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Old 29 December 2023, 13:18   #41
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however, with AHI 4.18 the game window freeze before start the race. in WinUAE i notice that only 4.18 is very good. Other version i have had problems, but maybe Wipeout require recent AHI version.
I use AHI 4.18 on WinUAE and all my desktop Amiga.
Never a problem.
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Old 29 December 2023, 13:49   #42
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I use AHI 4.18 on WinUAE and all my desktop Amiga.
Never a problem.
sorry, my fault. AHI working good, but i run the game from a front-end and WipeOUT is the only game that make this issue.
Running the game standalone from WinUAE no problem both Quartex both Wapz3D.
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Old 30 December 2023, 11:16   #43
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There is something very evolved in Wazp3D that I call "StateTracker": his goal is to store all the triangles that are drawn the same way in a single call to the hardware
Algorithm is something like : whenever "states" (blending,textures,zmode,etc...) dont change then just stock the triangles then when something change draw all in a single pass (so perhaps thousands of triangles in one pass)

This improve drastically the speed of old programs that draw triangle after triangle (and dont use the recent fast functions like drawarray drawelements intended to draw arrays of triangles) because it call the fast hardware less often

Buuut Wipeout perhaps "break" the StateTracker one way or another

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Old 30 December 2023, 14:59   #44
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ixemul v63.1 (2010)
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ami....library/63.1/

StormMesa HW (2013)
http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/StormMesa2010
StormMesa SW (1999)
http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/StormMesa_Libs68K

Warp3d v4.2a (2002)
http://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Warp3D-4.2a
Warp3d v4.3 beta patch (2014)
https://warpclassic68k.blogspot.com/p/dl_30.html

Wazp3d beta 56 (2014)
http://aminet.net/package/driver/video/Wazp3D
Wazp3d beta 56 patch Cosmos (Wazp3d / Wazp3dUAE / Soft3d) (2020-2023)
https://warpclassic68k.blogspot.com/p/dl_30.html

Warp3d Quarktex WinUAE (2006)
https://aminet.net/package/driver/video/QuarkTex

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Old 30 December 2023, 15:05   #45
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On OS3 now with the latest update it works perfectly in fullscreen even in Voodoo emulation


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Old 30 December 2023, 16:53   #46
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Where is this latest update ?
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Where is this latest update ?

https://www.ppa.pl/forum/strefa-gier...-68k/3#m804055
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Old 30 December 2023, 17:03   #48
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Where is this latest update ?

Here http://netsurf.baderman.net/wipegame-opt
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Old 30 December 2023, 17:08   #49
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On OS3 now with the latest update it works perfectly in fullscreen even in Voodoo emulation

This looks like Quartex hardware render, not Voodoo3.
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I installed this on my OS 3.1, 3.9 and AFA OS:

- WinUAE 5.1
- Voodoo Emulation (Screenmode Workbench Voodoo 1024x768 32Bit)
- Warp3D.library, pci.library (Mediator)
- agl.library (QuarkTex)
- agle.library, aglsmap.library, aglu.library, aglut.library (Wazp3D)

Did I do something wrong?
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Old 30 December 2023, 19:21   #51
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Yes, that's Quartex like arti said (can be detected from render/colors on picture).

Warp3D_for_Mediators.lha

HW render:
StormMesa2010.lha

SW render:
StormMesa_Libs68K.lha

QuarkTex or Wazp3D are not involved on this. Use them with UAEGFX-driver.
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Old 30 December 2023, 19:37   #52
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I used Warp3D_for_Mediators !

I know it works well with UAEGFX !

In this Case my Workbench has a Voodoo3 Resolution, and theoretically could not run games in other video resolutions if they are not set to WinUAE or am I wrong ?

QuarkTex or Wazp3D are involved, otherwise Voodoo mode would not work!
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Quartex takes over your install and it should not be involved in this.

StormMesa2010 HW render works also with real Amiga by using GPU. That you want to emulate now.
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On WinUAE 5.1, currently without QuarkTex or Wazp3D libraries, WipeOut cannot be run on a Voodoo system.

That is why I used the libraries mentioned above!
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I can run Wipeout from the very same CF-card in the real Mediator/Voodoo3 and WinUAE51/Voodoo3. There is no QuarkTex or Wazp3D at all in this CF-card.
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OK thank you, I have done some new tests, now without QuarkTex or Wazp3D it works, in Window mode the game is slow (I am using an old DualCore PC), in full screen I first have a grey screen and then slowly the graphics come in (not perfect).
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Old 30 December 2023, 21:09   #57
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I installed this on my OS 3.1, 3.9 and AFA OS:

- WinUAE 5.1
- Voodoo Emulation (Screenmode Workbench Voodoo 1024x768 32Bit)
- Warp3D.library, pci.library (Mediator)
- agl.library (QuarkTex)
- agle.library, aglsmap.library, aglu.library, aglut.library (Wazp3D)

Did I do something wrong?
with this setting, i have "Ramlib error" and "guru 8000000A"

these pictures are taken from Wipeout with Voodoo3 config and less than 1 fps:


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OK thank you, I have done some new tests, now without QuarkTex or Wazp3D it works, in Window mode the game is slow (I am using an old DualCore PC), in full screen I first have a grey screen and then slowly the graphics come in (not perfect).
Nice that you got it right. Yes, it's slow. Arti is working with it. Goal is making it better on real Mediator/Voodoo3 and test corresponding setup on WinUAE.
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with this setting, i have "Ramlib error" and "guru 8000000A"
I think you have not configured WinUAE properly, or it may depend on your OS.
I use that configuration with OS 3.1, 3.2, 3.9BB4, AfA One and have no guru.

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these pictures are taken from Wipeout with Voodoo3 config and less than 1 fps:
Yes the Voodoo3 mode is slow and the graphics and does not have proper focus
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Nice that you got it right. Yes, it's slow. Arti is working with it. Goal is making it better on real Mediator/Voodoo3 and test corresponding setup on WinUAE.

I got bogged down because initially I would get a grey screen and restart the system, when all I had to do was wait
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