WB 3.1.4 & Buddha IDE - CDRom intermittent issues

[ProfPlum]

My issue is the following:

I installed WB 3.1.4 and have my IDE CD-Rom up and running using the supplied example mountlist entry for CD0 (uses AmiCDFS). The only exception being my device is buddhasci.device (I'm on an A2000 with a Buddha controller)


The CD-Rom is sometimes mounted on powerup/startup and sometimes not. Basically, behavior is intermittent. Frankly, it's a bit annoying.

Any suggestions as to what I can do to resolve this issue?
Perhaps some of the 'control' elements in the mount entry can be of help?

Any help is appreciated.

[Picklepie]

I have the same setup but have not run into this issue. Did you install the CD software after installing the OS? IF I remember correctly, the Buddha software places a folder in one of the drives and you can install it from there.

[ProfPlum]

Originally Posted by Picklepie

I have the same setup but have not run into this issue. Did you install the CD software after installing the OS? IF I remember correctly, the Buddha software places a folder in one of the drives and you can install it from there.

I did not. Although, I did prior to my 3.1.4 install (I installed over a 3.1 setup).
The Buddha software uses CacheCDFS which doesn't seem relevant since 3.1.4 contains its own CD file system.

[johnnybarker]

I also have a CDROM on a buddha with OS3.1.4 on my a1200 tower. Pretty sure I also just installed the idefix + cache file system software that came with the buddha and it worked straight away with harming anything else in the system. I would make a back up and give it a try.

[ProfPlum]

Originally Posted by johnnybarker

I also have a CDROM on a buddha with OS3.1.4 on my a1200 tower. Pretty sure I also just installed the idefix + cache file system software that came with the buddha and it worked straight away with harming anything else in the system. I would make a back up and give it a try.

Looks like this is my weekend job. I'll give it a go.

[Picklepie]

Here is my Mountlist, maybe it will help you make yours work.

/***************************************************************/
/* CacheCDFS mountlist entry © 1993 Elaborate Bytes, O. Kastl */
/***************************************************************/
FileSystem = L:CacheCDFS /* The name of the game */
Device = "buddha_atapi.device" /* Name of exec device driver */
Unit = 4 /* exec device unit */
Flags = 0 /* OpenDevice flags */
BlocksPerTrack = 351000 /* Unused */
BlockSize = 2048 /* True, but unused */
Mask = 0x7ffffffe /* Memory mask for direct read */
MaxTransfer = 0x1000000 /* Maximum amount of bytes for direct read */
Reserved = 0 /* Unused */
Interleave = 0 /* Unused */
LowCyl = 0 /* Unused */
HighCyl = 0 /* Unused */
Surfaces = 1 /* Unused */
Buffers = 50 /* Number of cache lines */
BufMemType = 1 /* MEMF_PUBLIC */
GlobVec = -1 /* Do not change! */
Mount = 1 /* Mount it immediately */
Priority = 10 /* Priority of FileSystem task */
DosType = 0x43443031 /* Currently unused */
StackSize = 3000 /* Minimum stack required is 3000! */
Control = "MD=0 LC=1 DC=8 L LV AL LFC=1"
/* The Control field is for special adjustments */
/* L/S convert all file/volume names to lowercase */
/* LV/S convert volume names to lowercase */
/* AL/S Auto-Lower converts only non-Amiga CDs */
/* LFC/N start converting at this character */
/* LC/N/A number of blocks per cache line */
/* DC/N/A number of cache lines for the data cache */
/* MD/N/A number of blocks, when starting direct read, not using */
/* the cache. 0 will be a reasonable default (LC*DC+1) */
/* S/S Do SCSI direct commands, no Trackdisk like commands! */
/* NC/S Do NOT use TD_ADDCHANGEINT, poll for DiskChange! */
/* M/S Issue a TD_MOTOR (OFF) command after read */

[ProfPlum]

Originally Posted by Picklepie

Here is my Mountlist, maybe it will help you make yours work.

/***************************************************************/
/* CacheCDFS mountlist entry © 1993 Elaborate Bytes, O. Kastl */
/***************************************************************/
FileSystem = L:CacheCDFS /* The name of the game */
Device = "buddha_atapi.device" /* Name of exec device driver */
Unit = 4 /* exec device unit */
Flags = 0 /* OpenDevice flags */
BlocksPerTrack = 351000 /* Unused */
BlockSize = 2048 /* True, but unused */
Mask = 0x7ffffffe /* Memory mask for direct read */
MaxTransfer = 0x1000000 /* Maximum amount of bytes for direct read */
Reserved = 0 /* Unused */
Interleave = 0 /* Unused */
LowCyl = 0 /* Unused */
HighCyl = 0 /* Unused */
Surfaces = 1 /* Unused */
Buffers = 50 /* Number of cache lines */
BufMemType = 1 /* MEMF_PUBLIC */
GlobVec = -1 /* Do not change! */
Mount = 1 /* Mount it immediately */
Priority = 10 /* Priority of FileSystem task */
DosType = 0x43443031 /* Currently unused */
StackSize = 3000 /* Minimum stack required is 3000! */
Control = "MD=0 LC=1 DC=8 L LV AL LFC=1"
/* The Control field is for special adjustments */
/* L/S convert all file/volume names to lowercase */
/* LV/S convert volume names to lowercase */
/* AL/S Auto-Lower converts only non-Amiga CDs */
/* LFC/N start converting at this character */
/* LC/N/A number of blocks per cache line */
/* DC/N/A number of cache lines for the data cache */
/* MD/N/A number of blocks, when starting direct read, not using */
/* the cache. 0 will be a reasonable default (LC*DC+1) */
/* S/S Do SCSI direct commands, no Trackdisk like commands! */
/* NC/S Do NOT use TD_ADDCHANGEINT, poll for DiskChange! */
/* M/S Issue a TD_MOTOR (OFF) command after read */

Thank-you. I will compare against what I have.

Note: I have a Buddha 20th edition version hence the device is buddhascsi.device.



What I just did this evening is swap the IDE ports. I connected the CDRom drive to the northern IDE port. The unit number changed from 0 to 2.
I rebooted several times. No issues. Everything looks ok so far.
Hmnnn, quite odd.

[Picklepie]

I have the 20th anniversary edition also. Maybe different because i am using an IDE and you a SCSI?

[Picklepie]

Sorry, I see you stated "IDE", but if it's working then congrats!

[ProfPlum]

I did more experimenting...

When the unit/device of the CDRom is 0 - which depends on the IDE port the CDRom is connected to and master/slave setting of the unit, this problem arises. Otherwise, all is ok. This may be an OS issue.

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by ProfPlum

This may be an OS issue.

No, it is not. The Buddha 20th edition does work with it.
It is something that happens specifically on your end.

I suggest you try eliminating variables to determine the source of the conflict.

[ProfPlum]

Originally Posted by gulliver

No, it is not. The Buddha 20th edition does work with it.
It is something that happens specifically on your end.

I suggest you try eliminating variables to determine the source of the conflict.

Gulliver,

I spoke with Jens from IC (Buddha creator). He told me that the expectation is that the CDRom should be set as slave. Maybe this has something to do with it. I'm not sure. But all is fine at my end so I'm good

[gulliver]

Have you tried getting rid of the IDEFix crap?

A possible solution involves downloading "AtapiMagic" from:

https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?ac....0;attach=1847

Unarchive it, and place it in LIBS:modules. To be able to use it, just
open your Startup-sequence with a text editor where you will find:

If Exists C:LoadModule
   C:Version exec.library version 46 >NIL:
   If Warn
      C:LoadModule ROMUPDATE
   EndIf
EndIf

Just modify those six lines with the following ones:

If Exists C:LoadModule
   C:Version exec.library version 46 >NIL:
   If Warn
      C:LoadModule LIBS:modules/AtapiMagic ROMUPDATE
   Else
      C:LoadModule LIBS:modules/AtapiMagic
   EndIf
EndIf

Save the Startup-Sequence and reboot your machine for the changes to take effect.

[ProfPlum]

Originally Posted by gulliver

Have you tried getting rid of the IDEFix crap?

A possible solution involves downloading "AtapiMagic" from:

https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?ac....0;attach=1847

Unarchive it, and place it in LIBS:modules. To be able to use it, just
open your Startup-sequence with a text editor where you will find:

If Exists C:LoadModule
   C:Version exec.library version 47 >NIL:
   If Warn
      C:LoadModule ROMUPDATE
   EndIf
EndIf

Just modify those six lines with the following ones:

If Exists C:LoadModule
   C:Version exec.library version 47 >NIL:
   If Warn
      C:LoadModule LIBS:modules/AtapiMagic ROMUPDATE
   Else
      C:LoadModule LIBS:modules/AtapiMagic
   EndIf
EndIf

Save the Startup-Sequence and reboot your machine for the changes to take effect.

What do you mean by 'IDEFix crap' ?

Thank-you for this AtapiMagic stuff.

It's not a big concern to me at the moment since my system is fine as is.
I will look at this most likely on the weekend. I am currently dead tired after work.

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by ProfPlum

What do you mean by 'IDEFix crap' ?

Earlier versions of the CacheCDFS that came with some Individual Computers products also brought along the IDEFix97 software. That software was a major hack/patch that enabled under some circumstances the use of 4 way IDE interfaces on Amigas. And as most hacks, they are not 100% stable and reliable.