Elbox Zorro 4 Busboard

BinoX · 22 June 2006, 16:24

Hello.. I was wondering if anyone out there can help me with this...

I have a zorro 4 card, when I plug it into my A1200 with no expansion I get a ROM error (Red screen)... but when I plug a blizzard 060 into it, it sits on a white screen like it's about to boot... but it never does...

So... Can anyone with one tell me how to fix this?

If not.. can you tell me the following?

What all the jumpers do on the board,
Which (if any) A1200 motherboard revisions is doesn't work with
And if it needs anything more than the AT mainboard power supply connector plugged in?

And any other useful hints before I throw it out the window?

keropi · 22 June 2006, 16:42

look here on the BBOH, it has all the jumper settings...

http://amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=1379

BinoX · 22 June 2006, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

look here on the BBOH, it has all the jumper settings...

http://amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=1379

Yeah.. looked there... was wondering if they were wrong...
There seems to be no "no accelerator" option for the board... and it seems that 2 of the jumpers are pointless... was wondering if there were other settings that ppl knew of.

z00mba · 22 June 2006, 18:20

What the heck is Zorro 4?!? Is that "new"?

keropi · 22 June 2006, 18:27

no... it was an elbox invention
on their busboard they made the top 2 zorroII slots to operate in fast modes, for some cards that support this feature...

Smiley · 22 June 2006, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinoX

And any other useful hints before I throw it out the window?

Dont throw it out the window! Sell it to me

BinoX · 22 June 2006, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

no... it was an elbox invention
on their busboard they made the top 2 zorroII slots to operate in fast modes, for some cards that support this feature...

According to this board that's just "Fast Zorro II"..

The Zorro 4 Connectors look very different.. (look at the connector of the Mediator PCI ZIV)

Zetr0 · 26 June 2006, 22:18

Heys binox, I am currently looking at mine now. and this is as it was when it was set up running.

firstly it was using an APOLLO 1260 @50 card with 32MB ram.

jumper settings as follows.

Z2 adjust = off
CFGM = off
CFG0 = on
CFG1 = off
FAST-Z2 = off

hope this helps BinoX

[edit]
PS.
If i remember all those many moons ago my friend, I had to remove some soldering flask from one or two of the pins as it was shorting ( i was getting a nice red screen )

anyways might be wise to double check

lol I just noticed the eyetech sticker/label on the back (says it has 2 clock ports) when i count the top of the board theres 4 of 'em

BinoX · 26 June 2006, 22:20

Hmm... What (A1200) motherboard revision do you have?

Zetr0 · 26 June 2006, 22:23

*diging through boxes * brb

[edit]
back...

okies the board it was pumbed onto ( A1200 REV 2B ) FCC ID BR9530311

BinoX · 26 June 2006, 22:28

Cool

I've heard a lot of people had trouble with the 1D revisions (Which is what I have.. ALL of them) So I ordered a 2B from AmigaKit (Very good service

) and was hoping that it'd be OK...

So when that arrives (Along with my Blizzard PPC) I should have a system going nicely

Zetr0 · 26 June 2006, 22:36

Good luck with it BinoX

BinoX · 26 June 2006, 22:38

Thanks

Hmm.. do you have all the timing fixes to your Revision 2B? or is it just standard?

Zetr0 · 26 June 2006, 22:42

Ooo its just a stock.

No alloys, no NOS, no tuning.. all stock baby!

err... hmmm tomuch NFSMW 3

DDNI · 26 June 2006, 23:39

Rev 2B timing fixes are outlined here. Hope you dont need to use them though.

http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/am..._mobo_fix.html

BinoX · 26 June 2006, 23:40

Thanks

Well, usally the blizzards are stable on non-fixed systems... so if it works OK I'll leave it alone

DJBase · 27 June 2006, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

no... it was an elbox invention
on their busboard they made the top 2 zorroII slots to operate in fast modes, for some cards that support this feature...

AFAIK the Z4 Board was build by ATC (the one who did the Apollo cards) and not Elbox.

keropi · 27 June 2006, 07:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJBase

AFAIK the Z4 Board was build by ATC (the one who did the Apollo cards) and not Elbox.

dunno who built it... but elbox sells it, and they also have sold some apollo 030 cards, so maybe they had a deal or something...
but that busboard is the most close to the original 2000 zorroII implementation.
Also I guess zorroIV refers to the 2 strange slots that mediatorZIV connects to one of them....

DJBase · 11 August 2006, 14:15

Ok, just to clear this point finally:

Concept: Steffen Christ (ACT), Jens Schoenfeld (Individual)
Development: Steffen Christ
Production: DCE
Distribution: Vesalia and Elbox.

So it was not an Elbox invention, they just sold it.

Zetr0 · 11 August 2006, 14:58

so Binox, did you get that z4 busboard running?

22 June 2006, 16:24	#1
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	Elbox Zorro 4 Busboard Hello.. I was wondering if anyone out there can help me with this... I have a zorro 4 card, when I plug it into my A1200 with no expansion I get a ROM error (Red screen)... but when I plug a blizzard 060 into it, it sits on a white screen like it's about to boot... but it never does... So... Can anyone with one tell me how to fix this? If not.. can you tell me the following? What all the jumpers do on the board, Which (if any) A1200 motherboard revisions is doesn't work with And if it needs anything more than the AT mainboard power supply connector plugged in? And any other useful hints before I throw it out the window?

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22 June 2006, 16:42	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	look here on the BBOH, it has all the jumper settings... http://amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=1379

22 June 2006, 18:20	#4
z00mba Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Fr Age: 47 Posts: 185	What the heck is Zorro 4?!? Is that "new"?

22 June 2006, 18:27	#5
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	no... it was an elbox invention on their busboard they made the top 2 zorroII slots to operate in fast modes, for some cards that support this feature...

26 June 2006, 22:18	#8
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Heys binox, I am currently looking at mine now. and this is as it was when it was set up running. firstly it was using an APOLLO 1260 @50 card with 32MB ram. jumper settings as follows. Z2 adjust = off CFGM = off CFG0 = on CFG1 = off FAST-Z2 = off hope this helps BinoX [edit] PS. If i remember all those many moons ago my friend, I had to remove some soldering flask from one or two of the pins as it was shorting ( i was getting a nice red screen ) anyways might be wise to double check lol I just noticed the eyetech sticker/label on the back (says it has 2 clock ports) when i count the top of the board theres 4 of 'em

26 June 2006, 22:20	#9
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	Hmm... What (A1200) motherboard revision do you have?

26 June 2006, 22:23	#10
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	diging through boxes brb [edit] back... okies the board it was pumbed onto ( A1200 REV 2B ) FCC ID BR9530311

26 June 2006, 22:28	#11
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	Cool I've heard a lot of people had trouble with the 1D revisions (Which is what I have.. ALL of them) So I ordered a 2B from AmigaKit (Very good service ) and was hoping that it'd be OK... So when that arrives (Along with my Blizzard PPC) I should have a system going nicely

26 June 2006, 22:36	#12
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Good luck with it BinoX

26 June 2006, 22:38	#13
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	Thanks Hmm.. do you have all the timing fixes to your Revision 2B? or is it just standard?

26 June 2006, 22:42	#14
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Ooo its just a stock. No alloys, no NOS, no tuning.. all stock baby! err... hmmm tomuch NFSMW 3

26 June 2006, 23:39	#15
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Rev 2B timing fixes are outlined here. Hope you dont need to use them though. http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/am..._mobo_fix.html

26 June 2006, 23:40	#16
BinoX Miggy Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom Age: 40 Posts: 831	Thanks Well, usally the blizzards are stable on non-fixed systems... so if it works OK I'll leave it alone

11 August 2006, 14:15	#19
DJBase Amiga is my Religion Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 578	Ok, just to clear this point finally: Concept: Steffen Christ (ACT), Jens Schoenfeld (Individual) Development: Steffen Christ Production: DCE Distribution: Vesalia and Elbox. So it was not an Elbox invention, they just sold it.

11 August 2006, 14:58	#20
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	so Binox, did you get that z4 busboard running?

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