ZorRAM SDRAM Memory Card (www.amigakit.com)

amigakit.com · 21 March 2010, 10:39

AmigaKit.com is pleased to announce ZorRAM, a new modern memory card for Zorro 3 Amiga computers.

The new card will be supplied with 128MB of SDRAM memory as standard. It features a low profile Zorro card and has full Autoconfig support.

It will be available exclusively from the AmigaKit webstores within the next 6-8 weeks. Pricing will be announced shortly.

Project Development
During 2009, it became apparent that old Zorro 3 memory boards were scarce and consequently selling for over-inflated high prices in the second-user market. We approached our hardware partners E3B and Individual Computers with a brief to produce a modern day memory card for the A3000 / A4000 (T). After encountering many problems and employing E3B's expertise in the area of Zorro expansion development, the ZorRAM card was developed.

We would like to thank our hardware partners for the many months of development work put into this project.

www.amigakit.com Amiga Computer Store

Zetr0 · 21 March 2010, 19:03

*excited*

Zetr0 Counts the used Z3 ports in his A4000

OOoOoOOo =D

cv643d · 21 March 2010, 19:42

Great news!

amigakit.com · 21 March 2010, 19:48

@Zetro

Max your A4000 out :-) adding multiple cards will increase the memory to new RAM sizes not previously available on real Amiga Classic hardware.

cosmicfrog · 21 March 2010, 19:51

really hope this dos`t turn out to be very expensive

what will be the max number of ZorRAM cards you could fit in an A4000 and how much ram would that give you

I like zetro is running out of zorro slots so whats best way to get more ?

alexh · 21 March 2010, 19:51

X-Ray a few years ago discovered several problems when he tried to use 3+ DKB3128 cards. I hope these were limited to that card.

amigakit.com · 21 March 2010, 19:54

Price for 128MB version is tenatively priced at around £86 + VAT mark / US $135. All prices subject to currency fluctations.

We probably will offer an optional upgrade to 256MB per card - but will have to investigate cost of memory chips.

These prices will be far better than the crazy second hand prices of DKB3128 on Ebay.

Reynolds · 21 March 2010, 20:12

Rulez.
Hope it will flawlesslyy work in all of my A4000s... Have to get at least 1 or 2... and check how it performs under OS4...
BTW, if I have 5 free slots, I can use this in all? Holy ...!

alexh · 21 March 2010, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reynolds

check how it performs under OS4...

I imagine you'll be in for a wait (if ever) as the current OS4 for classic does not support Zorro RAM cards.

The total Zorro III address space is 1792 MB so I guess that is the hard limit.

Zetr0 · 21 March 2010, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigakit.com

Price for 128MB version is tenatively priced at around £86 + VAT mark / US $135. All prices subject to currency fluctations.

We probably will offer an optional upgrade to 256MB per card - but will have to investigate cost of memory chips.

These prices will be far better than the crazy second hand prices of DKB3128 on Ebay.

OOoOOoOOOOo I am liking what I am reading =D

better start saving some pocket money!!!!!

how long do i have before they are in stock??

amigakit.com · 21 March 2010, 20:51

Approximately 4-6 weeks.

Ratte · 21 March 2010, 22:33

@amigakit.com

I´d like to see a enhanced 512MB version ... "special edition" and high-priced ..

Calgor · 22 March 2010, 02:15

Yes I too would like to see a "special edition" $$$ 512MB version

Could a german speaker please translate the following from Jens from a1k.org

"Das ist überhaupt nicht abzusehen, weil diese Aufrüstung bei AmigaKit gemacht wird. Die Chips sind auf der Rückseite und werden in der regulären Serienproduktion nicht bestückt. Es ist also Handarbeit - so richtig billig kann's also nicht werden. Aber hey, 128MB sind für einen Amiga *fett* Speicher. Außerdem kann der Amiga aufgrund eines Bugs im OS nur maximal 512MB verwalten - dazu zählt dann alles Ram, auch Chipmem."

Does this mean the max combined is only 512MB for the whole amiga system (including chip mem) due to a bug in the amigaos, or just the maximum possible memory is 512MB per zorro3 slot?

Ratte · 22 March 2010, 12:44

Jens is talking about an (not existing) bug that is limiting the complete memory to 512MB including chipmem.
But that is wrong ... there are 1,7GB ZIII space and Autoconfig(expansion.library) on ZIII-HW "is" able to handle memexpansions up to 1gig and more.
(Can be proved with WinUAE and a lot of z3-mem)

cosmicfrog · 22 March 2010, 12:51

at nearly £100 I`m priced out of this

Calgor · 22 March 2010, 14:47

But why would Jens talk about a non-existing bug? Re WinUAE it could be that WinUAE has not yet emulated that bug (if it does indeed exist).

Well I suppose testing of the module will confirm how much is the real maximum.

There were instances of ppl with multiple DKB3128s not being able to see the full 128MB on all of them in certain situations. Hopefully this board does not have same probs. He ended up getting 512MB total.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=38986

I hope to get 2 * 256mb versions.

EDIT: It could of course be a bug in the DKB3128 instead in the above, not saying it is necessarily the amiga motherboard/os.

cosmicfrog · 22 March 2010, 15:14

lack of info saying max no of boards you can use and max amount of memory

would have thought this info would have been posted by now, oh well

lets hope if there is a bug it has an easy work round

mfletcher · 22 March 2010, 15:54

Why would classic Amiga owners need 128MB memory? My A4000 has an 060 with 128MB on it, but Ive never seen free memory deep below 100MB... would this upgrade only be of value if you're doing somekind of rendering or other memory intensive task? Or does it allow you to have a stonking great RAM Disk?

Toni Wilen · 22 March 2010, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratte

Jens is talking about an (not existing) bug that is limiting the complete memory to 512MB including chipmem.
But that is wrong ... there are 1,7GB ZIII space and Autoconfig(expansion.library) on ZIII-HW "is" able to handle memexpansions up to 1gig and more.
(Can be proved with WinUAE and a lot of z3-mem)

Z3 RAM working in WinUAE does not really prove anything because Z3 emulation has a hack that forces addresses from 0x01000000. (instead of whatever expansion.library decides, normally 0x40000000->)

alexh · 22 March 2010, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfletcher

Why would classic Amiga owners need 128MB memory?

The users of DKB3128 cards tended really to be A3000(T)/A4000(T) owners who still use the A3640 accelerator which has no RAM capability.

Presumably Amigakit couldn't make new accelerators but this was feasible.

21 March 2010, 10:39	#1
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,025	ZorRAM SDRAM Memory Card (www.amigakit.com) AmigaKit.com is pleased to announce ZorRAM, a new modern memory card for Zorro 3 Amiga computers. The new card will be supplied with 128MB of SDRAM memory as standard. It features a low profile Zorro card and has full Autoconfig support. It will be available exclusively from the AmigaKit webstores within the next 6-8 weeks. Pricing will be announced shortly. Project Development During 2009, it became apparent that old Zorro 3 memory boards were scarce and consequently selling for over-inflated high prices in the second-user market. We approached our hardware partners E3B and Individual Computers with a brief to produce a modern day memory card for the A3000 / A4000 (T). After encountering many problems and employing E3B's expertise in the area of Zorro expansion development, the ZorRAM card was developed. We would like to thank our hardware partners for the many months of development work put into this project. www.amigakit.com Amiga Computer Store Last edited by amigakit.com; 11 April 2010 at 21:18.

22 March 2010, 14:47	#16
Calgor (Amigas && Amigos)++ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 999	But why would Jens talk about a non-existing bug? Re WinUAE it could be that WinUAE has not yet emulated that bug (if it does indeed exist). Well I suppose testing of the module will confirm how much is the real maximum. There were instances of ppl with multiple DKB3128s not being able to see the full 128MB on all of them in certain situations. Hopefully this board does not have same probs. He ended up getting 512MB total. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=38986 I hope to get 2 * 256mb versions. EDIT: It could of course be a bug in the DKB3128 instead in the above, not saying it is necessarily the amiga motherboard/os. Last edited by Calgor; 22 March 2010 at 14:54.

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21 March 2010, 19:03	#2
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	excited Zetr0 Counts the used Z3 ports in his A4000 OOoOoOOo =D

21 March 2010, 19:42	#3
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Great news!

21 March 2010, 19:48	#4
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,025	@Zetro Max your A4000 out :-) adding multiple cards will increase the memory to new RAM sizes not previously available on real Amiga Classic hardware.

21 March 2010, 19:51	#5
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	really hope this dos`t turn out to be very expensive what will be the max number of ZorRAM cards you could fit in an A4000 and how much ram would that give you I like zetro is running out of zorro slots so whats best way to get more ?

21 March 2010, 19:51	#6
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	X-Ray a few years ago discovered several problems when he tried to use 3+ DKB3128 cards. I hope these were limited to that card.

21 March 2010, 19:54	#7
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,025	Price for 128MB version is tenatively priced at around £86 + VAT mark / US $135. All prices subject to currency fluctations. We probably will offer an optional upgrade to 256MB per card - but will have to investigate cost of memory chips. These prices will be far better than the crazy second hand prices of DKB3128 on Ebay.

21 March 2010, 20:12	#8
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 46 Posts: 1,096	Rulez. Hope it will flawlesslyy work in all of my A4000s... Have to get at least 1 or 2... and check how it performs under OS4... BTW, if I have 5 free slots, I can use this in all? Holy ...!

21 March 2010, 20:51	#11
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,025	Approximately 4-6 weeks.

21 March 2010, 22:33	#12
Ratte Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 331	@amigakit.com I´d like to see a enhanced 512MB version ... "special edition" and high-priced ..

22 March 2010, 02:15	#13
Calgor (Amigas && Amigos)++ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 999	Yes I too would like to see a "special edition" $$$ 512MB version Could a german speaker please translate the following from Jens from a1k.org "Das ist überhaupt nicht abzusehen, weil diese Aufrüstung bei AmigaKit gemacht wird. Die Chips sind auf der Rückseite und werden in der regulären Serienproduktion nicht bestückt. Es ist also Handarbeit - so richtig billig kann's also nicht werden. Aber hey, 128MB sind für einen Amiga fett Speicher. Außerdem kann der Amiga aufgrund eines Bugs im OS nur maximal 512MB verwalten - dazu zählt dann alles Ram, auch Chipmem." Does this mean the max combined is only 512MB for the whole amiga system (including chip mem) due to a bug in the amigaos, or just the maximum possible memory is 512MB per zorro3 slot?

22 March 2010, 12:44	#14
Ratte Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 331	Jens is talking about an (not existing) bug that is limiting the complete memory to 512MB including chipmem. But that is wrong ... there are 1,7GB ZIII space and Autoconfig(expansion.library) on ZIII-HW "is" able to handle memexpansions up to 1gig and more. (Can be proved with WinUAE and a lot of z3-mem)

22 March 2010, 12:51	#15
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	at nearly £100 I`m priced out of this

22 March 2010, 15:14	#17
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	lack of info saying max no of boards you can use and max amount of memory would have thought this info would have been posted by now, oh well lets hope if there is a bug it has an easy work round

22 March 2010, 15:54	#18
mfletcher Bawbag. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 375	Why would classic Amiga owners need 128MB memory? My A4000 has an 060 with 128MB on it, but Ive never seen free memory deep below 100MB... would this upgrade only be of value if you're doing somekind of rendering or other memory intensive task? Or does it allow you to have a stonking great RAM Disk?

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