Angry Video Game Nerd TRASHES the Amiga CD32!! - Page 8

DamienD · 27 November 2018, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Never wanted a CD32. The build quality of the console is god awful, and it has no RGB out without an expansion.

Totally agree; not to mention the majority of crap games that don't really offer anything above A500 / A1200 counterparts; except for maybe CD audio, so what...

rare_j · 27 November 2018, 21:46

I'm surprised that he put the boot into Putty though. It still looks great, sounds great and plays great and is full of genuine laugh out loud moments.
He dropped the ball there for sure.

DamienD · 27 November 2018, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

This is why i never bought an A1200!

...and why I never bought an A1200 or CD32

-Acid- · 27 November 2018, 23:55

They just made ARG take down their latest podcast from youtube because it showed the clip of the AVGN episode.... talk about double standards lol

mcgeezer · 28 November 2018, 00:17

I honestly cant believe this has got over 100 posts. incredible passionate stuff.

dreamkatcha · 28 November 2018, 00:22

Watch some dude eat stuff and forget to 'react' while he watches the AVGN CD32 episode

[ Show youtube player ]

Some dude's nasal passageway reacts to the AVGN CD32 episode

[ Show youtube player ]

Foebane · 28 November 2018, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

This is why i never bought an A1200!

I had an A1200.

But technically, I never bought it for myself, it was a birthday gift. My father called it a Scalextric as it had the Nigel Mansell game in it.

He also put a cushion on top of the box so as to hide the "85Mb HD" sticker on it, much to my surprise.

Konrad · 28 November 2018, 00:28

Compared to A1200 and A4000 desktop computers the CD32 already didn't stand a chance.
The only feature worth mentioning is the CDROM-drive; which I easily added to my A2000 and A4000. The drive I put in my A4000 even came with a perfectly working CD32 emulator. I did word processing, music, gfx, gaming with A2000+A4000, and could do cd32 gaming on top with my A4000.
For A1200 it wasn't that easy/cheap to add an (external) CD-ROM-drive. So you couldn't play CD32 games on it, but still play OCS/ECS/AGA games and do everyhing else above mentioned.

What really good games did the CD32 have which weren't available for A500 or A1200 ?
Which CD32 games really stood out to convince a buyer (heck, even an Amiga fan) to buy a CD32, and not a SNES or Megadrive ? I can't think of any, really.

IMO the CD32 offered nothing to stand out to its competitors. Neither against consoles (SNES, Megadrive), nor against desktop Amigas A1200+A4000.

Take off those rose-coloured glasses, the CD32 was crap.

DamienD · 28 November 2018, 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad

What really good games did the CD32 have which weren't available for A500 or A1200 ?
Which CD32 games really stood out to convince a buyer (heck, even an Amiga fan) to buy a CD32, and not a SNES or Megadrive ? I can't think of any, really.

IMO the CD32 offered nothing to stand out to its competitors. Neither against consoles (SNES, Megadrive), nor against desktop Amigas A1200+A4000.

Take off those rose-coloured glasses, the CD32 was crap.

Ahem, the CD32 was absolute rubbish

eXeler0 · 28 November 2018, 01:04

This AVGN video is actually pretty good representation of what I felt when the CD32 came out ;-)

Retro-Nerd · 28 November 2018, 01:10

Here in Germany Commodore sold probably less than 30.000 consoles. It was on display in some Computer shops for a few days. But nobody cared about it. For the obvious reasons. There are a few good CD32 versions like Pirates Gold, but nothing that would justify to buy the hardware. A dead horse from the beginning. And it was released against the advice of the most inhouse hardware designer.

Foebane · 28 November 2018, 09:02

Yes, that was the annoying thing about Commodore management, they simply released stuff that no-one wanted, and I found that out after getting my OCS Amiga 500:

The A500+, which only featured the ECS and a new ROM, but they sold it as an entirely different model rather than an chip kit.

The A600, another update that they felt needed a whole new case design, and while it added new features like HD bays and PCMCIA, it cut off a whole part of the keyboard that some games needed. A major misstep.

And then, of course, their obsession with CD-ROM, in the form of the CDTV, except they wanted it to go in the living room under the TV together with the VHS and the stereo and have it NOT be specifically called Amiga, as if they were hoping to launch this new format but wanted their own name on it, when it was really Amiga hardware running it. It failed. And they did it again with the CD32, since Commodore finally noticed that consoles were in popular demand, but they couldn't be bothered to bring out a new chipset (unlike Atari who tried with the Jaguar), and they both failed.

And worst of all? Commodore didn't learn from their mistakes.

As the AVGN is fond of exclaiming: WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

britelite · 28 November 2018, 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

People can’t face the truth that people had fun on the CD32, 3DO, Jaguar even though they ‘lost’ whatever that means, apparently you need to sell 20 million units not to called a crap console, grow up guys!

Translation: How dare you guys criticize something I happened to own!

Predseda · 28 November 2018, 09:40

britelite · 28 November 2018, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

Not at all, i expect it from uneducated guys on Youtube, but from Amiga fans its uncalled for that’s all.

Ahh, so we must blindly praise everything Amiga? Got it!

dlfrsilver · 28 November 2018, 09:52

the CD32 was and is to me the most rubbish Amiga. Sorry

Gordon · 28 November 2018, 09:56

Anyone who supports AVGNs video is not an Amiga fan. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but to throw an Amiga in the trash, is like burning a countries flag or ripping up the bible. Its sacrilege and its disgusting.

dlfrsilver · 28 November 2018, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

Anyone who supports AVGNs video is not an Amiga fan. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but to throw an Amiga in the trash, is like burning a countries flag or ripping up the bible. Its sacrilege and its disgusting.

britelite · 28 November 2018, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

Well if you blindy slag something off i have no time for people like that

Most people here haven't "blindly slagged off" anything, I've mostly seen very valid arguments.

Quote:

So in answer to your sarcastic question, no you don’t!

Apparently we do, because otherwise you seem to get upset and need to resort to name calling, so...

Foebane · 28 November 2018, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

You guys are supposed to be Amiga fans but are quick to jump on the bandwagon when someone slags off either the CD32 or CDTV because they are ‘consoles’ and its the cool thing to slag off anything different.

Truth is the ONLY decent Amiga for your money was the A500, we all know that, and ALL the AGA machines were technically ‘crap’

I wasn't slagging off the machines, just saying that not so many models were needed.

Unlike you, who slags off the AGA machines but claims to be an Amiga fan. Or when you say "you guys are supposed to be Amiga fans", do you not count yourself in that group?

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27 November 2018, 21:46	#142
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	I'm surprised that he put the boot into Putty though. It still looks great, sounds great and plays great and is full of genuine laugh out loud moments. He dropped the ball there for sure.

27 November 2018, 23:55	#144
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	They just made ARG take down their latest podcast from youtube because it showed the clip of the AVGN episode.... talk about double standards lol

28 November 2018, 00:17	#145
mcgeezer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Sunderland, England Posts: 2,702	I honestly cant believe this has got over 100 posts. incredible passionate stuff.

28 November 2018, 00:22	#146
dreamkatcha I've got a new byline Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,219	Watch some dude eat stuff and forget to 'react' while he watches the AVGN CD32 episode [ Show youtube player ] Some dude's nasal passageway reacts to the AVGN CD32 episode [ Show youtube player ]

28 November 2018, 00:28	#148
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Compared to A1200 and A4000 desktop computers the CD32 already didn't stand a chance. The only feature worth mentioning is the CDROM-drive; which I easily added to my A2000 and A4000. The drive I put in my A4000 even came with a perfectly working CD32 emulator. I did word processing, music, gfx, gaming with A2000+A4000, and could do cd32 gaming on top with my A4000. For A1200 it wasn't that easy/cheap to add an (external) CD-ROM-drive. So you couldn't play CD32 games on it, but still play OCS/ECS/AGA games and do everyhing else above mentioned. What really good games did the CD32 have which weren't available for A500 or A1200 ? Which CD32 games really stood out to convince a buyer (heck, even an Amiga fan) to buy a CD32, and not a SNES or Megadrive ? I can't think of any, really. IMO the CD32 offered nothing to stand out to its competitors. Neither against consoles (SNES, Megadrive), nor against desktop Amigas A1200+A4000. Take off those rose-coloured glasses, the CD32 was crap.

28 November 2018, 01:04	#150
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,946	This AVGN video is actually pretty good representation of what I felt when the CD32 came out ;-)

28 November 2018, 01:10	#151
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Here in Germany Commodore sold probably less than 30.000 consoles. It was on display in some Computer shops for a few days. But nobody cared about it. For the obvious reasons. There are a few good CD32 versions like Pirates Gold, but nothing that would justify to buy the hardware. A dead horse from the beginning. And it was released against the advice of the most inhouse hardware designer.

28 November 2018, 09:02	#152
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	Yes, that was the annoying thing about Commodore management, they simply released stuff that no-one wanted, and I found that out after getting my OCS Amiga 500: The A500+, which only featured the ECS and a new ROM, but they sold it as an entirely different model rather than an chip kit. The A600, another update that they felt needed a whole new case design, and while it added new features like HD bays and PCMCIA, it cut off a whole part of the keyboard that some games needed. A major misstep. And then, of course, their obsession with CD-ROM, in the form of the CDTV, except they wanted it to go in the living room under the TV together with the VHS and the stereo and have it NOT be specifically called Amiga, as if they were hoping to launch this new format but wanted their own name on it, when it was really Amiga hardware running it. It failed. And they did it again with the CD32, since Commodore finally noticed that consoles were in popular demand, but they couldn't be bothered to bring out a new chipset (unlike Atari who tried with the Jaguar), and they both failed. And worst of all? Commodore didn't learn from their mistakes. As the AVGN is fond of exclaiming: WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

28 November 2018, 09:40	#154
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539

28 November 2018, 09:52	#156
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	the CD32 was and is to me the most rubbish Amiga. Sorry

28 November 2018, 09:56	#157
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	Anyone who supports AVGNs video is not an Amiga fan. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but to throw an Amiga in the trash, is like burning a countries flag or ripping up the bible. Its sacrilege and its disgusting.

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