAGA? ...

What's your thoughts on all these clones? Which one is best? Why?
Can anyone of them replace an A1200 with a 060 board with high compatibility?

Toni Wilen · 15 November 2011, 08:16

If it has real 68060, it might have close enough timing

Most of these (non-A500) reimplementations also have very fast RAM access speed (compared to real Amiga) which means they will have same kind of compatibility problems as UAE, unless they have some kind of compatibility mode(s).

Lord Aga · 15 November 2011, 11:02

I like all of the FPGA Amigas.
Still... Minimig, as wondrous as it was back in the days, is falling behind now.
Fpgarcade and NatAmi are the ones to look at these days. Both will have a real 060 option, so a part of your worries is solved. Fpgarcade aims for a lower price (about 200 EUR) and will be a bit more affordable. NatAmi, on the other hand, promises more power. Not only speed. There are true IDE, CF connector, floppy support and compatibility, A500 keyboard connector !!! And SAGA will let you do high res Workbench without being slow as mud. But NatAmi will be the pricier board.

I'm hoping to get both

Maybe give one of them to my brother, when we get them set up. I don't think you can go wrong with either one of them.

spoUP · 22 November 2011, 12:48

i've done some research myself now, and i think i'll go for the fpgarcade, and possibly a natami later on. Jens really should put out some news now if he wants to sell some Clone-A's.

slk486 · 23 November 2011, 08:40

Still having my eyes on the Natami after 3 years. We'll see if it ever get's finished enough for consumers

kamelito · 23 November 2011, 18:16

Jens wrote that the clone-A is an hardware implementation of the Amiga.
The others two uses Amiga docs so I assume that clone A once released will be the closest of the 3.
But for now you can't buy it

Kamel

Nostromo · 19 December 2011, 10:42

I dont think Clone-A (as a A1200 replacement) will ever come out. The best current bet is FPGA Arcade.

15 November 2011, 00:22	#1
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 46 Posts: 430	FPGarcade, Minimig, Clone-A, Natami? How compatible to the real amigas are these? Will they do for producing demos for real amigas or are they comparable to uae? In uae some things work that doesn't work on real Amigas. You can never be sure that a demo made in uae will work on the real deal imo. I know that only the minimig is available to buy, does it do aga/060? Will the fpgarcade or the clone-a do aga/060? I consider aga+060 or better to be mandatory for a demo dev system. Which one should i go for? What's the latest on the Clone-A? It seemed like Jens aimed to make it very compatible and with aga support. Tempting, but I have been waiting forever now. I am doubting it will ever come. I somehow got the impression the minimig isn't that compatible, and no aga or 060? Natami seems cool, but... I dunno, who needs SAGA? ... What's your thoughts on all these clones? Which one is best? Why? Can anyone of them replace an A1200 with a 060 board with high compatibility?

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15 November 2011, 08:16	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	If it has real 68060, it might have close enough timing Most of these (non-A500) reimplementations also have very fast RAM access speed (compared to real Amiga) which means they will have same kind of compatibility problems as UAE, unless they have some kind of compatibility mode(s).

15 November 2011, 11:02	#3
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	I like all of the FPGA Amigas. Still... Minimig, as wondrous as it was back in the days, is falling behind now. Fpgarcade and NatAmi are the ones to look at these days. Both will have a real 060 option, so a part of your worries is solved. Fpgarcade aims for a lower price (about 200 EUR) and will be a bit more affordable. NatAmi, on the other hand, promises more power. Not only speed. There are true IDE, CF connector, floppy support and compatibility, A500 keyboard connector !!! And SAGA will let you do high res Workbench without being slow as mud. But NatAmi will be the pricier board. I'm hoping to get both Maybe give one of them to my brother, when we get them set up. I don't think you can go wrong with either one of them.

22 November 2011, 12:48	#4
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 46 Posts: 430	i've done some research myself now, and i think i'll go for the fpgarcade, and possibly a natami later on. Jens really should put out some news now if he wants to sell some Clone-A's.

23 November 2011, 08:40	#5
slk486 Registered Looser Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 336	Still having my eyes on the Natami after 3 years. We'll see if it ever get's finished enough for consumers

23 November 2011, 18:16	#6
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	Jens wrote that the clone-A is an hardware implementation of the Amiga. The others two uses Amiga docs so I assume that clone A once released will be the closest of the 3. But for now you can't buy it Kamel

19 December 2011, 10:42	#7
Nostromo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The World! Posts: 454	I dont think Clone-A (as a A1200 replacement) will ever come out. The best current bet is FPGA Arcade.

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