English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Support > support.Games

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 18 February 2015, 19:43   #1
Steve T
Registered User

Steve T's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: UK
Age: 38
Posts: 349
F117A - Great game, weird things.

I used to play this a lot on a stock 1200 with a digital joystick, such a great, really atmospheric and unusual flight sim, its great but I have a couple of problems with it.

I'm having issues with the audio - the engine noise seems to cut off when i bank right, and there's very little other audio present.

Maybe its just how the sim works, but the aircraft really drifts, i feel like I'm flying sideways almost at times, is just just a crosswind simulation - there's some nice turbulence modelling at low alt that i don't remember from 20 years ago - but no surprises there.

Anyway I'm really curious if anyone else has this audio problem, I'm sure there used to be more background 'chatter' too, of electronics etc.

(btw I'm playing a cracked version today on an expanded 030, its not silky smooth, but its pretty good, and especially using an analogue joystick

Finally Does anyone know where I could get an un-cracked copy? Thinking this might be the cause of the issues, I long ago lost the box and manual but I'm enough of an aircraft geek i really don't need the manual to tell what aircraft silhouette I'm looking at
Steve T is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
Old 18 February 2015, 23:05   #2
BarryB
Amigaholic

 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 2,516
In the Zone! You can get the copy protection sheets from HOL!
BarryB is offline  
Old 23 February 2015, 15:32   #3
Steve T
Registered User

Steve T's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: UK
Age: 38
Posts: 349
Hey thanks Barry, appreciate it

Wish i still had my old boxed copy, the documentation was great and really detailed.
Steve T is offline  
Old 23 February 2015, 16:21   #4
Galahad/FLT
Going nowhere

Galahad/FLT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44
Posts: 6,729
There are no copy protection side effects...... i should know
Galahad/FLT is offline  
Old 24 February 2015, 00:02   #5
lesta_smsc
Registered User

lesta_smsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,223
Without copy protection would this be the IPF format?... as my understanding, likely incorrect, is that ADFs were generally the cracked versions. If IPF, I presume the only way to write back would be to use Catweasel or Kryoflux?
lesta_smsc is offline  
Old 24 February 2015, 00:15   #6
Arnie
R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16

Arnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Leicester/UK
Age: 59
Posts: 3,861
Not all IPF's have a custom bootloader. In the case of F117a the copy protection is the manual. For instance, you could use WinUAE to copy the IPF to ADF, then transfer the ADF to the Amiga and copy the ADF to a real disk.
Arnie is offline  
Old 24 February 2015, 00:31   #7
lesta_smsc
Registered User

lesta_smsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,223
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnie View Post
Not all IPF's have a custom bootloader. In the case of F117a the copy protection is the manual. For instance, you could use WinUAE to copy the IPF to ADF, then transfer the ADF to the Amiga and copy the ADF to a real disk.
I thought that was not possible because of dense copy protections that might be affected when converting between formats (to my recollection, the RAW format is the intermediary)?
lesta_smsc is offline  
Old 24 February 2015, 00:58   #8
Arnie
R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16

Arnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Leicester/UK
Age: 59
Posts: 3,861
F117a isn't copylocked, padlocked or dreadlocked, It's just a dos copy. If it had some kind of copy protection then, yes, you would be right.

F117a even allows you to make copies of the disk from a utility on disk 1.
Arnie is offline  
Old 24 February 2015, 01:02   #9
lesta_smsc
Registered User

lesta_smsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,223
Lol... shows they wanted distribution of the game! Why was it cracked if no protection lol.
lesta_smsc is offline  
Old 24 February 2015, 01:07   #10
Arnie
R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16

Arnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Leicester/UK
Age: 59
Posts: 3,861
Probably to add a trainer or cheat or just to remove the Game manual protection.
Arnie is offline  
Old 24 February 2015, 01:24   #11
StingRay
move.l #$c0ff33,throat

StingRay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Berlin/Joymoney
Posts: 5,684
Quote:
Originally Posted by lesta_smsc View Post
Why was it cracked if no protection lol.
There was no disk protection i.e. disks can be copied without problem. The game has a manual check which was cracked.
StingRay is online now  
Old 24 February 2015, 02:30   #12
Steve T
Registered User

Steve T's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: UK
Age: 38
Posts: 349
Its meant to be run from HDD by design, though I used to play it from floppy just fine when my old zappodrive thing was playing up... I think you were encouraged to make backups, good ol' Microprose.

The manual protection is also *very* simple in this case, just choose one from a handful of easy to recognise aircraft, it's almost like they knew there was no point in punishing their customers. So I'd prefer the un-cracked version even if it fixes none of the issues
Steve T is offline  
Old 24 February 2015, 23:20   #13
lesta_smsc
Registered User

lesta_smsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,223
Quote:
Originally Posted by StingRay View Post
There was no disk protection i.e. disks can be copied without problem. The game has a manual check which was cracked.
Ah... makes sense. I recall hating manual checks. Could never get it right lol.
lesta_smsc is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Game appears to use weird JSR instructions MethodGit Coders. General 15 18 March 2011 17:26
WTF !?! Some weird residents things ... Foul support.Hardware 29 18 February 2011 14:36
Weird physics game thing FromWithin Looking for a game name ? 30 26 November 2008 00:58
Retro Raider (great little PC game) s2325 Retrogaming General Discussion 1 26 July 2008 10:51
What a great game legionary Nostalgia & memories 7 05 July 2006 20:57

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:23.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Page generated in 0.18963 seconds with 12 queries