How many Amiga Users were/are Fans of Wing Commander - Page 3

Angus · 29 July 2008, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

Thankya

Back on-topic...

Never played a WC game and I've never really thought about it - what's the Amiga version like, any good?

The CD32 version with the special patch is very good IMO. There are reviews on the AGDB.

_

Some of the later mission get pretty tough, but I did eventually complete it. I didn't personally think the 500 and 1200 versions looked nice enough to bother with, but the CD32 version (which works great on a 1200) looks gorgeous in comparison.

And as far as CD based serious space games go, Star Crusade is a favourite of mine, rather basic polygon ships, but great dogfighting and some nice depth, I remember a nice stealth mission early on in the game which I found very atmospheric..... and there was some sort of combat tactic using the tractor beam that was supposed to exist but I never discovered it.

Yoto · 29 July 2008, 13:21

Could someone please Zone the CD32 version with the paches already applied and the secret operations 1 and 2 disks, please?

(please please with a cherry on top)

I would like to play the Cd32 version as soon as i recover from a hand injury!

girv · 29 July 2008, 15:04

Played WC1 on my A1200 and it roxored. It introduced me to the space combat genre which I still love today. Funnily enough, I played some of the later main series WC games but didn't like them much. I must get on with completing Freespace 2 soon

Yoto · 29 July 2008, 18:06

I also have other space sims like Tachyon, Starlancer (also from Chris Roberts ), Freelancer (aka privateer 3

) and X-Wing alliance!

klx300r · 29 July 2008, 18:38

loved the first Wing Commander and played a few of the early expansion packs...my type of game

I got it working on my 1200 (you can get all files from aminet) with the patch but the 'save game' option doesnt work..anyone know of a version that can save games

klx300r · 29 July 2008, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by gklinger

Not yet. The HOL didn't indicate that it was HD installable so I assumed (wrongly, it would seem) that it wasn't. I have it on good advice that the CD32 version can be installed to the HD and run with a patch. I've also read that getting it to work is difficult and that it will probably run too fast.

I may have to do some kind of tribal dance to make this work. If it starts raining, blame me.

P.S. I will vote in this poll one way or another!

Golan, you can get the CD32 version and patch for the A1200 from aminet...just make sure to put the patch in the same directory as the game and you just run it from the shell (at least on my system thats how i got it running)...its a bit fast with my 030@50 but theres a command at startup to slow it down..(it eludes me now but you can check out a thread I started at lemonamiga)....also the version on aminet doesnt have a save game option which kinda sucks so hopefully a full version patch comes out soon...still awesome to play on a miggy

gklinger · 29 July 2008, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

Golan [...]

Way ahead of you, slick.

Yoto · 29 July 2008, 20:20

From Lemon Amiga Forum:

Resolve Savegame issue in Wing Commander CD32 in Amiga 1200.

As you can see this was taken from a German file and someone tried to babelfish it!

6. Spielstände store
The CD ³ ² stores Spielstände in its own Flashrom. Since with a A1200/A4000 this Flashrom is missing, we must make a few attitudes around this condition to go around.
1) As the first one needs „nonvolatile.library “
2) If this LIBRARY should not be yet on your system, can do you it in the Aminet download. It is contained in the NVTools.
3) On the non removable disk a listing the Spielstände put on to be stored are in which (e.g.: DH0: CD32_savegames).
4) The absolute path in a text file store (e.g.: DH0: CD32_savegames).
5) Afterwards text files under the name „nv_location “store and after „DH0: copy prefs/env_archive/sys “. The second and simpler possibility is:
1) The listing to storing the Spielstände put on (e.g.: DH0: CD32_savegames).
2) after it the following in Shell knock: echo " DH0: CD32_savegames" > envarc: sys/nv location Wars. After a restart can you your Spielstände store now. There should be problems or difficulties despite this Tutorials, then to the forums www.amigaemuboard.net and www.a1k.org turn you

http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/packages/aminet/util/cli/

I also cant get savegame to work.

TCD · 29 July 2008, 20:24

Sounds very strange indeed

Just one word translation : Spielstände = savestates
Do you have the original german file Yoti?

TCD · 29 July 2008, 20:48

Okay, human translation :

1. You need the library 'nonvolatile.library' in your libs directory (which is included in the NVTools an Aminet).
2. Create the directory for your savegames (e.g. 'DH0:Games/WC32_Savegames').
3. Type the following in the shell : echo "DH0:Games/WC32_Savegames" >envarc:sys/nv-location (where "DH0:...' is of course the directory you created in step two)
4. Restart the Amiga and saving should work.

I think the only thing that could be wrong is that the assign 'envarc' is missing, so you should check it with entering 'assign' at the shell.

Yoto · 30 July 2008, 00:41

Thank you TCD!

TCD · 30 July 2008, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotoxionomai

Thank you TCD!

Ah no problem mate

Tell me if it works (haven't tried it myself

)

girv · 30 July 2008, 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotoxionomai

I also have other space sims like Tachyon, Starlancer (also from Chris Roberts ), Freelancer (aka privateer 3

) and X-Wing alliance!

Tachyon: roxors! completed!
Starlancer: always bombed out on the first mission for me

Freelancer: not yet, but it's on the playlist
XW:anything : roxors! completed! (all of them)

Zetr0 · 30 July 2008, 11:56

@griv

How did you complete Tachyon, theres a bug in one of the later levels and it keeps crashing the game, I even emailed the developers and they said all though could do was suggest the latest update patch at the time... which i believe was the last

but for what i played of it.... its fantastic... Bruce Campbell is Awesome! Freelancers good but it gets VERY predictable and well... SLOW toward the end...

Yoto · 30 July 2008, 12:13

Hello Z, i´ve played it too but never saw that bug! I have the original version. (9765-01-301 Stamped in the cd), this is the closest thing i can find to game version number.

klx300r · 30 July 2008, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Okay, human translation :

1. You need the library 'nonvolatile.library' in your libs directory (which is included in the NVTools an Aminet).
2. Create the directory for your savegames (e.g. 'DH0:Games/WC32_Savegames').
3. Type the following in the shell : echo "DH0:Games/WC32_Savegames" >envarc:sys/nv-location (where "DH0:...' is of course the directory you created in step two)
4. Restart the Amiga and saving should work.

I think the only thing that could be wrong is that the assign 'envarc' is missing, so you should check it with entering 'assign' at the shell.

tried this but no luck..anyone get this to work

Yoto · 07 August 2008, 19:40

Ok folks i finally managed to install and enable savegame in Wing Commander for the CD32 in my A1200.
Tested in OS 3.9 in A1200 and WinUAE, but it should run under WB 3.x too.

Now, how to install: (for dummies, with me included)

Copy all of the contents of Wingco dir inside your floppy disks into your HD.
If you are too lazy just click below...

http://www..com/?sharekey=9...09d5f14e533d38

The link above already contains the WCpatch, just download and Unlha to your HD.

http://aminet.net/search?query=nvtools (Makes savegame possible)

http://aminet.net/search?query=wcpatch (Dont need to download this if you already downloaded from the link)

Now that you already have wing commander cd32 disks copied inside your HD just just create a directory by the name of "WC32_savegames" inside your...
...Wingco (If you copied from the disks) and then follow to ***
...WC32 (If you copied from the link) and to **

*** Just unlha Wcpatch and copy the wcpatch tool and sources dir into the root of your Wing Commander´s Dir (wingco, just like above)

**Now just download/install the nvtools, just unlha it directly into your LIB´s dir in your system disk and forget about it!

Assuming you already created the WC32_savegames dir and installed the NVtools, just open the shell window, and type the following command from inside wingco or wc32 dir:
Example:
system:games/wc32
Now, type the following exactly as below:
WC32_savegames >envarc:sys/nv_location
Restart your miggy , open the shell window ...again...travel to the root of your wing commander dir and just type the following:
WCpatch

Extra Notes:

Wing Commander Key Map

Action Button Joy Button1
Afterburner Tab
Fire guns Space
Fire missile Enter
Accelerate +
Decelerate -
Full stop Backspace
Look left F2
Look right F3
Look forward F1
Look behind F4
Chase view F5
Battle view F6
Tactical view F7
Missile view F8
Tail view F9
Cycle weapons W
Cycle guns G
Cycle targets T
Lock target L
Damage HUD D
Autopilot A
Comms select C
Nav Map N
Eject Ctrl-E

Enjoy!

viddi · 07 August 2008, 20:32

I also played Wing Commander Prophecy on the GBA.
Pretty fast and cool conversion.

View Poll Results: Wich WC games from WC series did you played?
Wing Commander I	21	75.00%
Wing Commander I ( The secret missions -1990 exp.	6	21.43%
Wing Commander I: "Crusade" ( The secret missions - 1991 exp.)	2	7.14%
Super Wing Commander 1994	3	10.71%
Wing Commander II "Vengeance of Kilrathi" (1991)	8	28.57%
Wing Commander II ( Secret Operations 1 - 1991)	2	7.14%
Wing Commander II ( Secret Operations 1 - 1992)	2	7.14%
Wing Commander III: "Heart of the Tiger" (1994)	9	32.14%
Wing Commander IV: "The Price of Freedom" (1996)	9	32.14%
Wing Commander: "Prophecy" (1997)	8	28.57%
Wing Commander Prophecy: Secret Ops (1998 exp.)	4	14.29%
Wing Commander Academy (1993)	4	14.29%
Wing Commander: Privateer (1993)	8	28.57%
Wing Commander Armada (1994)	4	14.29%
WCA - Proving Grounds (1994 exp.)	2	7.14%
Wing Commander Academy (1993)	5	17.86%
Wing Commander: Privateer (1993)	5	17.86%
WC Privateer: Righteous Fire (1994 exp.)	4	14.29%
Privateer 2: The Darkening (1996)	6	21.43%
I dont like Wing Commander!	8	28.57%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

29 July 2008, 13:21	#42
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 47 Posts: 572	Could someone please Zone the CD32 version with the paches already applied and the secret operations 1 and 2 disks, please? (please please with a cherry on top) I would like to play the Cd32 version as soon as i recover from a hand injury! Last edited by Yoto; 29 July 2008 at 14:49.

29 July 2008, 20:48	#50
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	Okay, human translation : 1. You need the library 'nonvolatile.library' in your libs directory (which is included in the NVTools an Aminet). 2. Create the directory for your savegames (e.g. 'DH0:Games/WC32_Savegames'). 3. Type the following in the shell : echo "DH0:Games/WC32_Savegames" >envarc:sys/nv-location (where "DH0:...' is of course the directory you created in step two) 4. Restart the Amiga and saving should work. I think the only thing that could be wrong is that the assign 'envarc' is missing, so you should check it with entering 'assign' at the shell. Last edited by TCD; 29 July 2008 at 22:22.

07 August 2008, 19:40	#57
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 47 Posts: 572	Ok folks i finally managed to install and enable savegame in Wing Commander for the CD32 in my A1200. Tested in OS 3.9 in A1200 and WinUAE, but it should run under WB 3.x too. Now, how to install: (for dummies, with me included) Copy all of the contents of Wingco dir inside your floppy disks into your HD. If you are too lazy just click below... http://www..com/?sharekey=9...09d5f14e533d38 The link above already contains the WCpatch, just download and Unlha to your HD. http://aminet.net/search?query=nvtools (Makes savegame possible) http://aminet.net/search?query=wcpatch (Dont need to download this if you already downloaded from the link) Now that you already have wing commander cd32 disks copied inside your HD just just create a directory by the name of "WC32_savegames" inside your... ...Wingco (If you copied from the disks) and then follow to * ...WC32 (If you copied from the link) and to * Just unlha Wcpatch and copy the wcpatch tool and sources dir into the root of your Wing Commander´s Dir (wingco, just like above) Now just download/install the nvtools, just unlha it directly into your LIB´s dir in your system disk and forget about it! Assuming you already created the WC32_savegames dir and installed the NVtools, just open the shell window, and type the following command from inside wingco or wc32 dir: Example: system:games/wc32 Now, type the following exactly as below: WC32_savegames >envarc:sys/nv_location Restart your miggy , open the shell window ...again...travel to the root of your wing commander dir and just type the following: WCpatch Extra Notes: Wing Commander Key Map Action Button Joy Button1 Afterburner Tab Fire guns Space Fire missile Enter Accelerate + Decelerate - Full stop Backspace Look left F2 Look right F3 Look forward F1 Look behind F4 Chase view F5 Battle view F6 Tactical view F7 Missile view F8 Tail view F9 Cycle weapons W Cycle guns G Cycle targets T Lock target L Damage HUD D Autopilot A Comms select C Nav Map N Eject Ctrl-E Enjoy! Last edited by Yoto; 07 August 2008 at 19:50.

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29 July 2008, 15:04	#43
girv Mostly Harmless Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,109	Played WC1 on my A1200 and it roxored. It introduced me to the space combat genre which I still love today. Funnily enough, I played some of the later main series WC games but didn't like them much. I must get on with completing Freespace 2 soon

29 July 2008, 18:06	#44
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 47 Posts: 572	I also have other space sims like Tachyon, Starlancer (also from Chris Roberts ), Freelancer (aka privateer 3 ) and X-Wing alliance!

29 July 2008, 18:38	#45
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	loved the first Wing Commander and played a few of the early expansion packs...my type of game I got it working on my 1200 (you can get all files from aminet) with the patch but the 'save game' option doesnt work..anyone know of a version that can save games

29 July 2008, 20:20	#48
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 47 Posts: 572	From Lemon Amiga Forum: Resolve Savegame issue in Wing Commander CD32 in Amiga 1200. As you can see this was taken from a German file and someone tried to babelfish it! 6. Spielstände store The CD ³ ² stores Spielstände in its own Flashrom. Since with a A1200/A4000 this Flashrom is missing, we must make a few attitudes around this condition to go around. 1) As the first one needs „nonvolatile.library “ 2) If this LIBRARY should not be yet on your system, can do you it in the Aminet download. It is contained in the NVTools. 3) On the non removable disk a listing the Spielstände put on to be stored are in which (e.g.: DH0: CD32_savegames). 4) The absolute path in a text file store (e.g.: DH0: CD32_savegames). 5) Afterwards text files under the name „nv_location “store and after „DH0: copy prefs/env_archive/sys “. The second and simpler possibility is: 1) The listing to storing the Spielstände put on (e.g.: DH0: CD32_savegames). 2) after it the following in Shell knock: echo " DH0: CD32_savegames" > envarc: sys/nv location Wars. After a restart can you your Spielstände store now. There should be problems or difficulties despite this Tutorials, then to the forums www.amigaemuboard.net and www.a1k.org turn you http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/packages/aminet/util/cli/ I also cant get savegame to work.

29 July 2008, 20:24	#49
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	Sounds very strange indeed Just one word translation : Spielstände = savestates Do you have the original german file Yoti?

30 July 2008, 00:41	#51
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 47 Posts: 572	Thank you TCD!

30 July 2008, 11:56	#54
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@griv How did you complete Tachyon, theres a bug in one of the later levels and it keeps crashing the game, I even emailed the developers and they said all though could do was suggest the latest update patch at the time... which i believe was the last but for what i played of it.... its fantastic... Bruce Campbell is Awesome! Freelancers good but it gets VERY predictable and well... SLOW toward the end...

30 July 2008, 12:13	#55
Yoto 1 Potato to Spam´em all! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lost in a Wine Country Age: 47 Posts: 572	Hello Z, i´ve played it too but never saw that bug! I have the original version. (9765-01-301 Stamped in the cd), this is the closest thing i can find to game version number.

07 August 2008, 20:32	#58
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	I also played Wing Commander Prophecy on the GBA. Pretty fast and cool conversion.

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