what game suffered greatly due to lack of install option?

donnie · 30 March 2012, 16:46

These days there is whd load.

but back then. there was no such thing. Most people did not have hdds. Neither did i. I could not bare the disc swapping on many of these adventure games. But when i look now at hol and such i see a great amount of games actually support hdd intalls. Like monkey island or beneth a steel sky. I makes me whish i had an hdd as a kid.

anyways

Was there any major title with lots of disc that did not support hdd install?

dlfrsilver · 30 March 2012, 17:31

some games like the ready soft ones like wrath of the demon, space ace, sword of sodan, all the games using crap slow track loaders, and the game with more than 2 disks.

donnie · 30 March 2012, 17:35

well i think those games have more problems than just the loading/swapping! hehe.

s2325 · 30 March 2012, 17:44

Bump 'n' Burn ECS was great fun for me but I think more time was wasted for disk swapping and loading than playing game.

donnie · 30 March 2012, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

Bump 'n' Burn ECS was great fun for me but I think more time was wasted for disk swapping and loading than playing game.

never played that game.

made in 1994 on 6 discs. I wonder what they where thinking.

robinsonb5 · 30 March 2012, 19:17

Stardust - great game but the loading times were just insane.

h0ffman · 30 March 2012, 19:39

I thought startdust had an installer?? Super Stardust Definitely did.

The cracked version of X-out was completely unbearable! They seriously screwed up the loading times. The only thing that made it worth while was the awesome loading music

jimbob · 30 March 2012, 20:01

Space Hulk, only 3 floppies but soooo much changing and loooonngg level loading. Might've been better with >1Mb.

Nice loading music in this one also though.

Desert Strike was the same story. At least the levels had quite a long play time.

Seem to recall that cannon fodder was much better in this regard.

Thank the lord for WHDload

Galahad/FLT · 30 March 2012, 20:08

Overdrive was bad, Striker the Crystal crack was diabolical, and as Hoffman said, X-Out by Paranoimia was crap, because of the way it was cracked, lots and lots of small files.

BigHyorgi · 30 March 2012, 20:13

Mortal Kombat. I vaguely remember that it would take maybe 2 minutes to load the next match. Can't remember if it supported 2 drives. We were showing it to a non gamer friend one night, and we were a little embarrassed that it took so long to load. Nonetheless, we were up 'til 4 AM playing it, it was that good.

s2325 · 30 March 2012, 20:22

If I remember correctly if your Amiga have 2MB of chip RAM Mortal Kombat loading is longer but less frequent.

CodyJarrett · 30 March 2012, 20:28

Heimdall

BigHyorgi · 30 March 2012, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

If I remember correctly if your Amiga have 2MB of chip RAM Mortal Kombat loading is longer but less frequent.

We both had 1200s at the time. No hard drives. So it would have been way more tortuous playing on a 500, eh? I remember we had a lot of time to trash talk each other between matches.

musashi5150 · 30 March 2012, 21:43

Darkmere seems to take an age to load. Last time I played it I could feel myself getting older - especially as I died quite quickly after all that disk accessing

Harry · 30 March 2012, 21:47

Gauntlet 3 has each of its world split in 5 areas where you can walk freely at will, which results that you walk a half minute to its boundary, then it loads 50 seconds - so its more loading than playing.
Projectyle has nice gimmicks like show face of goal scorer, but these gimmicks take forever to load. So also a one disked game can be affected.
The Humans make a disk jockey out of the player. I ended using my third, 5.25", drive to avoid the swapping.
Of course, I installed all titles for which this was possible to my 120 MB hd for playing.

donnie · 31 March 2012, 09:03

sometimes i wonder what they where thinking.

if i made a game for the amiga, floppy management would be an absolute key factor to my game design. it would be made ground up for floppy use.

mikele · 02 April 2012, 12:12

Darkmere, what a beautiful game with those detailed graphics, but loading times and disk swapping was real pain in the neck

S0ulA55a551n · 02 April 2012, 18:22

Streetfighter was a nightmare.

Had to swap disks for each fight.

I had HDD back in the day. Was 326mb HDD cost me £300 second hand lol

Gunbot · 04 April 2012, 07:30

The decrunching during Walker used to irritate me for whatever reason. Looking back, I guess it wasn't actually that bad though.

Christian · 05 April 2012, 15:45

Yeah Overdrive is one that springs to mind for me too.

Also Wizkid used to take ages to load, although to be fair it could have been my (ahem) copy.

30 March 2012, 16:46	#1
donnie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: sthlm Posts: 226	what game suffered greatly due to lack of install option? These days there is whd load. but back then. there was no such thing. Most people did not have hdds. Neither did i. I could not bare the disc swapping on many of these adventure games. But when i look now at hol and such i see a great amount of games actually support hdd intalls. Like monkey island or beneth a steel sky. I makes me whish i had an hdd as a kid. anyways Was there any major title with lots of disc that did not support hdd install?

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30 March 2012, 17:31	#2
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	some games like the ready soft ones like wrath of the demon, space ace, sword of sodan, all the games using crap slow track loaders, and the game with more than 2 disks.

30 March 2012, 17:35	#3
donnie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: sthlm Posts: 226	well i think those games have more problems than just the loading/swapping! hehe.

30 March 2012, 17:44	#4
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Bump 'n' Burn ECS was great fun for me but I think more time was wasted for disk swapping and loading than playing game.

30 March 2012, 19:17	#6
robinsonb5 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 1,153	Stardust - great game but the loading times were just insane.

30 March 2012, 19:39	#7
h0ffman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salisbury Posts: 744	I thought startdust had an installer?? Super Stardust Definitely did. The cracked version of X-out was completely unbearable! They seriously screwed up the loading times. The only thing that made it worth while was the awesome loading music

30 March 2012, 20:01	#8
jimbob Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kilmacolm Age: 45 Posts: 632	Space Hulk, only 3 floppies but soooo much changing and loooonngg level loading. Might've been better with >1Mb. Nice loading music in this one also though. Desert Strike was the same story. At least the levels had quite a long play time. Seem to recall that cannon fodder was much better in this regard. Thank the lord for WHDload

30 March 2012, 20:08	#9
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,987	Overdrive was bad, Striker the Crystal crack was diabolical, and as Hoffman said, X-Out by Paranoimia was crap, because of the way it was cracked, lots and lots of small files.

30 March 2012, 20:13	#10
BigHyorgi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: ottawa canada Posts: 34	Mortal Kombat. I vaguely remember that it would take maybe 2 minutes to load the next match. Can't remember if it supported 2 drives. We were showing it to a non gamer friend one night, and we were a little embarrassed that it took so long to load. Nonetheless, we were up 'til 4 AM playing it, it was that good.

30 March 2012, 20:22	#11
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	If I remember correctly if your Amiga have 2MB of chip RAM Mortal Kombat loading is longer but less frequent.

30 March 2012, 20:28	#12
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Heimdall

30 March 2012, 21:43	#14
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	Darkmere seems to take an age to load. Last time I played it I could feel myself getting older - especially as I died quite quickly after all that disk accessing

30 March 2012, 21:47	#15
Harry HD Installer Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hamburg/Germany Posts: 1,068	Gauntlet 3 has each of its world split in 5 areas where you can walk freely at will, which results that you walk a half minute to its boundary, then it loads 50 seconds - so its more loading than playing. Projectyle has nice gimmicks like show face of goal scorer, but these gimmicks take forever to load. So also a one disked game can be affected. The Humans make a disk jockey out of the player. I ended using my third, 5.25", drive to avoid the swapping. Of course, I installed all titles for which this was possible to my 120 MB hd for playing.

31 March 2012, 09:03	#16
donnie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: sthlm Posts: 226	sometimes i wonder what they where thinking. if i made a game for the amiga, floppy management would be an absolute key factor to my game design. it would be made ground up for floppy use.

02 April 2012, 12:12	#17
mikele Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: poland Posts: 307	Darkmere, what a beautiful game with those detailed graphics, but loading times and disk swapping was real pain in the neck

02 April 2012, 18:22	#18
S0ulA55a551n Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Wales Age: 46 Posts: 935	Streetfighter was a nightmare. Had to swap disks for each fight. I had HDD back in the day. Was 326mb HDD cost me £300 second hand lol

04 April 2012, 07:30	#19
Gunbot Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 66	The decrunching during Walker used to irritate me for whatever reason. Looking back, I guess it wasn't actually that bad though.

05 April 2012, 15:45	#20
Christian Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gloucestershire Age: 51 Posts: 218	Yeah Overdrive is one that springs to mind for me too. Also Wizkid used to take ages to load, although to be fair it could have been my (ahem) copy.

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