amiga chrashing with software failure

[Nikolaj_sofus]

When the amiga crash flashing the red software failure, is it then always because of software or could it be because of hardware like memory or cpu board?

hope someone can clarify this for me

[Chain]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation

[Nikolaj_sofus]

Originally Posted by Chain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation

thanks.. that should help a lot identifying the problem

[Nikolaj_sofus]

i had it crashing some times now, but it doesn't write guru meditation and the syntax is different.

an example for the error code is

"error code 8000 0006 task 1018B7D8"

any ideas on this? after a bit of up time, it crashes all over the place

[alexh]

Not enough information to diagnose.

You need to give details about your system:

• Hardware (Which Amiga, what cards installed, how much RAM, hard drives)
• OS
• OS patches
• Startup Sequence
• User Startup
• Stack size

Then details of when the crash occurs, what software is running at the time etc.

[Nikolaj_sofus]

Originally Posted by alexh

Not enough information to diagnose.

You need to give details about your system:

• Hardware (Which Amiga, what cards installed, how much RAM, hard drives)
• OS
• OS patches
• Startup Sequence
• User Startup
• Stack size

Then details of when the crash occurs, what software is running at the time etc.

amiga 1200 1D4
dkb 1240 (030 acc.) tried with everything from 16-64 mb of mem.
i've been running bloodwych's classic wb FULL when using fast mem. and classic wb lite for testing without fast mem.

im using a 8 gb microdrive for the wb FULL configuration.
and a 2.5 gb microdrive for the wb lite configuration
Both are SFS formatted and the 8 GB microdrive im using the patched scsi. device

I haven't made any alterations to the startup_sequence

I'm now running wb lite without the acc. installed and it haven't been crashing for several hours, so can conclude that it's the accelerator which courses the problems.
WB lite with accelerator installed without fastmem crashes equally to the acc. with fast mem.

I'm waiting for a cpu and fpu which i've bought on ebay to test it with that.

So far everything points to the accelerator.

EDIT!!!
Forgot to mention that the acc. has a 50 mhz 68030 and a 50 mhz 68882.
I've tried both with and without the FPU installed and it actually seems to run worse without the FPU.
I do fail to see the logic in that.

[Doc Mindie]

Personally, though I'm no Amiga hardware expert, it sounds like the acc. board itself, and, unless I'm mistaken, now matter how new CPU/FPU you put on it, it'll always be a bit unstable.

The "BEST" card out there, is the Blizzard cards.... they're usually rockstable and pretty much problemfree.

[Nikolaj_sofus]

Originally Posted by Doc Mindie

Personally, though I'm no Amiga hardware expert, it sounds like the acc. board itself, and, unless I'm mistaken, now matter how new CPU/FPU you put on it, it'll always be a bit unstable.

The "BEST" card out there, is the Blizzard cards.... they're usually rockstable and pretty much problemfree.

I talked to someone else on this board who has a dkb1240 as well and he says that he haven't had any problems of the ones that i described.

[Toni Wilen]

Does it crash (sooner or later) while in early startup menu? (keep both mouse buttons pressed while powering up/reseting)

It is guaranteed hardware problem if it still crashes.

[Nikolaj_sofus]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Does it crash (sooner or later) while in early startup menu? (keep both mouse buttons pressed while powering up/reseting)

It is guaranteed hardware problem if it still crashes.

does it actually already use the expansion card that early?
I see that there is an option to disable cpu caches could that be an option?

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Nikolaj_sofus

does it actually already use the expansion card that early?

Yes. Onboard CPU is totally disabled when accelerator board is installed.

I see that there is an option to disable cpu caches could that be an option?

Perhaps but performance loss would be huge..

Check your power supply, original (white) A1200 PS is very low power one.. For example most A500 PS revisions are much better.

[Skope]

I was also gonna suggest it might be a power issue. I used to have my 1200 crash all the time with an Apollo 1240/40 and two HD's. I had to use an ATX PSU for the HD's for a while, which meant that the only use I had for a PC at that time was to power my Amiga drives.

[Nikolaj_sofus]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Yes. Onboard CPU is totally disabled when accelerator board is installed.



Perhaps but performance loss would be huge..

Check your power supply, original (white) A1200 PS is very low power one.. For example most A500 PS revisions are much better.

i've tried with both the standard PSU and a a500 one.
Both the same problem.

Does anyone actually know anything about the e-matrix board that amigakit sells works with whdload?

[alexh]

Originally Posted by Nikolaj_sofus

Does the e-matrix board that amigakit sells work with whdload?

?? All 030 boards should work equally well with WHDload. The board make / model is almost irrelevant.

I mean, WHDload works reasonably without an accelerator board.

[Nikolaj_sofus]

Originally Posted by alexh

?? All 030 boards should work equally well with WHDload. The board make / model is almost irrelevant.

I mean, WHDload works reasonably without an accelerator board.

I red on this forum that the microbotics m1230xa is quite problematic with whdload... thats why i asked.