Legend of Faerghail, version 2.0e - Page 2

MazinKaesar · 15 February 2008, 17:23

Ok, so I'll report to jotd this truble, and I'll ask him even to support the TOSEC version 2.0e working without the riddle bug. Do you think we have to report to SPS that their 2.0e version is not good and they must replace it with the working TOSEC one?

Retro-Nerd · 15 February 2008, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MazinKaesar

Ok, so I'll report to jotd this truble, and I'll ask him even to support the TOSEC version 2.0e working without the riddle bug.

Thanks for doing it.

Quote:

Do you think we have to report to SPS that their 2.0e version is not good and they must replace it with the working TOSEC one?

Let's hope they can pick up an error-free English version, to dump correct IPF images.

MazinKaesar · 15 February 2008, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Let's hope they can pick up an error-free English version, to dump correct IPF images.

Well, I will send them a mail... then, "cavoli loro!" as Italian people say

IFW · 16 February 2008, 05:23

As far as we are concerned the disk is bug free and duplicated and how it was sold.
If the game has a bug it is none of our concern.
It is HOW it was SOLD by the PUBLISHER.
Our concern is to preserve games in their original form.
So if said publisher sells a game riddled with bugs, but we have the disks preserved as they were sold the game is good from a preservation standpoint. You get the exact same experience with the paying customers of the game at the time

Many games have bugs - including the ones sold just now -, you just simply are not aware of most of them.

Also, it is extremely unlikely that we'd replace a digitally preserved original game with an adf dump from tosec.

If however you do have an *original* of the game that you believe is working, please do not hesitate to contact us.

IFW · 16 February 2008, 15:57

This may be your lucky day: I found an authentic different English version dumped.

MazinKaesar · 17 February 2008, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by IFW

As far as we are concerned the disk is bug free and duplicated and how it was sold.
If the game has a bug it is none of our concern.
It is HOW it was SOLD by the PUBLISHER
[...]

Ok, I understand and accept you philosophy, even if it's different from mine.

IFW · 17 February 2008, 15:55

Well, it's preservation as is.
Think about it this way: even if you say don't think a particular picture is very nice, and you think it could be enhanced with a few additional strokes... most people would prefer the original version.

Now the various versions of games are slightly different: they are more similar to records or books.
Some people (collectors) would only go for a 1st edition or for one that has some special attribute, while others would go for a version that sounds the best, or is hard cover and so on.

We try to cover all versions if it is known that they exist, but the primary version covered is almost always the original, 1st print.

It was actually helpful you noticed that though, as it turned out that there is another verison of the game - still marked as 2.0E probably to cover up some fixed code

Luckily the compilation time is included with all and tells a different story:
v1.8 7.6.90 (#524)
v2.0e 24.7.90 (#1589)

US/v2.0e 17.10.90 #secret
v2.0e 17.10.90 #secret

MazinKaesar · 17 February 2008, 16:29

YES!!! It's the same I found as TOSEC! This is the right version, the LOF file (the main executable) is dated 17-oct-90!!!! So, do you plan to release it as "correct" ("alternate"? it's USA only?) SPS image?

IFW · 18 February 2008, 03:19

There is an EU and there is an US version. They probably only differ in disk layout for real.
Both will be available.

MazinKaesar · 19 February 2008, 12:09

Ok, so I'will ask to JOTD to support them when they will be available. Thank you

dlfrsilver · 21 February 2008, 12:23

Fate gate of dawn is the sequel of legend of faerghail

MazinKaesar · 21 February 2008, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Fate gate of dawn is the sequel of legend of faerghail

Really?

I know Fate, but I never heard about it's the sequel of LOF... where do you find this info?

Retro-Nerd · 21 February 2008, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by MazinKaesar

Really?

I know Fate, but I never heard about it's the sequel of LOF... where do you find this info?

It's not really the sequel to LoF. Yan can call it maybe the "inofficial" sequel, because it's from the same publisher reLine.

dlfrsilver · 21 February 2008, 16:07

check english fate manual

i upped it a while ago

Retro-Nerd · 21 February 2008, 16:19

What should i check? Both games have nothing to do with each other, Denis. The development of FGoD starts probably earlier (1986) than the LoF project.

MazinKaesar · 21 February 2008, 18:36

I found an English manual upped on this fan site: http://dungeony.rpghry.cz/fate/ but there is no mention about Legend of Faerghail.

jotd · 22 February 2008, 07:38

the "wrong monster bug" is a slave error I think. That's when I tried to fix an access fault.

MazinKaesar · 22 February 2008, 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

the "wrong monster bug" is a slave error I think. That's when I tried to fix an access fault.

Ok, thank you

MazinKaesar · 11 March 2008, 18:54

@SPS Guys
any news about a release of the working English version?

IFW · 12 March 2008, 12:22

Yes, it is included with the next releases.

17 February 2008, 16:29	#28
MazinKaesar Super Robot Pilot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Modena (Italy) Age: 48 Posts: 870	YES!!! It's the same I found as TOSEC! This is the right version, the LOF file (the main executable) is dated 17-oct-90!!!! So, do you plan to release it as "correct" ("alternate"? it's USA only?) SPS image? Last edited by MazinKaesar; 17 February 2008 at 16:45.

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15 February 2008, 17:23	#21
MazinKaesar Super Robot Pilot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Modena (Italy) Age: 48 Posts: 870	Ok, so I'll report to jotd this truble, and I'll ask him even to support the TOSEC version 2.0e working without the riddle bug. Do you think we have to report to SPS that their 2.0e version is not good and they must replace it with the working TOSEC one?

16 February 2008, 05:23	#24
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	As far as we are concerned the disk is bug free and duplicated and how it was sold. If the game has a bug it is none of our concern. It is HOW it was SOLD by the PUBLISHER. Our concern is to preserve games in their original form. So if said publisher sells a game riddled with bugs, but we have the disks preserved as they were sold the game is good from a preservation standpoint. You get the exact same experience with the paying customers of the game at the time Many games have bugs - including the ones sold just now -, you just simply are not aware of most of them. Also, it is extremely unlikely that we'd replace a digitally preserved original game with an adf dump from tosec. If however you do have an original of the game that you believe is working, please do not hesitate to contact us.

16 February 2008, 15:57	#25
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	This may be your lucky day: I found an authentic different English version dumped.

17 February 2008, 15:55	#27
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Well, it's preservation as is. Think about it this way: even if you say don't think a particular picture is very nice, and you think it could be enhanced with a few additional strokes... most people would prefer the original version. Now the various versions of games are slightly different: they are more similar to records or books. Some people (collectors) would only go for a 1st edition or for one that has some special attribute, while others would go for a version that sounds the best, or is hard cover and so on. We try to cover all versions if it is known that they exist, but the primary version covered is almost always the original, 1st print. It was actually helpful you noticed that though, as it turned out that there is another verison of the game - still marked as 2.0E probably to cover up some fixed code Luckily the compilation time is included with all and tells a different story: v1.8 7.6.90 (#524) v2.0e 24.7.90 (#1589) US/v2.0e 17.10.90 #secret v2.0e 17.10.90 #secret

18 February 2008, 03:19	#29
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	There is an EU and there is an US version. They probably only differ in disk layout for real. Both will be available.

19 February 2008, 12:09	#30
MazinKaesar Super Robot Pilot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Modena (Italy) Age: 48 Posts: 870	Ok, so I'will ask to JOTD to support them when they will be available. Thank you

21 February 2008, 12:23	#31
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,424	Fate gate of dawn is the sequel of legend of faerghail

21 February 2008, 16:07	#34
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,424	check english fate manual i upped it a while ago

21 February 2008, 16:19	#35
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	What should i check? Both games have nothing to do with each other, Denis. The development of FGoD starts probably earlier (1986) than the LoF project.

21 February 2008, 18:36	#36
MazinKaesar Super Robot Pilot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Modena (Italy) Age: 48 Posts: 870	I found an English manual upped on this fan site: http://dungeony.rpghry.cz/fate/ but there is no mention about Legend of Faerghail.

22 February 2008, 07:38	#37
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,201	the "wrong monster bug" is a slave error I think. That's when I tried to fix an access fault.

11 March 2008, 18:54	#39
MazinKaesar Super Robot Pilot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Modena (Italy) Age: 48 Posts: 870	@SPS Guys any news about a release of the working English version?

12 March 2008, 12:22	#40
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Yes, it is included with the next releases.

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