Amiga Laptop

11 August 2004, 14:20

I have read all about the new Amiga G3's etc... and it all sounds great.

I was wondering if anyone knows what so special about the setup, and how it differs from lets say an Ibook G3?

Is it just a couple of chips?

Would it be possible to custom it (soldering iron in hand).

Just a thought.

Would love to chop my ibook into an amiga.

Cheers chaps.

Mark

Amiga1992 · 12 August 2004, 09:01

The special thing is that OS4 is designed to work with a certain bootstrap ROM of sorts. This means that if you don't have this ROM it won't work. Or something like that, it's been said recently in the "Who's got the OS4 pre-release?" thread (I think).

Apple notebooks don't have it, therefore that's why this OS wouldn't run in them. Sadly. I have a G3 iBook that I would love to load with OS4 but they're being arseholes by limiting the OS to the A1 platform. If they opened it to _any_ PPC platform it could only bring good things. (Classic amiga with PPC, old Macs, iBooks, Powerbooks, you name it). Their bleemin' loss.

Quite obviously (for me) an iBook is much better hardware than one of those Amiga1s. And cheaper. I mean almost for the price of a G4 board I might be able to get a full-on G4 iBook!

Here's waiting for people to hack this OS to bits so it works on any PPC hardware.

12 August 2004, 09:11

And I doubt anyone will hack it. One has to be interested in amiga, have the technical knowledge on amigaone hardware and be a non-zealot, own also a mac THEN be bothered with hacking it.

killergorilla · 12 August 2004, 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burseg

And I doubt anyone will hack it. One has to be interested in amiga, have the technical knowledge on amigaone hardware and be a non-zealot, own also a mac THEN be bothered with hacking it.

That's quite a list of criteria. Can't see it happening either

@ Akira, yep the pricepoint is ridiculous. Seems to be the idea to milk the people still willing to 'support' the new amiga community for all it's worth. Oh well, I ain't buying it (the product or the idea)

Sigfrodi · 13 August 2004, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Apple notebooks don't have it, therefore that's why this OS wouldn't run in them. Sadly. I have a G3 iBook that I would love to load with OS4 but they're being arseholes by limiting the OS to the A1 platform. If they opened it to _any_ PPC platform it could only bring good things. (Classic amiga with PPC, old Macs, iBooks, Powerbooks, you name it). Their bleemin' loss..

Well AFAIK OS 4.0 will also be available for Amiga with Cyberstorm PPC and eventually Blizzard PPC.

About AmigaOS4.0 on Apple hardware, since Macintosh is a very closed standard, I suppose that KMOS would need the approval from Apple... I don't really think Apple would agree to that (now I might be wrong). But it would have been great, perhaps something that would persuade me to invest in an Apple computer...

Amiga1992 · 13 August 2004, 22:53

Closed standard? With Open Firmware and the BSD-based OS X?

The Open Firmware is all you need to interface with the hardware (which is standard hardware btw)! Apple's platform is not as closed as before anymore.

Fred the Fop · 14 August 2004, 04:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

The special thing is that OS4 is designed to work with a certain bootstrap ROM of sorts. This means that if you don't have this ROM it won't work. Or something like that, it's been said recently in the "Who's got the OS4 pre-release?" thread (I think).

Apple notebooks don't have it, therefore that's why this OS wouldn't run in them. Sadly. I have a G3 iBook that I would love to load with OS4 but they're being arseholes by limiting the OS to the A1 platform. If they opened it to _any_ PPC platform it could only bring good things. (Classic amiga with PPC, old Macs, iBooks, Powerbooks, you name it). Their bleemin' loss.

Quite obviously (for me) an iBook is much better hardware than one of those Amiga1s. And cheaper. I mean almost for the price of a G4 board I might be able to get a full-on G4 iBook!

Here's waiting for people to hack this OS to bits so it works on any PPC hardware.

Why would you waste an iBook with amiga OS 4?

Amiga1992 · 17 August 2004, 20:18

It's not a waste if I can run the two systems.

I'd be able to use most of the nice AmigaOS apps I come to love without the need of my A1200, on the road.

It's a stable, efficient, fine OS.

Need I say more?

Adeptus · 19 August 2004, 09:29

Surely there's a version of UAE for Mac?

11 August 2004, 14:20	#1
Unregistered Posts: n/a	Amiga Laptop I have read all about the new Amiga G3's etc... and it all sounds great. I was wondering if anyone knows what so special about the setup, and how it differs from lets say an Ibook G3? Is it just a couple of chips? Would it be possible to custom it (soldering iron in hand). Just a thought. Would love to chop my ibook into an amiga. Cheers chaps. Mark

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12 August 2004, 09:01	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	The special thing is that OS4 is designed to work with a certain bootstrap ROM of sorts. This means that if you don't have this ROM it won't work. Or something like that, it's been said recently in the "Who's got the OS4 pre-release?" thread (I think). Apple notebooks don't have it, therefore that's why this OS wouldn't run in them. Sadly. I have a G3 iBook that I would love to load with OS4 but they're being arseholes by limiting the OS to the A1 platform. If they opened it to _any_ PPC platform it could only bring good things. (Classic amiga with PPC, old Macs, iBooks, Powerbooks, you name it). Their bleemin' loss. Quite obviously (for me) an iBook is much better hardware than one of those Amiga1s. And cheaper. I mean almost for the price of a G4 board I might be able to get a full-on G4 iBook! Here's waiting for people to hack this OS to bits so it works on any PPC hardware.

12 August 2004, 09:11	#3
oldpx Posts: n/a	And I doubt anyone will hack it. One has to be interested in amiga, have the technical knowledge on amigaone hardware and be a non-zealot, own also a mac THEN be bothered with hacking it.

13 August 2004, 22:53	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Closed standard? With Open Firmware and the BSD-based OS X? The Open Firmware is all you need to interface with the hardware (which is standard hardware btw)! Apple's platform is not as closed as before anymore.

17 August 2004, 20:18	#8
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	It's not a waste if I can run the two systems. I'd be able to use most of the nice AmigaOS apps I come to love without the need of my A1200, on the road. It's a stable, efficient, fine OS. Need I say more?

19 August 2004, 09:29	#9
Adeptus epun umop ap!sdn Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 285	Surely there's a version of UAE for Mac?

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