os3.9 Mediator Startup times.....

DDNI · 29 October 2007, 18:32

Ok I need your startup times to see if my system is abnormally slow. My Hardware specs are in my sig.

I use OS3.9, 3.1 roms. Warpup with Warp3D on a Picasso96 Voodoo3. I boot into 800x600 16bit.
My WB from Cold boots in 1min 48secs.

How does this compare to similar systems out there?

TIA

Pyromania · 30 October 2007, 00:01

I'll check mine this weekend for you.

DDNI · 30 October 2007, 10:26

good man pyro thx

keropi · 30 October 2007, 10:33

2 mins???? WAY too much! I remember my bppc/zorroIV-medZIV was booting in ~30sec...

DDNI · 30 October 2007, 10:54

hmmm I took a look at my 50pin terminator. i bought it as an ACTIVE one. However it does not say active anywhere on it.... Is this OK? or have I been sold a pup?

Would a passive terminator cause these issues?

keropi · 30 October 2007, 10:57

maybe you have not disabled the extra scsi devices in BPPC menu, and the system scans for them in each startup...?

DDNI · 30 October 2007, 11:12

My HDD is on ID2

I only have SCSI device 0 and 2 enabled with 1 LUN each.

I left 0 on as I think that the Terminator is there. Am I right?

keropi · 30 October 2007, 11:24

no, the term needs no ID ...

DDNI · 30 October 2007, 11:27

ok i will disable ID 0 aswell. thanks keropi.

adolescent · 31 October 2007, 06:29

Probably not comparable, but my A4000 with CSMK3, Mediator 4000Di, Voodoo, etc. (cold) boots in a minute (+/-5 seconds). Under two minutes isn't bad at all. If I didn't have a kickflash then I know mine would be another 20-30 seconds.

DDNI · 31 October 2007, 06:53

Ok, I disabled ID0. I also turned on Synchronous for the HDD. Boot time from cold is now 55secs +/- 2 seconds, I have shaved almost a minute from my boot time!

This is a great improvement! Thanks all!

I aint done yet either! Any other suggestions?

AMIGAZ · 31 October 2007, 07:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

Ok, I disabled ID0. I also turned on Synchronous for the HDD. Boot time from cold is now 55secs +/- 2 seconds, I have shaved almost a minute from my boot time!

This is a great improvement! Thanks all!

I aint done yet either! Any other suggestions?

Disable the IDE with for example an IDE-killer, that will probably save you another 30sec it will look for an IDE device since I believe you're using only SCSI?

keropi · 31 October 2007, 07:52

amigo, he uses a 4GB HD on the IDE channel, that cannot be the cause of delay... crossed my mind too, but then I noticed DDNI's sig

AMIGAZ · 31 October 2007, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

amigo, he uses a 4GB HD on the IDE channel, that cannot be the cause of delay... crossed my mind too, but then I noticed DDNI's sig

Ahh...me noticed it now too

DDNI · 30 November 2007, 22:27

Hi again!

Ok I got my system running and booting nice and fast...

Thanks all!!

BUT

I got one last problem. My system takes an absolute age to delete any files. Why is this? My SCSI chain "seems" ok BPPC ---- HDD------Active Term.

I create and read files at about 8.5mb/sec only have an issue with delete. I use latest version of sfs

EDIT

was thinking my SCSI cable has 5 connectors;

1. BPPC
2. Empty
3. HDD
4. Empty
5. Active term

Would it solve any issues if I did this?

1. BPPC
2. HDD
3. Active Term
4. Empty
5. Empty

or must Terminator always be on last connector

adolescent · 01 December 2007, 05:40

@DDNI

Really no difference*. Empty connectors don't have any effect. If you move the terminator up the chain you just won't be able to use the connectors after it.

* Of course, cable length, the speed of electrons, etc. But, no practical difference.

DDNI · 01 December 2007, 14:11

ta, moving the term up the chain will shorten it by at least half.... hmm will try n see

Bamiga2002 · 03 December 2007, 23:55

Thanks, i used the suggested settings in my ppc-bootmenu and the first boot is significantly faster than before.

DDNI · 04 December 2007, 01:34

Fixed my slow delete bu using setcache from sfs archive and adding 400 buffers to each partition...!

Many thanks to Framiga over on Amigaworld.net

28 December 2007, 19:22

havent the best setup yet but it boots in about 35-40 seconds from cold boot to wb

setup:

A4k CS MKI 060/50mhz 128mb
Picollo SD64 4mb
CGX4 1024x768x16
Kickflash os4 (no kickstart as this gets lost after a reboot

)
20GB hd on internal ide (SFS)

29 October 2007, 18:32	#1
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	os3.9 Mediator Startup times..... Ok I need your startup times to see if my system is abnormally slow. My Hardware specs are in my sig. I use OS3.9, 3.1 roms. Warpup with Warp3D on a Picasso96 Voodoo3. I boot into 800x600 16bit. My WB from Cold boots in 1min 48secs. How does this compare to similar systems out there? TIA Last edited by DDNI; 31 October 2007 at 06:54.

30 November 2007, 22:27	#15
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Hi again! Ok I got my system running and booting nice and fast... Thanks all!! BUT I got one last problem. My system takes an absolute age to delete any files. Why is this? My SCSI chain "seems" ok BPPC ---- HDD------Active Term. I create and read files at about 8.5mb/sec only have an issue with delete. I use latest version of sfs EDIT was thinking my SCSI cable has 5 connectors; 1. BPPC 2. Empty 3. HDD 4. Empty 5. Active term Would it solve any issues if I did this? 1. BPPC 2. HDD 3. Active Term 4. Empty 5. Empty or must Terminator always be on last connector Last edited by DDNI; 30 November 2007 at 22:47.

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Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	I'll check mine this weekend for you.

30 October 2007, 10:26	#3
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	good man pyro thx

30 October 2007, 10:33	#4
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	2 mins???? WAY too much! I remember my bppc/zorroIV-medZIV was booting in ~30sec...

30 October 2007, 10:54	#5
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	hmmm I took a look at my 50pin terminator. i bought it as an ACTIVE one. However it does not say active anywhere on it.... Is this OK? or have I been sold a pup? Would a passive terminator cause these issues?

30 October 2007, 10:57	#6
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	maybe you have not disabled the extra scsi devices in BPPC menu, and the system scans for them in each startup...?

30 October 2007, 11:12	#7
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	My HDD is on ID2 I only have SCSI device 0 and 2 enabled with 1 LUN each. I left 0 on as I think that the Terminator is there. Am I right?

30 October 2007, 11:24	#8
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	no, the term needs no ID ...

30 October 2007, 11:27	#9
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	ok i will disable ID 0 aswell. thanks keropi.

31 October 2007, 06:29	#10
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	Probably not comparable, but my A4000 with CSMK3, Mediator 4000Di, Voodoo, etc. (cold) boots in a minute (+/-5 seconds). Under two minutes isn't bad at all. If I didn't have a kickflash then I know mine would be another 20-30 seconds.

31 October 2007, 06:53	#11
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Ok, I disabled ID0. I also turned on Synchronous for the HDD. Boot time from cold is now 55secs +/- 2 seconds, I have shaved almost a minute from my boot time! This is a great improvement! Thanks all! I aint done yet either! Any other suggestions?

31 October 2007, 07:52	#13
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	amigo, he uses a 4GB HD on the IDE channel, that cannot be the cause of delay... crossed my mind too, but then I noticed DDNI's sig

01 December 2007, 05:40	#16
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	@DDNI Really no difference. Empty connectors don't have any effect. If you move the terminator up the chain you just won't be able to use the connectors after it. Of course, cable length, the speed of electrons, etc. But, no practical difference.

01 December 2007, 14:11	#17
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	ta, moving the term up the chain will shorten it by at least half.... hmm will try n see

03 December 2007, 23:55	#18
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Thanks, i used the suggested settings in my ppc-bootmenu and the first boot is significantly faster than before.

04 December 2007, 01:34	#19
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Fixed my slow delete bu using setcache from sfs archive and adding 400 buffers to each partition...! Many thanks to Framiga over on Amigaworld.net

28 December 2007, 19:22	#20
craven1200 Posts: n/a	havent the best setup yet but it boots in about 35-40 seconds from cold boot to wb setup: A4k CS MKI 060/50mhz 128mb Picollo SD64 4mb CGX4 1024x768x16 Kickflash os4 (no kickstart as this gets lost after a reboot ) 20GB hd on internal ide (SFS)

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