Will Pandora be the one to give birth to a proper portable Amiga emulator?

MethodGit · 24 May 2010, 23:19

While WinUAE is naturally the best at it altogether, I would like to one day be able to take its power and capability with me on the move, and in a nifty handheld device. WinUAE-X is/was the best effort in the console world, but everything else so far has had to stick with UAE4ALL which - while good in its own right - naturally has a lot less functionality. PSPUAE is a valiant standout effort, but alas I believe it's stuck having to cope with the fact that its host hardware just isn't meaty enough to chug the whole hog at full speed ahead.

Pandora may well be the one handheld to achieve the ultimate feat if whoever the lucky programmer is plays their cards right - I feel it deserves a lot more than just another quick port of UAE4ALL. Wouldn't it be nice to run a nice ClassicWB/WHDLoad setup from the palm of your hand, or emulate your favourite and under-rated CDTV/CD³² title?

I await with long baited breath for what the future holds.

seuden · 24 May 2010, 23:25

I think the PSP would be meaty enough if there was someone with enough time and coding knowledge.

killergorilla · 24 May 2010, 23:27

I think no.

Retro-Nerd · 24 May 2010, 23:37

Obvisouly not good enough for all Amiga resolutions.

Quote:

800x480 4.3" 16.7 Millionen Farben Touchscreen LCD

killergorilla · 25 May 2010, 00:30

Exactly

MethodGit · 25 May 2010, 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Obvisouly not good enough for all Amiga resolutions.

Name me an Amiga game which necessitated the use of higher resolutions.

Also, WinUAE-X couldn't do higher resolutions either - did that put people off?

killergorilla · 25 May 2010, 02:00

project x, alien breed, benefactor, superfrog...

Retro-Nerd · 25 May 2010, 03:04

You need double pixel and x480 isn't enough. So you have to interpolate 640x512 or higher. It seems pretty stupid to use a 16:9 aspect with a 800x480 resolution.

MethodGit · 25 May 2010, 03:41

I think we got our wires mixed up - I thought you were talking about resolutions like 1024x768, 1280x1024..... Picasso96 resolutions and what not.

T_hairy_bootson · 25 May 2010, 07:41

[ Show youtube player ]

Whats missing on superfrog?

seuden · 25 May 2010, 08:23

[ Show youtube player ]

killergorilla · 25 May 2010, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_hairy_bootson

[ Show youtube player ]

Whats missing on superfrog?

Take a look at the screenshots on HOL. The bottom part of the screen is missing, you can't see the coin.

They should have gone for 512 pixels high. Silly them!

killergorilla · 25 May 2010, 09:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

I think we got our wires mixed up - I thought you were talking about resolutions like 1024x768, 1280x1024..... Picasso96 resolutions and what not.

You got YOUR wires mixed up

TCD · 25 May 2010, 09:16

Maybe.

T_hairy_bootson · 25 May 2010, 11:39

The psp isnt 512 pixels high either and doesn't look too bad, so its up to the emulator authors to support these modes by missing pixels or half pixels or whatever.

killergorilla · 25 May 2010, 11:51

Does anything handheld have the ideal resolution for Amiga emulation?

Not including smartphones and the like, because their controls are terrible.

s2325 · 25 May 2010, 12:00

Cheap PackardBell PocketGear 2030 have ideal screen for Atari ST games (240x320) but it may be too low for Amiga games.

Npl · 25 May 2010, 16:18

most (all?) games dont use the full vertical resolution, TVs dint display it either and games thus werent dependent on it.
Cutting off those 32 pixels wouldnt affect anything but running workbench in full http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan mode.

killergorilla · 25 May 2010, 16:20

Erm.. My TV displayed all of it.

Any game which is designed to make the most of PAL screen will not be fully displayed.

Npl · 25 May 2010, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Erm.. My TV displayed all of it.

Any game which is designed to make the most of PAL screen will not be fully displayed.

Any game I ever played in WinUAE (full Pal res) has black bars (unless you of course mess around with scalers), which makes sense as Pal TVs are at best supposed to display 96.5% of the full height. Mind naming a single one that does use the full resolution?

24 May 2010, 23:19	#1
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	Will Pandora be the one to give birth to a proper portable Amiga emulator? While WinUAE is naturally the best at it altogether, I would like to one day be able to take its power and capability with me on the move, and in a nifty handheld device. WinUAE-X is/was the best effort in the console world, but everything else so far has had to stick with UAE4ALL which - while good in its own right - naturally has a lot less functionality. PSPUAE is a valiant standout effort, but alas I believe it's stuck having to cope with the fact that its host hardware just isn't meaty enough to chug the whole hog at full speed ahead. Pandora may well be the one handheld to achieve the ultimate feat if whoever the lucky programmer is plays their cards right - I feel it deserves a lot more than just another quick port of UAE4ALL. Wouldn't it be nice to run a nice ClassicWB/WHDLoad setup from the palm of your hand, or emulate your favourite and under-rated CDTV/CD³² title? I await with long baited breath for what the future holds.

25 May 2010, 02:00	#7
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	project x, alien breed, benefactor, superfrog... Last edited by killergorilla; 25 May 2010 at 17:04. Reason: I wrongly put Qwak in the list

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24 May 2010, 23:25	#2
seuden uber cool demi god Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent/England Posts: 2,073	I think the PSP would be meaty enough if there was someone with enough time and coding knowledge.

24 May 2010, 23:27	#3
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I think no.

25 May 2010, 00:30	#5
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Exactly

25 May 2010, 03:04	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	You need double pixel and x480 isn't enough. So you have to interpolate 640x512 or higher. It seems pretty stupid to use a 16:9 aspect with a 800x480 resolution.

25 May 2010, 03:41	#9
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	I think we got our wires mixed up - I thought you were talking about resolutions like 1024x768, 1280x1024..... Picasso96 resolutions and what not.

25 May 2010, 07:41	#10
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 2,084	[ Show youtube player ] Whats missing on superfrog?

25 May 2010, 08:23	#11
seuden uber cool demi god Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent/England Posts: 2,073	[ Show youtube player ]

25 May 2010, 09:16	#14
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,540	Maybe.

25 May 2010, 11:39	#15
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 2,084	The psp isnt 512 pixels high either and doesn't look too bad, so its up to the emulator authors to support these modes by missing pixels or half pixels or whatever.

25 May 2010, 11:51	#16
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Does anything handheld have the ideal resolution for Amiga emulation? Not including smartphones and the like, because their controls are terrible.

25 May 2010, 12:00	#17
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Cheap PackardBell PocketGear 2030 have ideal screen for Atari ST games (240x320) but it may be too low for Amiga games.

25 May 2010, 16:18	#18
Npl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vienna / Austria Age: 44 Posts: 257	most (all?) games dont use the full vertical resolution, TVs dint display it either and games thus werent dependent on it. Cutting off those 32 pixels wouldnt affect anything but running workbench in full http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan mode.

25 May 2010, 16:20	#19
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Erm.. My TV displayed all of it. Any game which is designed to make the most of PAL screen will not be fully displayed.

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