Recently released games missing from HOL

[Tsak]

As the title suggests, I've noticed several games from 2016 & 2017 are missing from HOL. Here's a list:

2016

Blake Stone
Catacomb 3D
Giana Sisters S.E.
Hexen II: Hammer of Thyrion
Project Lila
Reshoot
Retro Wars (the Spanish release, English one is due to be released in a few days as far as I know)
Time Gal

2017

Amiinvaders
CannonBall
Killer Bees
Lumberjack
Paralel worlds (beta? 2017?)
Space Hippies
OpenBOR
With Fire and Sword: Spiders
Zodes

Some entries from this year's AmiGameJam:

Bridge Strike (not sure if a special version just for this jam was released)
The last starfighter
BrusLii
Max Knight Xmas Edition

As a plus to the above, I guess most games from this site https://artishq.wordpress.com/ should also be added since those are indeed playable on classic Amigas (even if only on high end ones).

[DamienD]

...then I guess people need to take an active roll themselves i.e. provide screenshots / information to the HOL team; who like the EAB moderation team; are very under-resourced

Originally Posted by Tsak

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Easter Egg

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This is definitely on HOL: >>> Clicky <<<

[Tsak]

Right, missed that

[hipoonios]

Originally Posted by Tsak

As the title suggests, I've noticed several games from 2016 & 2017 are missing from HOL. Here's a list:

Nice list

Originally Posted by Tsak

Max Knight Xmas Edition

Not sure if this is worth a separate entry. The X-Mas Edition was released one year earlier and is the demo version of the full game. The X-Mas Edition has 12 levels and most of them are also in the full game. So updated the entry with a mention that there is a X-Mas Edition and also uploaded some screenshots.

Originally Posted by Tsak

Giana Sisters S.E.

I think this qualify as a hack and what I've heard is hacks banned from HOL. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by Tsak

Retro Wars (the Spanish release, English one is due to be released in a few days as far as I know)
Paralel worlds (beta? 2017?)
Space Hippies

Let's wait for the full games

Originally Posted by Tsak

Project Lila
Reshoot
Catacomb 3D

These would be added long ago if digital downloads was available!

Originally Posted by Tsak

As a plus to the above, I guess most games from this site https://artishq.wordpress.com/ should also be added since those are indeed playable on classic Amigas (even if only on high end ones).

Personally, I do not think these should be added. There are hundreds of these (Linux?/SDL) ports and are not really Amiga games IMHO.

Have no comments for the other games for now.

[Gzegzolka]

Giana SE could be mentioned in comments section, I think it is worth to be there.
Tyrian and Cave Story ports or not, those are now amiga games, even if they were first made for pc. Same story is fan version of Metal Slug.

[Tsak]

Originally Posted by hipoonios

I think this qualify as a hack and what I've heard is hacks banned from HOL. Correct me if I'm wrong.

No, it's a hack indeed.
Didn't know those are excluded from HOL.

Originally Posted by hipoonios

Let's wait for the full games

The Spanish version of Retro Wars is already released (for about a year now).

Originally Posted by hipoonios

Personally, I do not think these should be added. There are hundreds of these (Linux?/SDL) ports and are not really Amiga games IMHO.

Well, this is from HOL fundamentals:
"Some Open Source conversions (e.g. Doom) and games playable through interpreters (e.g. ScummVM or Exult) are listed. These are considered 'native' Amiga games."

So, I don't see why not. You cannot run literally every SDL game out there. Most games listed at that site, someone sat down and made sure they could run on Amiga.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by hipoonios

I think this qualify as a hack and what I've heard is hacks banned from HOL. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by Tsak

No, it's a hack indeed.
Didn't know those are excluded from HOL.

...well then, please tell me what New Year Lemmings 1991/92 is doing on HOL?

Look at the "Notes" section for the above entry


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Regarding Max Knight...

You guys seemed to have missed that I used compression techniques to get the "full intro" onto the .ADF version from the hard drive files; see here...

You should link to that in the "Notes" section

[hipoonios]

Originally Posted by Gzegzolka

Giana SE could be mentioned in comments section, I think it is worth to be there.

Originally Posted by Tsak

No, it's a hack indeed.
Didn't know those are excluded from HOL.

I would like to make an exception and include some info and screens of the S.E. version. But DrBong mention in this thread that they have thrown out many hacks from HOLs early days. So guess the answer is no. I think a mention in the comments section could be added though.

Originally Posted by Tsak

Well, this is from HOL fundamentals:
"Some Open Source conversions (e.g. Doom) and games playable through interpreters (e.g. ScummVM or Exult) are listed. These are considered 'native' Amiga games."

So, I don't see why not. You cannot run literally every SDL game out there. Most games listed at that site, someone sat down and made sure they could run on Amiga.

I know there are a few ports already in HOL. But all these are special in some way and does not need 68060, SDL, AHI and graphics card to run (which most SDL ports does). But again, this is my personal opinion. Better someone from the main team give their view on the matter. CodyJarrett, DrBong are you reading?

There are 140+ more SDL ports on Aminet

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by hipoonios

I would like to make an exception and include some info and screens of the S.E. version. But DrBong mention in this thread that they have thrown out many hacks from HOLs early days. So guess the answer is no. I think a mention in the comments section could be added though.

...but the difference is that it's a new / modern day / high quality "overhaul" (not really a "hack") of a classic Amiga game that every man and his dog knows

Really, it should be considered a new game IMHO.

Anyway, don't listen to Carlo; what does he know??? I'll sort him out; oh antipodean / Vegemite munching brother

[BippyM]

With regards to lemmings.. That isn't hack,wasn't it created by DMA design? Surely that constitutes a release and not a hack.

[DamienD]

No, New Year Lemmings 1991/92 is a hack by "Gastion / FLT". Nothing to do with Psygnosis / DMA...

Read the HOL notes Bipstar

[BippyM]

Too much EAB on my phone lol.. Brain is frazzled

Originally Posted by DamienD

No, New Year Lemmings 1991/92 is a hack by "Gastion / FLT". Nothing to do with Psygnosis / DMA...

Read the HOL notes Bipstar