Amiga Inc. will die in the current bad economy? Opinions? - Page 5

paranoid · 04 March 2009, 19:46

"such as version of OS4 for PPC Macs"

Well that completes the transvestite turn in this thread.

Shoonay · 04 March 2009, 20:08

I'm a Amiga retro fan in 75%, and a lurker at the current situation in 25%

Just because I can't afford one it doesn't mean I can't be interested in it, even if "it's the first step to hell".

I would like the Amiga to live it's Zombie life as long as it takes, and comeback one day with a bang...

Skope · 04 March 2009, 20:55

If anything OS4 should be ported to Intel architecture and _not_ outdated and obscure hardware. I can't really follow the logic behind preferring PPC hardware when you can get multiple times the prestanda for half the price choosing Intel arch. Plus Intel family computers are way more common in households and I feel like more people would be inclined to buy and run OS4 if they already have the hardware it supports. I know I'm never ever gonna cough up hundreds of euros for dated technology (errr well it's not like PPC systems file under retro computing anyway).

Madcrow · 04 March 2009, 21:36

That's why something like a PS3 port would make the most sense. Given that Linux runs just fine on the PS3, and that Hyperion says they've got a non-public version AOS4 running on the PS3 as well, having a PS3 version seems like a no-brainer. Packaged with a few key programs like OWB, AmigaWriter (which works fine in emulation mode) and Art Effect 4 (ditto), the pacakage would outperform PS3 Linux, be easier to use and more useful. It would sell like crazy and Amiga would rise again as THE 3rd part OS for the PS3. But Amiga Inc is too scared to let Hyperion make the release.

Heck, since AmigaOS is closed source, Sony might even grant the devs access to the 3D hardware, unlike the Linux devs who only get a virtualized 2D framebuffer to work with.

Skope · 04 March 2009, 21:38

@Madcrow

That's an even better idea.

Predabot · 04 March 2009, 22:28

That's a pretty interesting idea actually... Amiga OS on a playstation.

How many A500 Boing-balls do you wager a PS3 can display and render at the same time, lads?

NovaCoder · 04 March 2009, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madcrow

As I said before, Amiga Inc is holding back the platform. Hyperion has all sorts of neat things that would sell like crazy: such as version of OS4 for PPC Macs and the PS3, that they can't really release for fear of causing problems in their legal battle with Amiga Inc. If Amiga Inc were to die, those who actually give a crap about the Amiga would be in a MUCH better position to actually do stuff.

Ahmen to that

Madcrow · 05 March 2009, 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

That's a pretty interesting idea actually... Amiga OS on a playstation.

How many A500 Boing-balls do you wager a PS3 can display and render at the same time, lads?

That depends... Do we get to use the SPUs and the GPU or just the CPU and framebuffer. Either way, it's a lot of 'em. I also propose an "official" name for such a concoction. The Amiga BR64...

Amiga1992 · 05 March 2009, 02:40

I keep laughing at this thread

AmigaFriend · 05 March 2009, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skope

If anything OS4 should be ported to Intel architecture and _not_ outdated and obscure hardware. I can't really follow the logic behind preferring PPC hardware when you can get multiple times the prestanda for half the price choosing Intel arch. Plus Intel family computers are way more common in households and I feel like more people would be inclined to buy and run OS4.

I second that definitely, Skope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madcrow

But Amiga Inc is too scared to let Hyperion make the release.

That's why Amiga Inc sucks by time. Any sense business decision is what they are NOT know by.

Ah! Their web site gives me the creeps!

Slayer · 05 March 2009, 21:33

I generally think these kind of threads are useless or pointless, but as I've come to expect the general body of humanity insists on discussing these kind of topics.

To me the Amiga is not classic retro or otherwise.

I brought my Amiga in 1986 and have never stopped using AmigaOS since so for me at least the Amiga experience is current and continuing to evolve.

I have a SAM now and running OS4.1 and things have never looked better...

Amiga Inc or anyone else for that matter could simply disappear, it wouldn't make any damn difference except I'd have to make do with what I have and what I can acquire over the next 10-20 years from people selling there equipment, but since I have 55 Amiga Hardware Systems to date, I don't see myself running out of Anything Amiga for my lifetime at any rate, so my Amiga experience will always be current...

Pyromania · 05 March 2009, 22:23

Damn 55 Amiga systems??? You have me beat.

Slayer · 05 March 2009, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyromania

Damn 55 Amiga systems??? You have me beat.

Yeah, I've been saying for the last 5 years or so it's over 40 odd. I had a count up and added it to my sig on Amigaworld for the hell of it and it's 55. And only bound to increase, I seriously have so much addons too it's crazy. for instance, I have 8 A590s. LOL

Pyromania · 05 March 2009, 22:32

@Slayer

Got any CD32 FMV's? I need one of those.

Slayer · 06 March 2009, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyromania

@Slayer

Got any CD32 FMV's? I need one of those.

I have 2 but I am 7 short, got 9 CD32s

sorry, couldn't resist a little black comedy? I do have 3xSX1s but they aren't really the same thing. I'd like to help you out Pyromania but I truely don't sell Amiga Stuff.

Never sold anything Amiga from early 1986 to today, do not worry though, one will come up eventually, they aren't that rare.

besides People seem to think it's worthless and ancient and you should have it for next to nothing, well. I'd rather keep it for absolutely nothing instead

AmigaFriend · 06 March 2009, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

I'd rather keep it for absolutely nothing instead

That is indeed a nice thought Slayer.

PWLM · 06 March 2009, 13:22

@paranoid: you hit the nail on the head on the first page: the fact that Cloanto holds the copyright to the ROMs has not stopped anyone from accessing them for free. Anyone trying to make money off the Amiga name these days is barking up the wrong tree. Young idiots who buy everything they know, don't know Amiga. And old idiots like me know better!

Predabot · 07 March 2009, 01:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madcrow

That depends... Do we get to use the SPUs and the GPU or just the CPU and framebuffer. Either way, it's a lot of 'em. I also propose an "official" name for such a concoction. The Amiga BR64...

Since the original Amiga was all about using the GPU and SPU as well, then yes, of course we must use those.

That would be sweet... a PS3 with OS4.1... and then a clever guy could take out the entire PS3 board and put it in an old A4000 box ( think it could fit..?) and then some external HD's with UAE ( surely someone has ported it to AOS4?) and a Bluray, and you're good to go!

ULTIMATE AMIGA!!

(seriously tho, that would be pretty cool, wouldn't it? I mean, it's fully possible to do this as a hobby-project.)

Retro-Nerd · 07 March 2009, 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWLM

@paranoid: you hit the nail on the head on the first page: the fact that Cloanto holds the copyright to the ROMs has not stopped anyone from accessing them for free. Anyone trying to make money off the Amiga name these days is barking up the wrong tree. Young idiots who buy everything they know, don't know Amiga. And old idiots like me know better!

Cloanto don't hold the kickstarts copyright. They have distribution rights.

Amiga1992 · 07 March 2009, 03:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

(seriously tho, that would be pretty cool, wouldn't it? I mean, it's fully possible to do this as a hobby-project.)

You best do that with a PC instead of a PS3.

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04 March 2009, 19:46	#81
paranoid Phone Zen Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Banned Age: 52 Posts: 234	"such as version of OS4 for PPC Macs" Well that completes the transvestite turn in this thread.

04 March 2009, 20:08	#82
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	I'm a Amiga retro fan in 75%, and a lurker at the current situation in 25% Just because I can't afford one it doesn't mean I can't be interested in it, even if "it's the first step to hell". I would like the Amiga to live it's Zombie life as long as it takes, and comeback one day with a bang...

04 March 2009, 20:55	#83
Skope Protracker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 8364 Posts: 381	If anything OS4 should be ported to Intel architecture and _not_ outdated and obscure hardware. I can't really follow the logic behind preferring PPC hardware when you can get multiple times the prestanda for half the price choosing Intel arch. Plus Intel family computers are way more common in households and I feel like more people would be inclined to buy and run OS4 if they already have the hardware it supports. I know I'm never ever gonna cough up hundreds of euros for dated technology (errr well it's not like PPC systems file under retro computing anyway).

04 March 2009, 21:36	#84
Madcrow Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 228	That's why something like a PS3 port would make the most sense. Given that Linux runs just fine on the PS3, and that Hyperion says they've got a non-public version AOS4 running on the PS3 as well, having a PS3 version seems like a no-brainer. Packaged with a few key programs like OWB, AmigaWriter (which works fine in emulation mode) and Art Effect 4 (ditto), the pacakage would outperform PS3 Linux, be easier to use and more useful. It would sell like crazy and Amiga would rise again as THE 3rd part OS for the PS3. But Amiga Inc is too scared to let Hyperion make the release. Heck, since AmigaOS is closed source, Sony might even grant the devs access to the 3D hardware, unlike the Linux devs who only get a virtualized 2D framebuffer to work with.

04 March 2009, 21:38	#85
Skope Protracker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 8364 Posts: 381	@Madcrow That's an even better idea.

04 March 2009, 22:28	#86
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 397	That's a pretty interesting idea actually... Amiga OS on a playstation. How many A500 Boing-balls do you wager a PS3 can display and render at the same time, lads?

05 March 2009, 02:40	#89
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	I keep laughing at this thread

05 March 2009, 21:33	#91
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	I generally think these kind of threads are useless or pointless, but as I've come to expect the general body of humanity insists on discussing these kind of topics. To me the Amiga is not classic retro or otherwise. I brought my Amiga in 1986 and have never stopped using AmigaOS since so for me at least the Amiga experience is current and continuing to evolve. I have a SAM now and running OS4.1 and things have never looked better... Amiga Inc or anyone else for that matter could simply disappear, it wouldn't make any damn difference except I'd have to make do with what I have and what I can acquire over the next 10-20 years from people selling there equipment, but since I have 55 Amiga Hardware Systems to date, I don't see myself running out of Anything Amiga for my lifetime at any rate, so my Amiga experience will always be current...

05 March 2009, 22:23	#92
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	Damn 55 Amiga systems??? You have me beat.

05 March 2009, 22:32	#94
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	@Slayer Got any CD32 FMV's? I need one of those.

06 March 2009, 13:22	#97
PWLM He found it at the zoo.. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Townsville / Australia Posts: 151	@paranoid: you hit the nail on the head on the first page: the fact that Cloanto holds the copyright to the ROMs has not stopped anyone from accessing them for free. Anyone trying to make money off the Amiga name these days is barking up the wrong tree. Young idiots who buy everything they know, don't know Amiga. And old idiots like me know better!

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