WinUAE 4.10.0 RTG 1gb ram question

[White]

I saw that now it is possible to set 1gb of ram in uaegfx With the 68k I have not encountered any problems.



While with OS4 the defective board screen appears ("RED" screen at boot I was wondering if I'm doing something wrong or is this normal.

Also setting in "WinuAE ---> Hardware INFO" the various possible

combinations.


Is it not possible to use it with the 4.1FE ?

or there is a right combination to make it compatible between system RAM and RTG ram "uaegfx" ?



Thank you

[White]

screenshot:

also by selecting:
1gb of ram in a single bank
1gb of uaegfx

it happens the same
(OS4)

[White]

hardware info:

[thomas]

Remove the G-Rex, it occupies the entire address space required for Z3 RAM. The Hardware Info screenshot shows it.

[White]

@thomas

Thanks for the reply,

If I remove G-Rex the peripherals :
RTL 8029 PCI
ES 1370 PCI
they do not work and the boot is not completed in practice it does not start OS4

It is possible to have an example configuration with 1gb ram uaegfx.

Working with (OS4). ?

Even Mediator doesn't work it has the same problem as Boot I wanted to give it a try even if I prefer G-Rex.

Same thing even if i allocate z3 ram to a single address.

Thanks this would help me understand how to go about creating the right configuration.

[Toni Wilen]

Under OS 4.x, max total Z3 space is 1G (0x40000000-0x7fffffff). OS 4.x won't accept Z3 devices outside of official Z3 space.

Both Z3 RAM and RTG RAM must fit inside this space.

One possible option is to use PCI RTG (Virge or Voodoo 3) + G-REX. This configuration frees whole Z3 space for Z3 RAM.

[White]

@Toni
Thanks for the reply,
In summary 1gb of uaegfx cannot be used in OS4

At least I'm not wasting my time trying it out.

Thanks again for the answer :-)

And thanks for the latest version of WinUAE

[Toni Wilen]

If you really need to use uegfx (which isn't as good idea under OS4.x as it is under 68k OS due to required indirect trap calls), 8M Z2 RTG board would work

Voodoo 3 for example has enough VRAM for "modern" resolutions. Just don't enable composition.

[White]

@Tony,

Thank you.
Excuse me if I ask you,
but since i had tried voodoo 3 which was great
but had the problem for example with warp3d with transparencies this has been solved?
Sorry for the question, I haven't used Voodoo 3 anymore.

If it's fixed I redo a whole system based on Voodoo 3

Thank you.

[White]

@Toni

I found the old .hdf with voodoo 3

it seems that warp3d has the same problem but this is not important.
Now I reinstall everything from scratch.

However, it seems that the problem of moving windows and scrolling files is no longer a problem within the system and works fine.

that was the most important thing.

Because a lot of things worked very well, games, applications, etc. :-)

How nice it would be if WinUAE opened support for external plugins.

Vulkan ?

But I'm always glad that I can use WinUAE :-)

Toni, I also take this opportunity to wish you happy holidays.
Many beautiful things.

[Maijestro]

@White

Despite the moderate support of WinUae for AmigaOs4.1.I find that it really runs very well.

Many things work and are fast enough. I personally find the G-Rex/Voodoo configuration the fastest.

Maybe in the future there will be even better 3D support....we'll see what time brings.

I wish you all a Merry Christmas.

Many thanks for the development of WinUae Toni

[White]

@Maijestro

I agree,
The weak part is the emulation of a graphics card suitable for 4.1
which makes it particularly fast is compatible with other functions.
Difficult thing to implement I guess.

The qemu engine for WinUAE actually works fine although it could be improved, but it works.

But the real turning point would be the support for graphics acceleration.
But like I said it's the hardest part for Toni. (Such a pity).
Certainly it is not easy to emulate a graphics card like ATI and it is understandable.

My point of view would be the inclusion of external Plugins but this would probably not respect what is the basic philosophy of WinUAE (which I respect).

But it is clear that attempts could be made at least to see what happens.
On the other hand already today winUAE does not emulate a real Amiga machine see JIT etc.
while remaining in its initial philosophy no one uses WinUAE as if it were real hardware obviously everyone inserts the speeds that can be adopted to make AmigaOS as fast as possible compared to the real real machine.

Here you can see AmigaOS 4.1 FE (WinUAE)
Which manages to handle two videos at the same time on Youtube
without the slightest effort.

[ Show youtube player ]

OR

[ Show youtube player ]

Thanks to external programs,

If you try to do it with the current emulation it's impossible to do.

What I'd like to know is whether such a solution regarding "plugins" would be possible in the future.

[mcgeezer]

Could someone please confirm Hybris looks ok when they use this latest version of WinUAE, it did not look well for me but it could be a problem on my side of things...?

[Maijestro]

Originally Posted by White

@Maijestro

I agree,
The weak part is the emulation of a graphics card suitable for 4.1
which makes it particularly fast is compatible with other functions.
Difficult thing to implement I guess.

The qemu engine for WinUAE actually works fine although it could be improved, but it works.

But the real turning point would be the support for graphics acceleration.
But like I said it's the hardest part for Toni. (Such a pity).
Certainly it is not easy to emulate a graphics card like ATI and it is understandable.

My point of view would be the inclusion of external Plugins but this would probably not respect what is the basic philosophy of WinUAE (which I respect).

But it is clear that attempts could be made at least to see what happens.
On the other hand already today winUAE does not emulate a real Amiga machine see JIT etc.
while remaining in its initial philosophy no one uses WinUAE as if it were real hardware obviously everyone inserts the speeds that can be adopted to make AmigaOS as fast as possible compared to the real real machine.

Here you can see AmigaOS 4.1 FE (WinUAE)
Which manages to handle two videos at the same time on Youtube
without the slightest effort.

[ Show youtube player ]

OR

[ Show youtube player ]

Thanks to external programs,

If you try to do it with the current emulation it's impossible to do.

What I'd like to know is whether such a solution regarding "plugins" would be possible in the future.

@White

It looks good...

How did they do that ? I can't even get YouTube to work with odyssey.

Could they explain the steps ? I will test it on my machine ;-)

[White]

@Maijestro

The program is this:
https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice
https://github.com/ttalvitie/browser...s/tag/v0.9.6.1

here you can find more details:
https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=112498

You can also browse sites like Amazon is everything else:
HTML5 is implemented

You need to get some experience with it if you're interested

unpack the program where you prefer, it does not require installation
exists for linux and windows

is create a .bat file for example like this:
cmd /c "start /High C:\browservice\browservice\browservice.exe --vice-opt-http-listen-addr=192.168.1.83:8080 --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows Phone 10.0; Android 4.2.1; NOKIA; Lumia 520) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Mobile Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0"

You can change your user-agent to whatever you like
it depends how you want to navigate.

In itself what you are seeing in the videos are a sequence of frames in "PNG" for example processed at a high speed which then make the video you see.

Once done, if you need more information, just ask.

Requires no proxy, works even on 68k old version OWB systems.

I have yet to try it with voodoo 3

here an example on 68k with HTML5 supported is watching in Youtube video:
[ Show youtube player ]

Here instead if you want to have an idea on how the program works in more detail, it is better to understand how it works:
[ Show youtube player ]

[Maijestro]

Originally Posted by White

@Maijestro

The program is this:
https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice
https://github.com/ttalvitie/browser...s/tag/v0.9.6.1

here you can find more details:
https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=112498

You can also browse sites like Amazon is everything else:
HTML5 is implemented

You need to get some experience with it if you're interested

unpack the program where you prefer, it does not require installation
exists for linux and windows

is create a .bat file for example like this:
cmd /c "start /High C:\browservice\browservice\browservice.exe --vice-opt-http-listen-addr=192.168.1.83:8080 --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows Phone 10.0; Android 4.2.1; NOKIA; Lumia 520) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Mobile Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0"

You can change your user-agent to whatever you like
it depends how you want to navigate.

In itself what you are seeing in the videos are a sequence of frames in "PNG" for example processed at a high speed which then make the video you see.

Once done, if you need more information, just ask.

Requires no proxy, works even on 68k old version OWB systems.

I have yet to try it with voodoo 3

here an example on 68k with HTML5 supported is watching in Youtube video:
[ Show youtube player ]

Here instead if you want to have an idea on how the program works in more detail, it is better to understand how it works:
[ Show youtube player ]

@White

Thanks for the tutorial.

Nevertheless, I think that it will not be quite so easy possible with me. I use WinUae via Crossover on my Mac Studio to emulate AmigaOs 4.1.

It's still nice to see that Youtube works under AmigaOs4.1. It doesn't seem to be possible for me unfortunately.

[White]

@Maijestro
I don't know mac as a real machine, even if I emulate it with "Hackintosh", but without going into depth.

I guess it is possible to create a virtual machine with
"Parallels" for example. (to make a machine for browservice)
But it's just an idea

[Maijestro]

Originally Posted by White

@Maijestro
I don't know mac as a real machine, even if I emulate it with "Hackintosh", but without going into depth.

I guess it is possible to create a virtual machine with
"Parallels" for example. (to make a machine for browservice)
But it's just an idea

@White

I own Parallels and use Windows 11 (ARM version) over it.

WinUae is not compatible with Windows for ARM architectures. AmigaOs4.1 does not boot anymore...I think it is the PPC Qemu plugin that does not run under ARM Windows anymore.

Virtualizing Intel Windows would be too slow for me as my Mac Studio itself has an ARM CPU and would lose too much speed.

It's still amazing that no one has integrated this into WinUae yet.

[White]

@Maijestro
Or without using Browservice,
You can use YT.rexx or Aiostreams which work really well.
Written for OS 4.1
you can find them on OSDepot
you can also watch streams on TwichTV

they work great.

I'm always looking for something new for 4.1 (pure curiosity)

otherwise YT.rex and Aiostreams are perfect.

[Maijestro]

Originally Posted by White

@Maijestro
Or without using Browservice,
You can use YT.rexx or Aiostreams which work really well.
Written for OS 4.1
you can find them on OSDepot
you can also watch streams on TwichTV

they work great.

I'm always looking for something new for 4.1 (pure curiosity)

otherwise YT.rex and Aiostreams are perfect.

I will try it out right away.

I am also trying out all sorts of things under AmigaOs4.1 and also where WinUae currently has its limits.

I am an emulator freak, but I love AmigaOs4.1, I used to have an Amiga1200 and AmigaOne myself.

Toni should develop 2 WinUae in parallel WinUaeClassic and WinUaeNG then also the power users would have more fun as they have now. :-D