Problems with UAE under Linux...

10 February 2002, 19:00

lo,
i've downloaded and compiled several versions of UAE and i've got at all the the same problem...
The Emulator is slow as hell...
normally, when Kickstart loads, it loads fast but smooth..
But at me it loads.. like u play q3 on 10 FPS...
It stocks all the time...
Do u have any idea what to do ?
Here is some information out of the shell:

lett@linux:~ > uae
Testing the RDTSC instruction ... done.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 834.25 BogoMIPS
No joysticks found
Sound driver found and configured for 16 bits at 44100 Hz, buffer is 8192 bytes
Follow sprite mode set
No disk in drive 0.
Building CPU table for configuration: 68020
1862 CPU functions
Building CPU function table (2 0 0).
Using 24 bit visual, 32 bits per pixel
Using normal image buffer.
Don't care mouse mode set
Using PAL timing
Filesystem: mapped memory @$e90000.
Card 1 (ZorroII) done.
DMACON: 3d0 INTENA: 602c INTREQ: 60 VPOS: 0 HPOS: 7
COP1LC: 000025a8, COP2LC: 00010840
DIWSTRT: 0581 DIWSTOP: 40c1 DDFSTRT: 0038 DDFSTOP: 00d0
Average frame time: 19 ms [frames: 525 time: 10315]

I hope u can help... cause like this it is unplayable...
The Emulator runs very slow... i must have done something wrong...
Btw. I use SuSE Linux 7.2

Greets Lett

andreas · 10 February 2002, 20:40

It *might* be useful to tell us your CPU type and frequency.

10 February 2002, 21:45

I've got a Intel P III 833....
396Mb ram...

Hope u can help...

Greets Lett

andreas · 10 February 2002, 23:03

OK, so it's NOT a CPU problem.
With a P166 or similar you couldn't have expected good performance with UAE, even though you are under Linux...

Chuckles · 10 February 2002, 23:33

I didn't pick up from the original post in this thread whether the poor performance is seen only when trying to run a particular game, or if it is seen with all games. Also, I'm running WinUAE instead of the Linux version, but just in case this problem is only occuring with certain titles, I thought I'd pass this along. I do know that when running certain titles, I've seen my frame rates drop from the usual 58 fps or so to around 15 - 17 fps. Usually though, I've found that using a different Kickstart version with that title has made a difference. I had that problem just last night, as a matter of fact, and after switching from Kickstart 1.3 to 3.1, everything ran great. Hope this helps.

TikTok · 11 February 2002, 08:31

Can you also port your UAE config/the parameters you are using to call it please?

11 February 2002, 18:56

K..
I cant even get into a prog. or a game... even the kickstart screen is slow as hell...
here's my config:

kickstart_rom_file=/home/lett/Kick13.rom
gfx_width=800
gfx_height=600
gfx_linemode=double
use_gui=yes

and the second problem is, I cant see the config. window with CPU-settings etc. do u know, how I can call it ?
I call UAE with uae.. for example:

user@home> uae

And what could be the performance problem ?

Hope u can help...

Greets Lett

andreas · 11 February 2002, 21:54

Quote:

and the second problem is, I cant see the config. window with CPU-settings etc. do u know, how I can call it ?

You might have compiled the UAE from source without the GTK toolkit which is for displaying the GUI in uae (X11 version).
Without the GUI, it is utterly a pain in the ass of course... if you're forced to hack in every bloody parameter at the command line.

If you don't know where to get GTK, I can point you to the appropriate direction(s).

11 February 2002, 22:11

ok.. would be cool, if u could give me the link, but I think I got GTK(+) installed, cause I've got SuSE7.2 maybe the wrong version....

11 February 2002, 22:26

He say's, that I havent got GTK+ 1.2.9 but I have got the newest version... I compiled it 5 mins. before.. how can I say to UAE that I have the newest one ? Must I deinstall the old first and install then the new one ?
Or how can I make this ?

Greets Lett

12 February 2002, 18:29

Ok, i deinstalled GTK+ and recompiled it and now it works...
I found out what my Prob. is:
If I activate the sound, UAE is veeeery slow.. but if I turn it off, its speed is normal...
Do u know what to do ?

andreas · 12 February 2002, 21:04

Whoops...

Well, deinstalling wasn't necessary at all. The crucial thing was that SuSE only installs the GTK+ runtime, what you need is the source tree for developers.
Nevertheless, it works, that's good

Could you try the sound drivers from ALSA?
http://www.alsa-project.org

I don't know which sound card you're using, but it fixed a lot of speed issues back in the beginning of '99 when I had just bought my Soundblaster Live! Value (I still have it) and there were no drivers available that worked satisfyingly enough!

13 February 2002, 18:09

Um... I've got alsa installed allready with SuSE 7.2...
I use a SB Live! 5.1....
Do u think, i should install new drivers ?
If yes, what must i add in etc/modules.conf ?

Greets Lett

13 February 2002, 20:34

Please help me...
I think, its the sound, cause its really ugly sometimes.. and slows down all the things..
I dont know what to do

Greets Lett

Miggy2TheMax · 13 February 2002, 22:05

I find the same thing with sound under uae in linux.. its pretty lame .. that is why I stick to the real thing

anyhow looking thru the configure file under uae8.20 I find:

--with-sdl Use SDL library for low-level functions"
--with-sdl-sound Use SDL library for sound"
--with-sdl-gfx Use SDL library for graphics"

have you tried compiling it with SDL libraries, you might find that it runs better under that. Tell me how that goes.. I haven't really tried using those libraries, so I'll be intrested on your findings.

hope that helps.

andreas · 13 February 2002, 22:09

5.1? Ah, that's either a Live! Player or Live! Platinum card.
I just think that the drivers aren't advanced enough yet...updating the ALSA drivers to some betas from the ALSA page might solve the problem...

Did you try to compile an old WinUAE, for example 0.8.6? It might be that the change in the sound code slows down your system.
Here you can find some old UAE source trees.

10 February 2002, 19:00	#1
Lettmennli Posts: n/a	Problems with UAE under Linux... lo, i've downloaded and compiled several versions of UAE and i've got at all the the same problem... The Emulator is slow as hell... normally, when Kickstart loads, it loads fast but smooth.. But at me it loads.. like u play q3 on 10 FPS... It stocks all the time... Do u have any idea what to do ? Here is some information out of the shell: lett@linux:~ > uae Testing the RDTSC instruction ... done. Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 834.25 BogoMIPS No joysticks found Sound driver found and configured for 16 bits at 44100 Hz, buffer is 8192 bytes Follow sprite mode set No disk in drive 0. Building CPU table for configuration: 68020 1862 CPU functions Building CPU function table (2 0 0). Using 24 bit visual, 32 bits per pixel Using normal image buffer. Don't care mouse mode set Using PAL timing Filesystem: mapped memory @$e90000. Card 1 (ZorroII) done. DMACON: 3d0 INTENA: 602c INTREQ: 60 VPOS: 0 HPOS: 7 COP1LC: 000025a8, COP2LC: 00010840 DIWSTRT: 0581 DIWSTOP: 40c1 DDFSTRT: 0038 DDFSTOP: 00d0 Average frame time: 19 ms [frames: 525 time: 10315] I hope u can help... cause like this it is unplayable... The Emulator runs very slow... i must have done something wrong... Btw. I use SuSE Linux 7.2 Greets Lett

13 February 2002, 22:05	#15
Miggy2TheMax Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Australia Age: 45 Posts: 381	WinUAE under linux I find the same thing with sound under uae in linux.. its pretty lame .. that is why I stick to the real thing anyhow looking thru the configure file under uae8.20 I find: --with-sdl Use SDL library for low-level functions" --with-sdl-sound Use SDL library for sound" --with-sdl-gfx Use SDL library for graphics" have you tried compiling it with SDL libraries, you might find that it runs better under that. Tell me how that goes.. I haven't really tried using those libraries, so I'll be intrested on your findings. hope that helps.

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10 February 2002, 20:40	#2
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	It might be useful to tell us your CPU type and frequency.

10 February 2002, 21:45	#3
Lettmennli Posts: n/a	I've got a Intel P III 833.... 396Mb ram... Hope u can help... Greets Lett

10 February 2002, 23:03	#4
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	OK, so it's NOT a CPU problem. With a P166 or similar you couldn't have expected good performance with UAE, even though you are under Linux...

10 February 2002, 23:33	#5
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 68 Posts: 685	I didn't pick up from the original post in this thread whether the poor performance is seen only when trying to run a particular game, or if it is seen with all games. Also, I'm running WinUAE instead of the Linux version, but just in case this problem is only occuring with certain titles, I thought I'd pass this along. I do know that when running certain titles, I've seen my frame rates drop from the usual 58 fps or so to around 15 - 17 fps. Usually though, I've found that using a different Kickstart version with that title has made a difference. I had that problem just last night, as a matter of fact, and after switching from Kickstart 1.3 to 3.1, everything ran great. Hope this helps.

11 February 2002, 08:31	#6
TikTok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Malayasia Age: 43 Posts: 657	Can you also port your UAE config/the parameters you are using to call it please?

11 February 2002, 18:56	#7
Lettmennli Posts: n/a	K.. I cant even get into a prog. or a game... even the kickstart screen is slow as hell... here's my config: kickstart_rom_file=/home/lett/Kick13.rom gfx_width=800 gfx_height=600 gfx_linemode=double use_gui=yes and the second problem is, I cant see the config. window with CPU-settings etc. do u know, how I can call it ? I call UAE with uae.. for example: user@home> uae And what could be the performance problem ? Hope u can help... Greets Lett

11 February 2002, 22:11	#9
Lettmennli Posts: n/a	ok.. would be cool, if u could give me the link, but I think I got GTK(+) installed, cause I've got SuSE7.2 maybe the wrong version....

11 February 2002, 22:26	#10
Lettmennli Posts: n/a	He say's, that I havent got GTK+ 1.2.9 but I have got the newest version... I compiled it 5 mins. before.. how can I say to UAE that I have the newest one ? Must I deinstall the old first and install then the new one ? Or how can I make this ? Greets Lett

12 February 2002, 18:29	#11
Lettmennli Posts: n/a	Ok, i deinstalled GTK+ and recompiled it and now it works... I found out what my Prob. is: If I activate the sound, UAE is veeeery slow.. but if I turn it off, its speed is normal... Do u know what to do ?

12 February 2002, 21:04	#12
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Whoops... Well, deinstalling wasn't necessary at all. The crucial thing was that SuSE only installs the GTK+ runtime, what you need is the source tree for developers. Nevertheless, it works, that's good Could you try the sound drivers from ALSA? http://www.alsa-project.org I don't know which sound card you're using, but it fixed a lot of speed issues back in the beginning of '99 when I had just bought my Soundblaster Live! Value (I still have it) and there were no drivers available that worked satisfyingly enough!

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13 February 2002, 18:09	#13
Lettmennli Posts: n/a	Um... I've got alsa installed allready with SuSE 7.2... I use a SB Live! 5.1.... Do u think, i should install new drivers ? If yes, what must i add in etc/modules.conf ? Greets Lett

13 February 2002, 20:34	#14
Lettmennli Posts: n/a	Please help me... I think, its the sound, cause its really ugly sometimes.. and slows down all the things.. I dont know what to do Greets Lett

13 February 2002, 22:09	#16
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	5.1? Ah, that's either a Live! Player or Live! Platinum card. I just think that the drivers aren't advanced enough yet...updating the ALSA drivers to some betas from the ALSA page might solve the problem... Did you try to compile an old WinUAE, for example 0.8.6? It might be that the change in the sound code slows down your system. Here you can find some old UAE source trees.